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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:18 PM Original message |
Sometimes the subject of taxing fast food comes up here on DU, but what is fast food? |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:19 PM Original message |
I think any place with a drive-through window would qualify. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
4. If McDonald's closed their drive-through window would they no longer be fast food? nt |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:24 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. By that definition, sure. n/t |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
5. So McDonalds could go back to the traditional walk up restaurant |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:24 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. By that definition, sure. n/t |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
105. You can get a salad from McDonald's |
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CBGLuthier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
1. Anything they (those who like this idea) don't eat. |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:25 PM Response to Reply #1 |
14. Bingo |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
2. Prepared meals assembled while you are waiting? Now, why can't there be healthy fast food joints? |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:25 PM Response to Reply #2 |
13. My wife prepares food while I wait, does this make her meals fast food? nt |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
20. lol. unbelievable |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:42 PM Response to Reply #20 |
38. If it's fried properly- never mind. Your post displays appalling ignorance. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:56 PM Response to Reply #38 |
50. your post displays appalling creationist like ignorance |
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Leftist Agitator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:38 PM Response to Reply #50 |
62. Actually, if fried properly, falafel has much less fat than a burger. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:55 PM Response to Reply #62 |
67. it depends |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:58 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. you could just apologize for being obnoxious. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:03 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. or i could explain that falafels, like burgers, are quite often greasy and fatty |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:20 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. thanks, if you're ever in my neck of the woods I'll treat you to a homemade burger or falafel |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:35 PM Response to Reply #75 |
83. deal |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:38 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. When I was macrobiotic, I learned to make Japanese pickles and still have my press |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 07:04 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. yea. lots of good enzymes |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:46 PM Response to Reply #2 |
42. We have a "healthy" fast food place here in Tampa called Evos. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:47 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. I hope they go national. And get a concession stand in public schools. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 11:07 PM Response to Reply #42 |
98. Those wraps look yummy. I love wraps. Sometimes, when I go out to eat I get a salad in a wrap. nt |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
72. Well, I wouldn't go for the falafels, but a chicken pita (whole wheat) is IMO... |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:47 AM Response to Reply #72 |
102. believe it or not, the jack in the box chicken fajita pita |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 06:38 PM Response to Reply #102 |
107. Oh I do believe it. :-) |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
3. Any "restaurant" where you pay for your food before getting it. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:24 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. If McDonald's started charging people after they ate would McDonald's no longer be fast food? nt |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:30 PM Response to Reply #9 |
23. It won't. It wouldn't be in their best interests. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:34 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. Wouldn't this depend on the tax? |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:36 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Did you mean to reply to the above poster? |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:38 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Crap, sorry. nt |
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zorahopkins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:24 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. Starbucks? |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:29 PM Original message |
and many of the food choices at starbux are far LESS healthy than many offered at |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
26. Starbucks is exactly as "fast food" as McD, BK, KFC etc. -nt |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:35 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. i agree. i just don't have a negative view of "fast food" |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:34 PM Response to Reply #10 |
29. If you go into such establishments and sit down... |
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zorahopkins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:39 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. Don't All But The Most Expensive Eating Establishments? |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:52 PM Response to Reply #36 |
48. "Expensive" eating establishments do tend to let you sit awhile. |
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zorahopkins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:57 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. So, We Tax The Places Where The Poorer People Go. |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:12 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. I never said that. The question was "what is fast food?" |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
73. So the local deli's I go to are fast food? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 09:32 PM Response to Reply #3 |
94. So buffets are fast food? |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
6. Hmmm... |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:29 PM Response to Reply #6 |
21. The hamburger joints in my town don't have zig-zag lines and they do offer printed menus. |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:32 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. You seem to be just making stuff up for the sake of arguing. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:36 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. I was given a paper menu as a liner in my plastic tray at McDonald's. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
8. Okay, here's what a search found- quick service of hot food with minimal table service |
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zorahopkins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:26 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Whole Foods? |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:43 PM Response to Reply #15 |
39. if they are prepared foods, then yes. Fast food. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:27 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. That describes the the health food store by my home. nt |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:43 PM Response to Reply #16 |
40. then they serve fast food. Quick service of hot, prepared food with minimal table service. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
11. Any food that is not served to you by a waitress/waiter who also took your order |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:27 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. Carl's Jr.** serves the food to your table if you're eating in the dining room |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:27 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. So all food you make yourself is fast food? nt |
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zorahopkins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:33 PM Response to Reply #11 |
28. "Waitress"???!! |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:37 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. geez... the "picky-police" are out in force today.. (I did edit) |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
17. Any restaurant that has a drive-thru window |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:31 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. So if McDonald's closes its drive through window it will no longer be a fast food restaurant? nt |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
22. I would suggest the tax for ingredients like HFCS and partially hydrogenated corn syrup. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:32 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. I think legally defining HFCS and hydrogenated corn syrup would be much easier than defining |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:39 PM Response to Reply #27 |
37. Yeah... right. The same people who 'define" assault weapons and any other "product". |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:45 PM Response to Reply #27 |
41. No, actually. I provided a Fast Food definition. It has been defined. I didn't just make it up. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:48 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Does "quick" have a legal definition? nt |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:19 PM Response to Reply #45 |
74. Junk Food, Fast Food: Definitions (still looking to see if time is defined anywhere) |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:29 PM Response to Reply #74 |
80. I think those are great dictionary definitions, but a legal definition may have to have numbers |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:33 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. I particularly enjoy this topic. BUT- talking about food can be tricky. People often feel |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:23 PM Response to Reply #45 |
76. Awesome, a mathematician did a paper on "How Fast Can Fast Food Be Served/" |
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DBoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
43. I'd tax based on fat content per serving |
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zorahopkins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:52 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Nuts Are Very Healthy |
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slampoet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:57 PM Response to Reply #43 |
52. So Bone Marrow and foie gras get taxed extra? How to you tax Marrow and not the meat around it ? |
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DBoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:47 PM Response to Reply #52 |
64. Foie gras is just yuppie fast food |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:59 PM Response to Reply #64 |
69. Foie gras is definitely not "fast" food. Preparation is a whole to do so doesn't fit the description |
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Kokonoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
47. Fast food is paid for in advance, before its made or served. |
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icymist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
49. How about anyone selling crap disguised as food? |
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zorahopkins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:03 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. "Cheap Food Served Fast" |
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icymist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:12 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Oh bull! You have to wonder what it is you're eating. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:26 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. I don't see raising taxes on food that poor people can afford as "improving their plight".. |
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zorahopkins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:49 PM Response to Reply #58 |
65. Exactly Right! |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
56. I think rather than trying to save us all... |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
57. Stop subsidizing corn and soy factory farms then we wouldn't have to tax... |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:36 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. An interesting idea. nt |
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bergie321 (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:28 PM Response to Reply #57 |
79. +1000 |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
59. I remember that in California a cupcake was junk food so taxed, a muffin was not. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:36 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Interesting. nt |
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Mother Smuckers (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:26 PM Response to Reply #59 |
78. So where do Twinkies fall in those descriptive/taxable niches? |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:37 PM Response to Reply #59 |
85. No food is taxed in California. |
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Brother Buzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 10:53 AM Response to Reply #85 |
106. In California, 'Hot' food from a market is taxed |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
63. I don't know that I would support taxing "fast food" but to define it |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:53 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. IMO, fast food is absolutely the wrong term. More like whole food vs. adulterated food |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:00 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. Yep, that's the heart of it. Plastic versus whole food. |
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Mother Smuckers (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
77. I'm pretty sure escargot isn't |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
81. This thread is an interesting look into people who want to raise taxes |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:35 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. I'm enjoying the attempt to define fast food and end up preferring the term "junk food". |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 07:29 PM Response to Reply #84 |
88. I never understood the hate for fast food here (by some anyway) |
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4 t 4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 07:42 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Maybe it should be considered fast food |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 07:49 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. That might be fair |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 08:08 PM Response to Reply #88 |
93. Because it is not food and it is making us sick. |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 11:16 PM Response to Reply #81 |
100. I would suggest cutting the subsidies for the corporate farming operations |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 10:27 AM Response to Reply #100 |
103. I agree. This chart is really amazing. |
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Sheepshank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
90. fast food definition from the health department |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
91. take out. nt. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
95. Anything cheap and unhealthy the food puritans don't like. |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
96. Hitting a deer at 60+ miles an hour on the interstate in a Winnebago? |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 11:04 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. Funny. nt |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
99. The HCR Bill takes a stab at defining it... |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
101. Stuff that fast food joints serve. You know, like Panera Bread, Soup or Salad... |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
104. Single-serve units and taste engineering are dominant characteristics of US fast food. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 06:41 PM Response to Reply #104 |
108. Great addition! This whole thread neglected to mention the throw-away packaging |
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