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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 09:41 AM Original message |
Could you prove your citizenship if stopped by a police officer? |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
1. My ID for work is always in my car. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
2. mostly i have drivers license with me. sometimes i dont. so sometimes... no i would not be |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 09:52 AM Response to Reply #2 |
11. Your DL is not proof of citizenship |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:03 AM Response to Reply #11 |
22. i understand. that is one of my question. will they accept dl per the law passed? nt |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:28 AM Response to Reply #22 |
34. Can't tell until the there is some implementation guidance |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:33 AM Response to Reply #34 |
39. and to answer the question, if dl does not suffice, i will never carry my passport even though i |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 11:09 AM Response to Reply #39 |
56. I carry the passport card, though I have never been asked for it as a passport |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 11:25 AM Response to Reply #56 |
63. i stopped flying because of their unconstitutional behavior. i will stop going to az for the same |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 05:25 PM Response to Reply #22 |
114. They will accept dl per the law passed as long as your White. |
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sybylla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:22 AM Response to Reply #11 |
32. Thanks to the real ID act, it is now |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:28 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. IIRC, not all states knucled under to the Real ID mandate |
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Naturalist111 (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:53 AM Response to Reply #32 |
51. That is correct sir. Due to the new Homeland Security Laws |
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csziggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 11:17 AM Response to Reply #51 |
60. Yes, last time I renewed my DL I had to show my birth certificate |
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Naturalist111 (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 11:19 AM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Understandable! |
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sweetloukillbot (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 12:05 PM Response to Reply #11 |
72. From what I understand... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 12:56 PM Response to Reply #11 |
88. Proof of citizenship is not necessary! |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
3. make a citizen's arrest of the officer if HE/SHE cannot show proof lol nt |
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wolfgangmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 11:17 AM Response to Reply #3 |
59. That's a good suggestion. ... |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
4. Most of the "prove your citizenship" is based upon how you look and speak. |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 09:50 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. It sure sounded like the Governor of Arizona has an accent. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 09:54 AM Response to Reply #4 |
13. of course. we understand that. i am wondering how they are going to incorporate blacks |
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wolfgangmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 11:26 AM Response to Reply #4 |
64. Let's be clear about this. |
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rfranklin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
6. Does a drivers license prove citizenship? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 09:54 AM Response to Reply #6 |
14. this is my question. is a dr license enough. nt |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 12:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
80. I wouldn't think so. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 12:55 PM Response to Reply #6 |
86. No, but it proves LEGAL RESIDENCE which is sufficient to prove you are not in the country illegally |
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CaliforniaPeggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
7. Nope, I couldn't. |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 09:52 AM Original message |
Yes |
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my2sense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
8. Yes, I have a pocket sized birth certificate |
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wolfgangmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 11:19 AM Response to Reply #8 |
61. That is not proof. |
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my2sense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:34 PM Response to Reply #61 |
118. Well - this is true...I'll just keep myself clear of the Ariz nuts |
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my2sense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:34 PM Response to Reply #61 |
119. Well - this is true...I'll just keep myself clear of the Ariz nuts |
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Saturday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
9. I can always prove who I am. nt |
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randr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
10. If I am in Arizona |
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angrycarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
12. I am a caucasian hillbilly with a southern accent. |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
15. I couldn't even do it at the DMV. nt |
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Stevenmarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
16. Yep, I have an Enhanced Drivers License |
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HipChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
17. I cannot prove my citizenship.. |
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Jensen (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
18. Birth Certificates do they work in Arizona from another State?? |
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Retrograde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:53 AM Response to Reply #18 |
52. well, we know Hawaii's are suspect |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 02:36 PM Response to Reply #18 |
103. A copy good enough or does it need to be an original with the raised print on the stamp? |
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madmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
19. I was born at home, my father delivered me, all I HAD was a piece of paper from |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:08 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Side topic, but one of my son's fellow engineers is a dark skinned |
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madmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:32 AM Response to Reply #23 |
38. I have no doubt, I have cousins who live in the western US that DO have the |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
20. ¿Qué? |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
21. Been around the world three times, never had a passport |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:17 AM Response to Reply #21 |
28. So.. You did all your travelling on our dime? |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:47 AM Response to Reply #28 |
47. Getting out's not the problem. |
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etherealtruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 12:12 PM Response to Reply #47 |
75. Tell me about it |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
24. I carry my driver's license, but that's about it |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
25. Documents that prove citizenship |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
26. Proof of citizenship is getting tougher all of the time... |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:34 AM Response to Reply #26 |
41. +1000000000 |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
27. Another troubling aspect: Carrying all your identity info in your car means |
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HipChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:31 AM Response to Reply #27 |
36. ID Theft |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 10:29 AM Response to Reply #27 |
126. Exactly why I never keep that stuff in my car. |
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nevergiveup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
29. I wonder if the Obama sticker on my car |
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titoresque (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 12:25 PM Response to Reply #29 |
78. I think I shall report you to the proper authorities |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 01:59 PM Response to Reply #78 |
91. Careful, too many authorities are actually improper nowadays. |
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NotThisTime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
30. living in Burlington VT I always carry my passport in case I decide to head into Canada |
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etherealtruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
31. I have en enhanced driver's license ... so yes |
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FarCenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
35. Most countries require non-citizens to produce their passport and/or residency permit |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 02:20 PM Response to Reply #35 |
95. But if a non-citizen is not carrying a passport or residency permit, |
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FarCenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 04:35 PM Response to Reply #95 |
108. The penalty would be decided after the identity and/or citizenship papers are produced |
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AnArmyVeteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
37. No... I would be sent to Mexico. But I hope them send me to Cancun so I can have a paid vacation... |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
40. Due to my cynical nature |
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LiberalAndProud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
42. No. I hope they deport me to Canada. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
43. If the standard is something like the I-9 employment verification then yes. |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
44. yes |
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amyrose2712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
45. Not always, and not if NJ DL doesn't count, although it should... |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
46. Nope. My state ID is expired and I don't carry around my birth certificate. |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:49 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. How do you write checks for retail stores or use a credit card? |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:53 AM Response to Reply #49 |
53. I don't have a checking account or credit cards. |
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mrs_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
48. i guess here in colorado |
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Naturalist111 (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
50. Yes indeed. Due to new laws I had to bring my new birth certificate |
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etherealtruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 11:03 AM Response to Reply #50 |
55. Not true in the State of Michigan |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
54. I carry my long-form birth certificate everywhere I go |
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dorkulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
57. I carry a cheeseburger Hot Pocket and a 44 oz. Mountain Dew everywhere I go. |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
58. Yes...but then I do carry my passport with me at all times. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
65. Not every person born in the U.S. HAS a passport. |
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HipChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 11:54 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. True...I'm always surprised by the number of Americans that have never been out of the country |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 12:43 PM Response to Reply #66 |
82. It costs money, and requires free time, to go out of the country. |
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hayu_lol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 11:59 AM Response to Reply #65 |
68. DL is sufficient here in Oregon since... |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 12:06 PM Response to Reply #65 |
73. That's very true. |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 12:09 AM Response to Reply #65 |
123. It's expired |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 10:03 AM Response to Reply #123 |
125. I figured that. The chances of ever crossing another border are |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
67. Some of us go jogging without our ID, just our house keys |
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Bettie (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
69. Nope. |
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AnArmyVeteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
70. I'm going to start a class in Arizona to show Hispanics how to 'LOOK AMERICAN'... |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 01:01 PM Response to Reply #70 |
89. Wait Wait.. What about their HAIR? |
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
71. I had to prove mine last summer to renew my driver's license |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
74. My all-American gut speaks for itself. nt |
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proud patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
76. Half my Family is in Arizona ... I'm pissed |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
77. Yes. |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
79. I've got a Social Security card and a birth certificate, but don't carry them with me. |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
81. Yes, by telling hin if he isn't ICE it's none of his business. |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
83. I actually have a citizenship card on me |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 02:32 PM Response to Reply #83 |
100. Where would I might get one of those things if you don't mind me asking? |
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saulmart (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
84. Probably not |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
85. Wrong question. My California Driver Licence is sufficient to prove legal residence in California |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
87. I'm pretty sure it's not the Irish immigrants they'll be targeting in Arizona |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
90. I couldn't |
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Brooklyns_Finest (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
92. Going to renew my passport today |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
93. Nothing past a driver's license, but I don't live in Arizona |
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SargeUNN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
94. I live in Arizona so I might find out |
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NaturalHigh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
96. Yes, I have a couple of forms of government-issued photo ID... |
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shedevil69taz (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
97. Self delete double post nt |
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shedevil69taz (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
98. Laminated copy of my social security card |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 02:31 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. carrying the SSN card was advised against when ID theft rampant |
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shedevil69taz (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 02:33 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. Its already on my military ID |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 02:35 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. I see. I remember when people use to have SSN printed on their checks |
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shedevil69taz (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 02:44 PM Response to Reply #102 |
105. Can't really avoid it |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
104. Can you prove it by showing your drivers license and SS card? |
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kevinbgoode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
106. What difference does it make anyway? |
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Sisaruus (703 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
107. All birth certificates that were issued in Puerto Rico will be invalid on 7/1 |
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Missy Vixen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
109. No |
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DeschutesRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
110. Up until now, I've just carried a DL; but even though I'm in OR, I am thinking |
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SoxFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
111. I don't look Hispanic |
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ck4829 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
112. I carry my SS card, so many interviews for a 2nd job |
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TheOther95Percent (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
113. Nope. Couldn't Prove It on the Spot. |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
115. No. All I carry is my DL and credit cards. The 9-11 attackers won, didn't they? |
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Mira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
116. The only way I could prove it is to take the framed naturalization certificate |
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Old Troop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
117. I'm sure my new England accent would fool them |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
120. I cannot, and I WILL not. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
121. I could prove my ability to tell him to fuck the hell off. |
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JoeyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-10 11:52 PM Response to Original message |
122. It depends on your skin tone and the cop's mood. |
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Cid_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 01:14 AM Response to Original message |
124. The O on my military ID identifies me as a US citizen... |
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a la izquierda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
127. Probably not |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-10 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
128. I don't even have a passport. Don't know where my birth certificate is. So...no. |
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