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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 02:50 PM Original message |
Let Ohio killer live, says surviving victim |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
1. One more life taken won't solve anything, |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
2. I oppose the death penalty, but equally importantly I oppose victims having any say |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 03:05 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. i like victims having their say |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 03:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. I believe their only say should be testimony of facts. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 03:15 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. not really |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 03:21 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. I, of course, disapprove of victims' families being permitted to provide any testimony |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 03:25 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. yes |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 03:34 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Glad you and I can disagree respectfully on the issue. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 03:37 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. i have seen personally the impact of crimes |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 03:31 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. They have a say, but the final decision is the governor's. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 03:32 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. i agree |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 06:03 PM Response to Reply #3 |
20. The Polanski case isn't a great example. |
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MicaelS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 03:10 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Your attitude is precisely why victim's rights movements and laws |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 03:16 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Nobody is 'more special' under the law than anyone else. Victims included. |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 03:34 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. So, everyone has a right to speak except victim? |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 03:36 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. The only people who need to speak at a trial are those who can provide facts |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 03:40 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. They don't speak at trial unless they are witnesses. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 06:02 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. also, let's remember crimes are about... wait for it... PEOPLE |
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MicaelS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 03:37 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. Please.... |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 05:57 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. fwiw, this is a great argument against hate crime laws |
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