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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 07:16 AM Original message |
Why the Left Has No Answer to the Right-Wing Lie Machine |
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zeemike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 07:23 AM Response to Original message |
1. Agreed. |
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CrisisPapers (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 12:41 AM Response to Reply #1 |
55. An Urgent and Angry Message to "No_Grits_Groceries" |
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dotymed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 06:10 AM Response to Reply #1 |
63. Correct. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 07:26 AM Response to Original message |
2. Don't forget how folks like Frank Rich, Bob Herbert and MoDo gave us GWBush. We eat our own. nt |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 07:40 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. They are upper tier commentators with, sometimes, a left leaning perspective ... |
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Berry Cool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 12:29 PM Response to Reply #7 |
27. No, they're not gods, but I do think they can still relate to us and are on our side. |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 07:30 AM Response to Original message |
3. the media is the enemy of liberals...enemy |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 07:31 AM Response to Original message |
4. Boy that hits the nail on the head. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 07:37 AM Response to Original message |
5. No, Left vs. Right is a false divide used by the Political Elites to take more of Americans' ... |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 07:41 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. +1000 +++ !!!, n/t |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 12:33 PM Response to Reply #5 |
28. +1000 we reify those labels/distinctions |
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Are_grits_groceries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 06:15 PM Response to Reply #5 |
34. Disagree with part of that. |
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Andronex (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:37 PM Response to Reply #5 |
52. +1000... |
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Kablooie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 07:38 AM Response to Original message |
6. Ya vol, mine hair. |
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bluethruandthru (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 07:42 AM Response to Original message |
9. We need to take a page from the repubs and do what they do. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:08 AM Response to Reply #9 |
26. I've always liked "borrow and spend conservatives" as an answer to "tax and spend" |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 07:44 AM Response to Original message |
10. K & R for later. |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 07:52 AM Response to Original message |
11. The Golden Rule... |
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Scuba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 07:58 AM Response to Original message |
12. This might help... |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 08:08 AM Response to Original message |
13. More of the fruits of media deregulation and consolidation |
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Bitwit1234 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 08:09 AM Response to Original message |
14. It is the Democrats fault for not passing laws to correct this |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 04:58 PM Response to Reply #14 |
33. "When a lie is told as the truth something should be done" |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 04:29 AM Response to Reply #14 |
60. Oh, yes, the lying Republicans are without responsibility to TELL the truth. |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
15. The Media follows the people. The Democrats have one over-arching |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 01:29 PM Response to Reply #15 |
31. The for-profit "news" media doesn't follow the people, at all. |
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FailureToCommunicate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
16. Even after reading the "remedies" in the article, the prospects seem bleak. Hope DU stays afloat for |
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ThomThom (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
17. true, so true |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
18. Also, because reason crumbles in the face of their sheer will to serve themselves |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
19. Commercial Progressive/Liberal Radio Is Not Viable |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 01:06 AM Response to Reply #19 |
56. In LA, we have Pacifica Radio. It's non-profit and not entirely |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
20. Segments of the Dem's profe$$ional class vehemently disavowed/trivialized the Right too often/long |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
21. There is a corporate media bias. |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
22. I'm afraid, we'll all just have to pass the hat and buy Comcast. |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
23. K&R |
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starroute (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
24. Some of this imbalance is at the think-tank/policy institute level |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 01:22 AM Response to Reply #24 |
57. Yes. We on the left don't have think-tanks subsidized by very |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
25. Anti-trust laws would solve a host of problems, with banks, with the media... |
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Stuart G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
29. K and R |
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newtothegame (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
30. We've had a product: Air America. It didn't sell. The question is WHY? |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 01:40 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Right wing talk/news is engaging because it's fear based. |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 06:21 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. Because... |
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William Z. Foster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 10:29 PM Response to Reply #30 |
45. a strong left wing program would work |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 10:57 PM Response to Reply #30 |
48. Radio's just not our thing. |
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William Z. Foster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
35. the media is an important factor, yes |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 08:43 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. "the pro-working class among us control us" |
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William Z. Foster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 09:24 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. that post didn't work, did it? |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 09:42 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. That makes much more sense. |
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William Z. Foster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 10:18 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. thanks |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
37. K&R |
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Historic NY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
41. Letting the lies go unanswered does nothing but cause festering ideas out in the fringe world... |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
43. If we can't buy a network, then every motherfucker here needs to learn the art of freeway blogging. |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 01:31 AM Response to Reply #43 |
58. I don't understand the concept and you're not helping. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 09:10 AM Response to Reply #58 |
66. You new to DU? and No not graffiti. I believe that is destructive. |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 12:54 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. I've been hear one year less than you, and this is the first I've heard |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 08:33 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Nothing but facts on a blog madam. |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
44. We don't have an answer |
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William Z. Foster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:36 PM Response to Reply #44 |
51. we don't have a message |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
46. the right-wing media all more or less consider themselves part of the same team as |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 04:30 AM Response to Reply #46 |
61. Rich sides with rich. It's pretty simple. |
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whereaminow (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 10:48 PM Response to Original message |
47. If you wanna win people over, |
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ErikJ (480 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
49. BUMPERSTICKERS |
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Kitty Herder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
50. K&R |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:41 PM Response to Original message |
53. Yes. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 12:14 AM Response to Original message |
54. K&R, nice article nt |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 04:28 AM Response to Original message |
59. And when were the media and citizenry MOST involved in speaking truth to power? When we Boomers |
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chillspike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 04:42 AM Response to Original message |
62. I say this is a good thing |
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DailyGrind51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 06:46 AM Response to Original message |
64. Greg Burns, on Chicago's WTTW news program "Chicago Tonight" made the same observation! |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 08:51 AM Response to Original message |
65. The First Step toward a Dictatorship is control o f the News Media. |
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