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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 10:52 AM Original message |
Some folks are completely invested in the collapse of the economy |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
1. Not me. Save the system at any cost. I love capitalism |
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foxfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:02 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. "It puts the capitalist lotion on its skin." |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:03 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Nice |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:08 AM Response to Reply #3 |
9. You realize I don't consider the United States |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:15 AM Response to Reply #9 |
17. Nonetheless, the means of production are owned privately |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:10 AM Response to Reply #1 |
12. Arrgh! |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:14 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Its as creepy as the state of the economy and society |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:19 AM Response to Reply #14 |
23. Excellent Points. |
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cottonseed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:37 AM Response to Reply #14 |
36. says the internet poster fattened up by American capitalism |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:52 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. funny |
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SocialistLez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
2. You mean Wall Street? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:06 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. No, HERE on DU |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 12:45 PM Response to Reply #6 |
49. So is this like a "call-out"? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
5. No, IMO, it's more that our government has outright lied to us about so many issues, |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
7. Well I know goldman sachs is betting on the collapse of california. nt |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:15 AM Response to Reply #7 |
16. Yes, and those derivatives should be |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
8. And a few are deeply invested in the status quo. Is any of this news? nt |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:09 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. You expect a glorious revolution in the United States? |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:27 AM Response to Reply #11 |
26. Nope. I'm expecting a whimpering collapse. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:28 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. I like to live in reality |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:32 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Your little slice of SoCal isn't reality. I invite you to visit us here in Detroit. nt |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:35 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Yeah my little slice is part of a local, regional state and national |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
10. It doesn't make a damned bit of difference what I want or what I think |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:11 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Yeah but soem folks ARE invested in that |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:15 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. What the powerless 'want' is beside the point, other than for the sake of argument |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:17 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. You intend to stop buying food to eat? |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
15. The economy is like air. If it crashes we all exhale ourselves to death... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:18 AM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Exactly |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:33 AM Response to Reply #15 |
32. No, the super-rich merely change the locks on their gated communities ... |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:53 AM Response to Reply #32 |
40. None of the We I know are members of the super rich... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 12:14 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Then they need to join us little-people and go after the super-rich before they |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 12:52 PM Response to Reply #42 |
50. And do what. What forms of legislation will pass that will go after... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 01:02 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Non-millionaires. |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
20. "Some folks" are hopin' we lose the War on Terra! |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:19 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Nah I am just pointing out that the two extremes |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:20 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. A few oddballs, certainly. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:29 AM Response to Reply #22 |
29. There's no "Right vs. Left" struggle only power mad political rulers who use this ruse to pit ... |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:34 AM Response to Reply #22 |
33. Yes I hear "the left" is also rooting for the onset of global warming and the continued flow of oil |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:36 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. On the economy both agree |
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AnArmyVeteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
25. Invest in Failure = Get Rich... Invest in Success = Lose Everything |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:27 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Here is a hint |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:30 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. It's about to get much worse. They haven't capped that oil geyser yet. eom |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:45 AM Response to Reply #27 |
38. People who think such an event is a good thing do not know what they are asking for... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 12:21 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. We have examples of this all the time |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 12:43 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. they envision some kind of romantic, violent revolution against the wealthy, i suppose. the reality |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 01:24 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. With one caveat... the very rich will move to another country |
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AnArmyVeteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 10:55 PM Response to Reply #52 |
70. The money the rich have is worthless if not for the poor doting on them constantly... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:02 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Two points on this |
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AnArmyVeteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:44 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. You missed the entire intent of my post. What good would wealth do without the poor? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 12:40 AM Response to Reply #72 |
74. It is a comedy |
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AnArmyVeteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 02:10 AM Response to Reply #74 |
75. What comedy? The movie I wrote about isn't a comedy. What movie are you thinking of? |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 12:41 PM Response to Reply #38 |
47. they have some bullshit, romanticized view of a Depression. never mind that they're so damn idiotic |
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William Z. Foster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 09:14 PM Response to Reply #47 |
80. no, not quite |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 10:17 PM Response to Reply #80 |
86. Ah that explains it |
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William Z. Foster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 10:27 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. right |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 10:36 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. Sadly there are things to say about Americans |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 10:22 PM Response to Reply #27 |
88. Is gotten a word? |
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Swede (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
37. Some immediately question any good news and trumpet the bad. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 12:01 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. 'xactly, small minority but indeed |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 12:15 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. I was against it last time and I will be again: No more Bankster Welfare funds. |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 12:31 PM Response to Reply #37 |
46. And some people question what is being spoon fed to them |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 01:27 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. You expect American Idol, brand buying |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
44. I'm looking around, and I'm not seeing any sign of recover. I don't think it's happening. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
54. And some are completely invested in denying that a great many people are hurting a great deal.. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 03:14 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Understanding the economy does not mean you also deny |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 04:03 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Eh.. I wouldn't be so sure.. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 09:59 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Yes... it is called an economic cycle |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 10:11 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. I'm not aware of any sixty year or longer economic cycles.. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 10:13 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. No, what I am saying is that this is part of the economic cycle |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 10:19 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. But I was talking about the sixty year rise in long term unemployment.. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 10:27 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Sixty? You could make a case for since Reagan |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 10:46 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. The graph is of long term unemployment as a percentage of total unemployment.. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 10:52 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. Agreed on NAFTA et al |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 10:27 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. Oh for crying out loud. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 10:48 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. I am not saying what you are living is not real |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 10:16 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Actually I'd say BOTH extremes |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 10:49 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. Because their egos are now invested in the position. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-10 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
68. I agree |
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William Z. Foster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 12:29 AM Response to Original message |
73. not logical |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-10 10:33 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. if you think a great depression will bring what you think it will bring |
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William Z. Foster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 04:05 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. well, I tried |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 08:30 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Utter economic collapse will not lead to what you believe it will |
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William Z. Foster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 09:19 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. strawman |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 09:22 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. Read the OP... if you are not advocating utter economic |
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William Z. Foster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 09:44 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. who? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 10:06 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Start readying this place more closely |
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William Z. Foster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 10:13 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. ok |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 10:19 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. The Nazis were but one presentation of Fascism |
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William Z. Foster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 10:25 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. I know Germany is but one example |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 10:27 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. When corporations write the laws |
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William Z. Foster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 10:43 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. familiar with the 14 points, yes |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 10:50 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. Benito Mussolini gave this definition |
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William Z. Foster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 11:10 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. yeah |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 11:15 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. As I said, the simple defition is when Corporations start |
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William Z. Foster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 11:18 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. ok |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 11:24 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. Bingo |
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William Z. Foster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 11:31 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. thanks |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 11:43 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. The corporate board rooms |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-09-10 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
79. The doomers are full of it - and were all along |
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