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Hepburn
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Thu May-20-10 08:40 AM Original message |
Anyone who thinks that Rand Paul is not a racist... |
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bluestateguy
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Thu May-20-10 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
1. Looks like a campaign ad to me |
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Hepburn
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Thu May-20-10 08:43 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Good question... |
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ecstatic
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Thu May-20-10 01:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
93. I think so. Both dem candidates got more votes than Rand Paul |
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WeDidIt
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Thu May-20-10 08:51 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. You might see the hghest turn out of African Americans in history |
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Hepburn
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Thu May-20-10 08:59 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Oh, I love it!!! |
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mmonk
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Thu May-20-10 09:09 AM Response to Reply #4 |
15. I agree. Since Paul is nationalizing the Kentucky race, I really think |
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bluestateguy
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Thu May-20-10 09:57 AM Response to Reply #4 |
26. And does that ad up to much in Kentucky? |
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WeDidIt
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Thu May-20-10 12:43 PM Response to Reply #26 |
81. That race went national during the primaries |
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DrDan
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Thu May-20-10 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
3. not trying to start a war-of-words here - just curious |
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bullwinkle428
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Thu May-20-10 08:55 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. If I owned a restaurant, I'd still be more than happy to take their |
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Hepburn
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Thu May-20-10 08:57 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Yes... |
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Caliman73
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Thu May-20-10 02:36 PM Response to Reply #3 |
119. Businesses already have that right. |
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DrDan
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Thu May-20-10 03:01 PM Response to Reply #119 |
121. well . . . I said it facetiously of course |
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Caliman73
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Thu May-20-10 03:44 PM Response to Reply #121 |
123. Ha ha ha.. |
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Warren Stupidity
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Fri May-21-10 06:43 AM Response to Reply #119 |
146. 'republican' is not a protected class |
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el_bryanto
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Thu May-20-10 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
5. He is libertarian isn't he? |
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DrDan
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Thu May-20-10 08:58 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. true - but he still must recognize the legitimacy of the Civil Rights Act |
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stray cat
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Thu May-20-10 09:11 AM Response to Reply #9 |
16. He does for government but not for private businessess and households |
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el_bryanto
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Thu May-20-10 09:19 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Yep. |
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DrDan
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Thu May-20-10 09:25 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. probably depends on the locale - openly racist restaurants may flourish in some locations |
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el_bryanto
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Thu May-20-10 09:29 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. That could be. A libertarians faith in market forces is a little naive. n/t |
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DrDan
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Thu May-20-10 09:24 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. he must for "public accomodation" - that's the law, isn't it? |
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Thu May-20-10 10:00 AM Response to Reply #16 |
28. substitute "own slaves" for "refuse to serve black people" THEN tell me it's libertarian all the way |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag
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Thu May-20-10 10:55 AM Response to Reply #5 |
40. Yes. And that's why such beliefs are toxic. -nt |
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el_bryanto
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Thu May-20-10 11:21 AM Response to Reply #40 |
45. Libertarianism you mean? n/t |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag
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Thu May-20-10 11:31 AM Response to Reply #45 |
56. Yes. A pipe-dreamish, poorly thought-out, one-way road to Hell. |
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KharmaTrain
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Thu May-20-10 08:54 AM Response to Original message |
6. To The Great Unhinged, He's Singing Their Song... |
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SocialistLez
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Thu May-20-10 09:08 AM Response to Reply #6 |
14. +1 NT |
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EFerrari
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Thu May-20-10 10:48 AM Response to Reply #6 |
39. +2 |
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political_Dem
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Thu May-20-10 12:57 PM Response to Reply #6 |
89. +10000 Bravo. This is succinctly the point. |
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BootinUp
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Thu May-20-10 09:03 AM Response to Original message |
11. So the Washington Post's Weigel is defending the position, how nice. |
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Gidney N Cloyd
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Thu May-20-10 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
12. This will just open the door. Expect even more brazen comments from his admirers. |
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stray cat
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Thu May-20-10 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
13. He is a very consistent Libertarian fighting for your right to not hire |
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BootinUp
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Thu May-20-10 09:15 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. He avoided answering the direct questions, in that way he was most consistent |
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GoneOffShore
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Thu May-20-10 09:46 AM Response to Reply #13 |
25. Sorry - he may be consistent, but I doubt that he's honest. |
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redqueen
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Thu May-20-10 10:00 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. He's not even consistent FFS... he's anti-choice. |
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BootinUp
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Thu May-20-10 10:34 AM Response to Reply #27 |
35. It seems some posters today |
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redqueen
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Thu May-20-10 10:47 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. I know right? LIke it's admirable... |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag
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Thu May-20-10 11:23 AM Response to Reply #38 |
50. "He has the courage of his convictions!" |
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donco6
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Thu May-20-10 08:36 PM Response to Reply #35 |
134. There are more here than you might think. |
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Fri May-21-10 12:57 PM Response to Reply #35 |
152. I'll say I prefer it to triangulation |
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krabigirl
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Thu May-20-10 12:40 PM Response to Reply #27 |
78. Yes. Some libertarians are pro choice, others are not. He is the not kind unfortunately. |
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redqueen
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Thu May-20-10 12:48 PM Response to Reply #78 |
85. Yes, like Paul, some of them aren't so consistently Libertarian. (nt) |
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MellowDem
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Thu May-20-10 11:51 PM Response to Reply #27 |
138. Many anti-choice libertarians... |
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Fri May-21-10 12:50 PM Response to Reply #27 |
151. People like him because he's anti-war and anti-corporate. Well, his dad is. |
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katandmoon
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Thu May-20-10 11:20 AM Response to Reply #13 |
44. But he is afraid to outright state that position. He may be consistent but he's a coward. |
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Thu May-20-10 11:22 AM Response to Reply #13 |
47. He is a very consistent racist, fighting for the right to be racist. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag
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Thu May-20-10 11:59 AM Response to Reply #47 |
68. And so are his supporters. -nt |
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LanternWaste
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Thu May-20-10 01:00 PM Response to Reply #13 |
90. honesty and consistency do not require... |
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Ikonoklast
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Thu May-20-10 06:03 PM Response to Reply #13 |
125. "your privately owned store" needs public customers. |
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Warren Stupidity
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Fri May-21-10 06:51 AM Response to Reply #13 |
147. protected classes: race, color, religion, sex or national origin |
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Quantess
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Fri May-21-10 02:05 PM Response to Reply #13 |
163. Not consistent at all! |
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Recursion
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Thu May-20-10 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
17. Umm |
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BootinUp
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Thu May-20-10 09:26 AM Response to Reply #17 |
22. allowing the exclusion of persons from a market based on race |
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Javaman
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Thu May-20-10 10:14 AM Response to Reply #17 |
34. like I said in another thread... |
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sinkingfeeling
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Thu May-20-10 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
24. He may not be a racist on a personal level, however, he is a libertarian who doesn't think the |
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AngryAmish
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Thu May-20-10 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
29. He is not a racist. |
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spanone
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Thu May-20-10 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
30. randy the racist |
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scrinmaster
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Thu May-20-10 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
31. If you support a Nazi's or a KKK's right to free speech, does that make you a Nazi or KKK member? |
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BootinUp
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Thu May-20-10 10:11 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. why do you seem to accept his free speech argument? |
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Hepburn
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Thu May-20-10 10:45 AM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Hate to pee on your parade... |
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cark
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Thu May-20-10 11:22 AM Response to Reply #36 |
46. U missed the point. |
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Hepburn
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Thu May-20-10 11:30 AM Response to Reply #46 |
55. I wish there were intelligent responses... |
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cark
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Thu May-20-10 11:45 AM Response to Reply #55 |
63. My point is your OP |
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Hepburn
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Thu May-20-10 02:59 PM Response to Reply #63 |
120. Maybe if I type slowly, you will get the point: |
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hfojvt
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Fri May-21-10 01:39 PM Response to Reply #120 |
160. which came first though |
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MicaelS
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Thu May-20-10 12:19 PM Response to Reply #46 |
71. You want an honest debate? |
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redqueen
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Thu May-20-10 12:24 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. Oh so very well said. |
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calimary
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Thu May-20-10 03:16 PM Response to Reply #71 |
122. Excellent points! Thank you! |
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Deep13
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Thu May-20-10 01:25 PM Response to Reply #46 |
102. It doesn't matter what his personal beliefs are if he won't vote... |
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rasputin1952
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Thu May-20-10 06:59 PM Response to Reply #46 |
128. Well, you make a point about people saying dumb, ignorant stuff |
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political_Dem
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Thu May-20-10 01:10 PM Response to Reply #36 |
96. That hits the nail on the head. Thank you very much for saying that. |
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Thu May-20-10 11:23 AM Response to Reply #31 |
49. If you support a Nazi's right to gas Jews or a KKK's right to lynch black people... |
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BootinUp
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Thu May-20-10 05:07 PM Response to Reply #49 |
124. rofl. nt |
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charlesg
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Thu May-20-10 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
32. Does Rand Paul accept new black patients on Medicare/Medicaid? |
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Hepburn
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Thu May-20-10 10:46 AM Response to Reply #32 |
37. Only if the money is the right color... |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag
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Thu May-20-10 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
41. OK. Anyone who carries water for this psycho goes to my shit list instantly. With one exception: |
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PavePusher
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Thu May-20-10 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
42. Gosh, the disingenuousness around here is astonishing. |
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katandmoon
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Thu May-20-10 11:23 AM Response to Reply #42 |
48. So you are equating prohibiting gun toting patrons with prohibiting black patrons? Yes? |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag
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Thu May-20-10 11:24 AM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Nah, he probably thinks only the former is inadmissible. |
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PavePusher
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Thu May-20-10 12:41 PM Response to Reply #48 |
79. I am equating two Civil Rights. |
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Hepburn
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Thu May-20-10 11:31 AM Response to Reply #42 |
57. So is the stupidity. Your point? n/t |
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EFerrari
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Thu May-20-10 11:36 AM Response to Reply #42 |
60. There's goes another irony meter. |
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msanthrope
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Thu May-20-10 11:44 AM Response to Reply #42 |
62. Guess what? Private property owners DON'T get to "make any rule they want." |
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Thu May-20-10 11:50 AM Response to Reply #62 |
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Ichingcarpenter
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Thu May-20-10 12:03 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. You want orange juice and coffee with your maple syrup and waffles? |
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msanthrope
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Thu May-20-10 12:14 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. Go read Katzenbach. |
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Thu May-20-10 02:15 PM Response to Reply #70 |
118. Katzenback |
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Thu May-20-10 06:11 PM Response to Reply #118 |
126. Deleted message |
PavePusher
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Thu May-20-10 12:44 PM Response to Reply #62 |
84. I am not endorsing discrimination... |
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Thu May-20-10 01:04 PM Response to Reply #84 |
91. His line of thinking greatly enhances racism and others. |
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msanthrope
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Thu May-20-10 06:20 PM Response to Reply #84 |
127. Let me tell you what I get about you..... |
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PavePusher
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Thu May-20-10 07:45 PM Response to Reply #127 |
129. You don't seem to understand the difference in public and private venues. |
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msanthrope
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Thu May-20-10 07:59 PM Response to Reply #129 |
132. You don't seem to understand what a 'public accomodation' is. |
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Thu May-20-10 12:53 PM Response to Reply #62 |
88. "Facts?! Noooo, I'm mellllllllllltiiiiiiiiiiiing!" |
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BootinUp
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Thu May-20-10 01:22 PM Response to Reply #42 |
100. Conclusions? What about fucking history? |
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Deep13
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Thu May-20-10 01:33 PM Response to Reply #42 |
105. "First, private property owners can make any rule they want." |
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PavePusher
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Thu May-20-10 07:48 PM Response to Reply #105 |
130. Build a few more strawmen. |
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Deep13
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Fri May-21-10 07:43 AM Response to Reply #130 |
148. Please explain. Or are flippant remarks all you have in your quiver? nt |
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Warren Stupidity
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Fri May-21-10 10:01 AM Response to Reply #42 |
149. "First, private property owners can make any rule they want" - nope. |
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Ichingcarpenter
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Thu May-20-10 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
43. His top aide had to quit when his racist website was discovered |
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redqueen
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Thu May-20-10 11:34 AM Response to Reply #43 |
58. ... |
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PavePusher
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Thu May-20-10 11:32 PM Response to Reply #43 |
136. Link? n/t |
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Ichingcarpenter
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Fri May-21-10 12:47 AM Response to Reply #136 |
139. 'Rand Paul Top Aide Quits Over MySpace Racism' |
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Thu May-20-10 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
52. Anyone that thinks Rand Paul is not a racist... |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag
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Thu May-20-10 11:27 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Anyone that PRETENDS TO think Rand Paul is not a racist... |
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Thu May-20-10 11:28 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Good point. |
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krabigirl
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Thu May-20-10 12:41 PM Response to Reply #52 |
80. Really? No i don't think he is racist...just very naive and has crappy ideas. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup
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Thu May-20-10 12:51 PM Response to Reply #80 |
87. I'm sorry... |
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Fri May-21-10 01:41 PM Response to Reply #87 |
161. Not unclear, just wrong |
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KamaAina
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Thu May-20-10 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
59. He held his victory party at a fancy country club |
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Hepburn
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Thu May-20-10 11:37 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Some times.... |
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EFerrari
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Thu May-20-10 12:37 PM Response to Reply #59 |
76. LOL. |
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Thu May-20-10 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
64. sorry, that's not really fair. it is not against the law to be a racist asshole. |
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Thu May-20-10 01:09 PM Response to Reply #64 |
95. cting upon those beliefs outside of the confines of the law... |
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Thu May-20-10 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
65. I'm not convinced that he personally is racist (although he may be, I just don't know) |
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EFerrari
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Thu May-20-10 11:52 AM Response to Reply #65 |
67. No, this is what modern racists sound like in public. |
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msanthrope
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Thu May-20-10 12:22 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. You forgot "But my (insert relationship) is (insert group)!" n/t |
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EFerrari
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Thu May-20-10 01:05 PM Response to Reply #73 |
92. I've been giving people this link to a Laura Flander's segment on white power |
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msanthrope
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Thu May-20-10 01:21 PM Response to Reply #92 |
99. Great link! Thank you! n/t |
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EFerrari
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Thu May-20-10 01:34 PM Response to Reply #99 |
106. That film "White Power USA" is also on youtube |
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Thu May-20-10 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
72. Clyburn on Andrea Mitchell now |
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Thu May-20-10 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
75. Paul is an unabashed Libertarian, this is what untethered Libertarianism looks & sounds like... |
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Thu May-20-10 12:43 PM Response to Reply #75 |
82. Not all libertarians are like that. There are left libertarians, moderate ones, and so on. |
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redqueen
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Thu May-20-10 12:49 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. Yes, and they're all idiot libertarians, moron libertarians, etc. |
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bridgit
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Thu May-20-10 01:16 PM Response to Reply #82 |
98. As a political party my husband canvassed for them when they started up in the 70's |
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krabigirl
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Thu May-20-10 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
77. He is not a racist..he is a rw libertarian. I don't agree with him but i don't think he is racist. |
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Thu May-20-10 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
83. Chip off the old block |
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Decoy of Fenris
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Thu May-20-10 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
94. All right, let's jump in, headfirst, and see what happens. |
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redqueen
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Thu May-20-10 01:10 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. Did you read the thread? |
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Decoy of Fenris
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Thu May-20-10 01:39 PM Response to Reply #97 |
107. Aye, I did. |
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NNN0LHI
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Thu May-20-10 01:23 PM Response to Reply #94 |
101. If you had a business as described it would be perfectly fine to hang a sign that read No Loitering |
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Decoy of Fenris
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Thu May-20-10 01:43 PM Response to Reply #101 |
108. Aye, I understand that. What I'm getting at, though |
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redqueen
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Thu May-20-10 01:46 PM Response to Reply #108 |
110. So he was forced to expose the idiocy of Libertarian philosophy. |
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Decoy of Fenris
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Thu May-20-10 01:49 PM Response to Reply #110 |
112. Agreed unconditionally. |
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redqueen
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Thu May-20-10 02:00 PM Response to Reply #112 |
115. Here's how I see it: |
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Decoy of Fenris
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Thu May-20-10 02:06 PM Response to Reply #115 |
116. ... Hm. |
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EFerrari
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Thu May-20-10 01:29 PM Response to Reply #94 |
103. No, he doesn't. Racial discrimination is illegal in the United States. |
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Thu May-20-10 01:46 PM Response to Reply #103 |
109. Granted. |
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Thu May-20-10 01:59 PM Response to Reply #109 |
114. But, that is exactly what this POS is doing: putting it up for debate. |
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Thu May-20-10 02:08 PM Response to Reply #114 |
117. "An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded." |
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Fri May-21-10 01:38 PM Response to Reply #103 |
159. And he thinks making it illegal hasn't stopped it |
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Thu May-20-10 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
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Thu May-20-10 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
111. Libertarian logic to its bitter end- we should all be free to be racist as we want to be |
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Thu May-20-10 07:50 PM Response to Reply #111 |
131. That's Reaganism 101: making people comfortable with their prejudices again. |
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Thu May-20-10 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
113. Geez Louise |
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Thu May-20-10 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
133. A billboard I'd like to see.... (pic) |
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Thu May-20-10 09:46 PM Response to Reply #133 |
135. OMG.... |
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Fri May-21-10 01:05 PM Response to Reply #133 |
154. Please get somebody to put that up in Kentucky. Please. |
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Thu May-20-10 11:47 PM Response to Original message |
137. No, just smart/logical... |
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Fri May-21-10 01:02 AM Response to Reply #137 |
140. And like clockwork there are people who come out to declare that someone isn't a racist. |
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Fri May-21-10 01:27 AM Response to Reply #140 |
141. And like clockwork you're here... |
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Fri May-21-10 01:30 PM Response to Reply #141 |
157. The only person making shit up is you. As per usual you make excuses while |
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Fri May-21-10 07:36 PM Response to Reply #157 |
165. It's pretty simple... |
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Fri May-21-10 01:29 AM Response to Original message |
142. Not racist,just self serving,to each his own means every man for himself in libertarian talk. |
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Fri May-21-10 01:30 AM Response to Original message |
143. He looks different without his white hood on. I almost didn't recognize him... |
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Fri May-21-10 01:36 AM Response to Original message |
144. still hoping the IS a hell -n/t |
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Fri May-21-10 01:47 AM Response to Original message |
145. I can't believe registered DUers are defending Rand Paul and his viewpoint. |
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Fri May-21-10 12:42 PM Response to Reply #145 |
150. People mean different things by "racist" |
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Fri May-21-10 01:27 PM Response to Reply #150 |
156. Maybe he isn't racist, but it is a big red flag. He supports allowing racism, |
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Fri May-21-10 01:33 PM Response to Reply #156 |
158. If he's like most libertarians I know, he's thought it through |
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Fri May-21-10 02:02 PM Response to Reply #158 |
162. Funny how he's libertarian when it comes to the Civil Rights Act and Americans with Disabilities Act |
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Fri May-21-10 02:15 PM Response to Reply #162 |
164. Yeah, he's less consistent than his dad |
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Fri May-21-10 12:58 PM Response to Reply #145 |
153. Yeap, they include private hospitals in that mix too because...like Paul...they haven't thuoght |
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Fri May-21-10 01:21 PM Response to Reply #153 |
155. That's why it's important there are people like Rachel Maddow |
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Sat May-22-10 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
166. Rachel Maddow Show: NY Times get Rand Paul quote wrong |
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