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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 06:44 PM Original message |
The left is no longer the fringe. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
1. K & R nt |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
2. Why do you think the DLC'ers are so desperate |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 06:46 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I defy you to point to a single member of the DLC that posts here. n/t |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 06:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. I defy you to point to a single member of the RNC that posts here |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 06:53 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. I cannot do that. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 06:58 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. It is against DU rules to do what you ask |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 07:04 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Since when is it against the rules to show a guy who claims to be a member of the DLC? |
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Lint Head (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 07:43 PM Response to Reply #6 |
17. I can point to a lot of tombstones for trolls. |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 07:46 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Are you trying to claim they're all members of the DLC? |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 07:40 PM Response to Reply #3 |
16. We have DLC fans here. Blessedly few |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 07:45 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Could you point out one? |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 07:46 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. LOL! |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 07:54 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. I don't keep up with them |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 07:55 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. They must be mighty rare |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 04:25 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. As I said, blessedly rare |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:11 PM Response to Reply #22 |
67. Pssst... pssst.... don't worry, your "secret" is safe. *wink* *wink* |
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hulka38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:50 PM Response to Reply #22 |
78. Ain't nobody here but us chickens. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 06:27 PM Response to Reply #22 |
86. gee, I wonder why |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:43 PM Response to Reply #18 |
74. Is this some kind of joke? |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 11:43 AM Response to Reply #16 |
52. DLC's mantra is believe what we say, not what you see and hear, |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:44 PM Response to Reply #52 |
75. Right. And by that standard, there are at least a few of them here... |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 04:47 AM Response to Reply #3 |
27. wow--that took all of 1 minute! why so concerned? |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 08:26 AM Response to Reply #27 |
33. Not really. |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 09:23 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. gee, "something" really put him on the defensive--I wonder what that was? |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 09:27 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Considering he's to the right of the DLC, I dunno. |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 09:37 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. gee, that's a real liberal policy |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 11:37 AM Response to Reply #40 |
51. Yeah, you're not really liberal if you can't bend your principles enough to get people elected. |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:46 PM Response to Reply #38 |
76. That's it I think. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 08:28 AM Response to Reply #3 |
35. wyldwolf and freddie stubbs. that i believe, is the mighty DLC contingent on DU. |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 09:27 AM Response to Reply #35 |
39. So it's okay to name names now? |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 10:21 AM Response to Reply #39 |
46. usually it's against the rules but those two guys are proud DLCers, i doubt they'd get pissed if |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 09:38 AM Response to Reply #35 |
41. I think so - the latter I have had on ignore for ages. |
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Missy Vixen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 11:44 AM Response to Reply #3 |
53. Calling out other DU'ers is against the rules, |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
4. Now if we could just get a progressive president |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 07:14 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. That's my hope as well. nt |
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socialist_n_TN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 10:13 AM Response to Reply #4 |
45. That's how it's going to have to happen |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
5. Specifically, which candidates are you talking about? |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 07:13 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Romanoff in Co. Sestak. I think Bill Halter will win by 10 points in the run-off. |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 07:14 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Halter and Sestak aren't progressives though. |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:31 PM Response to Reply #13 |
73. yeah... |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:47 PM Response to Reply #13 |
77. Way more liberal than the DLC, however. nt. |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:14 PM Response to Reply #12 |
68. I would not consider Sestak progressive in the least. |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:14 PM Response to Reply #12 |
69. Du-du-dupe |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 04:59 AM Response to Reply #5 |
29. also Winograd vs Harman |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:10 PM Response to Reply #29 |
62. Great post. Thanks for the link. Kickin a few bucks Winograd's way. nt |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
8. This is why the 'moderate centrists' are in full panic mode |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 08:37 PM Response to Reply #8 |
24. Yep. Centrists and rightwingers/neocons all seem very vulnerable. |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:19 PM Response to Reply #24 |
70. I think centrists are more vulnerable, since the righties will always have their nutjob base |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
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madinmaryland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
15. You would not know that if you watch the M$M. Yeah, they are whacking |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
23. Well, I've had things with fringes and usually they are on more than one side. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
25. We'll still be "the fringe" -- even if we have the support of 80% of the voting public -- until |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 08:24 AM Response to Reply #25 |
32. We will be the "fringe" as long as the Corporatist System is not yet overthrown. |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 01:44 PM Response to Reply #32 |
61. Here's to hoping talk of a 28th Amendment can get some traction. I think Dems should run on it. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 04:52 AM Response to Original message |
28. Haven't been the fringe- ot even close to it for a long time |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 07:56 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Yep- Lack of organization hasn't helped our side but I think that's starting to change. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 08:09 AM Response to Original message |
31. Don't forget Mark Dayton for MN Governor. |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 08:26 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. F'n awesome. I'll kick a few bucks Dayton's way as a former Minnesotan. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 08:32 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. I loved him as a Senator. |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 10:08 AM Response to Reply #36 |
43. Yep and the arrest of Neocon Gramm's son for weed posession... |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:28 PM Response to Reply #43 |
63. OMG, I completely FORGOT about that! Thanks! |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:45 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. My pleasure. It's been years since that arrest. I had to dig it from the.. |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 10:10 AM Response to Reply #36 |
44. I forgot to add.. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
42. Last weekend, I spoke with a retired friend of mine who is a lifelong Democrat, |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 11:06 AM Response to Reply #42 |
47. IMO the only way Obama loses 2012 is if he has the left in a complete outrage. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 11:58 AM Response to Reply #47 |
55. Ideally, I'm sure we all hope that he would move to the left. |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 01:16 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. Yep. |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:29 PM Response to Reply #60 |
72. Obama will be re-elected in 2012 |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 06:13 PM Response to Reply #72 |
82. He will with republican help. |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
48. The sooner DLC is nothing more than an ugly memory, the better. |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 11:13 AM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Yep- They tried to turn our party Repub-lite and succeeded for quite some time. |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
49. Our newest Senator from Oregon, Jeff Merkley, kicks ass. |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 11:49 AM Response to Reply #49 |
54. Thanks for adding. Sen Merkley is one of the good guys no doubt! |
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lib2DaBone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
56. Right you are... |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 12:51 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Thanks lib! |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
57. Progressives are not the left |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 12:39 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. I fully agree. But, we are a large part of the left in America. |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
64. The voters can speak but with elections in the hands of e-voting companies |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:48 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Bring back hand counted paper ballots! We need election reform as bad as any reform right now. |
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csziggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 08:29 PM Response to Reply #66 |
87. I like the optical scan - we have paper ballots that can be counted either way |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
71. I never really felt like I was part of the fringe. So there... |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 04:21 PM Response to Reply #71 |
79. Hah! Nice. |
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formercia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 04:23 PM Response to Reply #71 |
80. You never were part of the 'Fringe.' |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
81. I've NEVER thought the left was fringe because I NEVER believed the propaganda the right wing |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 06:19 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Same here. Time to debunk some myths and time for lefties to stand tall. |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
84. The Left never truly was the 'fringe'. That was a falsehood perpetrated upon a dimwitted America |
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HomerRamone (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
85. I love Fringe! ~(_8^(|) |
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salguine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
88. Well, until they stop getting cold feet in the voting booth and voting for the |
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