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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 08:46 AM Original message |
If you've witnessed all the evidence you need, please check-in. It's time for Public Mass Transit. |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
1. Don't say that.... |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 08:54 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. You are correct. I insulted third-world countries and I apologize to them! |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 12:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
40. I can vouch from ongoing personal experience that is 100% true. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
3. I loved the subway system in Boston |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 09:51 AM Response to Reply #3 |
14. Yup, no end to individualized transportation |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 07:16 PM Response to Reply #14 |
120. Even though Japan has more cars in rural areas than in urban areas |
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NuttyFluffers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 02:46 AM Response to Reply #120 |
166. i have experienced this too in more rural Japan. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 05:41 AM Response to Reply #120 |
175. They believe in the 'common good'. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 02:33 PM Response to Reply #175 |
209. One of my recent translation projects is about how an entire prefecture (state) in Japan |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 08:58 PM Response to Reply #209 |
210. Forward thinking! |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 10:16 PM Response to Reply #14 |
156. We need a mix. In the early 2000s, Los Angeles built a rail from |
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xxqqqzme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 01:54 AM Response to Reply #156 |
165. It is great. I have used the blue line any |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 12:53 PM Response to Reply #3 |
45. They have it in Poland |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 12:57 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Have you ever been out west? |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 01:09 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Yes |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 01:10 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. You need to look at a MAP |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 01:27 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Then how do the cars get to them? |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:29 PM Response to Reply #54 |
66. No need to get abusive |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:02 PM Response to Reply #66 |
73. The cost of maintaining our highway infrastructure is becoming unsustainable. |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 08:36 PM Response to Reply #66 |
130. One word for you: Texas. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 11:29 AM Response to Reply #130 |
200. No kidding |
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NuttyFluffers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 02:58 AM Response to Reply #66 |
168. sparsely populated like 400 pop. town in Poland? did you even read izquierdista's posts? |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 11:31 AM Response to Reply #168 |
201. This is not Poland |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 05:47 AM Response to Reply #66 |
177. Gee wizz, Warpy, I heard no one |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 11:35 PM Response to Reply #51 |
161. The ones with most of the population are. |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 08:50 PM Response to Reply #48 |
134. But there are regions where it would be highly desirable |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 08:43 PM Response to Reply #45 |
133. Having lived in Krakow I concur 100%. |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
4. And REAL mass transit! |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 09:14 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Mass Transit is like "government": people support less of an investment than the need justifys on |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 12:20 PM Response to Reply #9 |
32. Those who claim that transit is too costly to build fail to see the far more expensive.. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 04:52 PM Response to Reply #32 |
85. Yes! They "fail to see the far more expensive": |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 04:58 PM Response to Reply #32 |
86. Case in point: My daughter owns her own successful business, in part, BECAUSE she has access to good |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 05:57 AM Response to Reply #32 |
179. Yeah, why can't those greedy |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 06:21 PM Response to Reply #9 |
97. Meanwhile those of us that CAN'T drive are left being forced to use the shit-filled dinosaurs. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 07:22 PM Response to Reply #97 |
122. Yes, most of us never think about how our car-centered society, far from being "liberating," |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 05:53 AM Response to Reply #9 |
178. Hey, patrice, we seem to have a lot |
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BreweryYardRat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 12:43 PM Response to Reply #4 |
41. Fucking SECONDED. |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 12:55 PM Response to Reply #4 |
47. Absolutely. Well said Kansdem! Fucking thirded! |
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kurtzapril4 (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 08:26 PM Response to Reply #4 |
128. There is absolutely NO public trans |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
5. K + RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! |
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handmade34 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 09:09 AM Response to Original message |
6. rec |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 10:22 AM Response to Reply #6 |
16. Indeed, way overdue! |
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southern_belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
7. K & R |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
8. the best they have here is one bus a few times a day |
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YouGotRondod (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
10. IDK Warpy |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:31 PM Response to Reply #10 |
67. Everybody bitches about the T |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 12:01 PM Response to Reply #67 |
202. As far as old subways go, the T is a dream compared to the MTA |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 12:47 PM Response to Reply #202 |
208. It was like that 40 years ago |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 06:41 PM Response to Reply #10 |
111. The T is old and cranky but it's an extensive network of trains and buses |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 09:24 PM Response to Reply #10 |
143. Don't think in terms of "country" think in terms of states. |
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tabbycat31 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
11. unfortunately our governor declared war on mass transit |
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SemperEadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 05:59 AM Response to Reply #11 |
180. Christie needs to be recalled |
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tabbycat31 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 07:42 AM Response to Reply #180 |
190. it can't be started until November |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
12. That would be excellent. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
13. I love NYC's transit system. |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 10:04 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Yep. It's a hoot just going for a train ride. (during non-peak hours) |
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dem mba (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 10:40 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. I live here and haven't owned a car in 5 years |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 11:01 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Smart urban planning. I hope other cities start following. Chicago could sure.. |
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name not needed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 05:49 PM Response to Reply #18 |
93. In a city that large, there's bound to be some masochists. Thus the people driving in Manhattan. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 06:16 PM Response to Reply #18 |
95. Yeah, it's peachy-keen for taxis and visitors. NOT. |
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name not needed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 06:36 PM Response to Reply #95 |
107. God forbid the city place the concerns of citizens over those of tourists. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 06:51 PM Response to Reply #107 |
117. We ARE speaking of NYC, correct? You think Times Sq is closed for residents?! |
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SemperEadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 06:00 AM Response to Reply #18 |
181. I'm waiting for when they shut down all passenger traffic in Manhattan |
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dem mba (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 10:10 AM Response to Reply #181 |
199. if they get the 2nd Ave subway up and running |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 09:38 PM Response to Reply #13 |
147. Too bad dthat is always the first thing that is cut when there are budget problems. |
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Berry Cool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
17. I'm with you, friend. |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 11:30 AM Response to Reply #17 |
23. IMO - A better "next step"... |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
19. And where there isn't any yet, carpool, plan ahead...we DON'T need to DRILL! n/t |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 11:51 AM Response to Reply #19 |
25. Yep, it's time to bring back carpooling which used to be pretty popular. |
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malletgirl02 (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 06:51 PM Response to Reply #25 |
116. Carpooling |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
21. I've switched to mass transit for the past two weeks. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
22. Went to Europe last summer and was amazed |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 12:51 PM Response to Reply #22 |
44. It requires social investsment. |
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SemperEadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 06:03 AM Response to Reply #44 |
182. that's the libertarian way, dontcha know? |
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Tailormyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
24. We need to change the way communities are planned for that to work |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
26. K & R. Cleveland's PT is horrible. |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:01 PM Response to Reply #26 |
62. So many cities have allowed there transit to fall into a state of disrepair.. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 06:13 AM Response to Reply #26 |
183. You have hit on it. |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
27. Howdy! |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 12:33 PM Response to Reply #27 |
37. Howdy BTD |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
28. National high speed Mag Lev monorail system |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 12:27 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. Catching up to the rest of the world is like socialistical or something. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 06:15 AM Response to Reply #34 |
184. In other words, |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 12:29 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. I'm a big fan of high-speed trains. Safe, fast, affordable transportation. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 09:52 PM Response to Reply #35 |
150. Plus they can be very relaxing, unlike I-4 |
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OJones (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 04:00 AM Response to Reply #150 |
170. Good point! |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
29. K/R. Live in Phoenix--abysmal public transit and when I can, I still use it. I've been to Europe, |
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Zix (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
30. Sitting next to POOR PEOPLE? EW. |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
31. How will public transit help grocery shoppers? |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 12:23 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Er, I see groceries on public transit all the time. (nt) |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 12:41 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. 50 lb bags of rice and dry beans? |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 12:45 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Not often, but sure, and smaller items than that constantly. (nt) |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:14 PM Response to Reply #39 |
76. I recently saw a guy walk aboard a bus with a 50lb bag of dogfood on his shoulder. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 06:22 PM Response to Reply #76 |
99. Operative term: GUY. |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 06:33 PM Response to Reply #99 |
105. Dogfood is also sold in 3, 5, 10, 20, 30 lb bags also. My sister can lug a 50 bag on her shoulder. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 06:52 PM Response to Reply #105 |
118. Yes, personal anecdotes make the strongest arguments. |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 08:53 PM Response to Reply #39 |
135. I don't even think they even sell sizes that large at most grocery stores |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 08:56 PM Response to Reply #135 |
137. Indeed. |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 09:00 PM Response to Reply #137 |
140. I imagine people in NYC have tried to move around a lot of strange and unweildy stuff |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 09:57 PM Response to Reply #39 |
151. Use these, as they do in Europe: |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 12:32 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. I see groceries all the time on CTA(chicago) trains and buses. nt |
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spinbaby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 12:33 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. You buy groceries a bit at a time |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 12:44 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. We have one grocer in town who, I understand, is modeled thusly. |
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Llewlladdwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 12:58 PM Response to Reply #38 |
49. Awesome! |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 01:18 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. So it's really all about you? Very forward thinking there. nt |
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Llewlladdwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 01:25 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. It's about me to the extent that I have better things to do with my time. |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 01:32 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Is transit adequate in your area? Would an improved transit system reduce that 1 hour commute? nt |
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Llewlladdwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:07 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. I honestly don't see how. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 06:24 AM Response to Reply #63 |
186. I think we need to |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 01:39 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. I imagine many people value their own time more than... |
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Llewlladdwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:10 PM Response to Reply #58 |
64. I imagine they do. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 12:14 PM Response to Reply #64 |
205. My satisfaction is irrelevant. Answer to your own conscious. |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 04:02 PM Response to Reply #58 |
81. My wife and I value our time so much that we don't commute. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 06:02 PM Response to Reply #53 |
94. Would it meet with your approval if others decide to do it differently? |
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Llewlladdwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 12:13 PM Response to Reply #94 |
204. Most certainly. |
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Zix (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:58 PM Response to Reply #49 |
69. I pick up my dinner daily from the shop on the way walking home from work. |
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Llewlladdwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:30 PM Response to Reply #69 |
78. If it was just my dinner it wouldn't be that big an issue. |
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Zix (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:41 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. ... uh .... |
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Llewlladdwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:59 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. Zix, have you ridden a bus much? |
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Zix (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 04:20 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. I ride a bus every morning. I take the bus in the morning and walk home. |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 05:40 PM Response to Reply #83 |
88. Anyone that says public transit can't work has never been to Europe. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 06:43 PM Response to Reply #88 |
113. NOT SO. I've been EVERY place in W. Europe, and even some Eastern. |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 12:24 AM Response to Reply #113 |
163. You're seriously using "OOPS! Socialism!" as an argument? |
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spinbaby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 05:39 PM Response to Reply #80 |
87. You're thinking of American transport |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 05:42 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. Just can't get through to some people. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 06:27 PM Response to Reply #79 |
102. Two bags? Bwahahaha! And try adding bottles of stuff to drink. |
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OJones (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 04:22 AM Response to Reply #79 |
171. I'd like to add |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 06:19 AM Response to Reply #49 |
185. No one suggested |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 06:23 PM Response to Reply #38 |
100. We know how Europe does it. Europeans get breaks during the day, also. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 09:00 PM Response to Reply #100 |
141. Actually, many, if not most, of them don't. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 07:21 PM Response to Reply #38 |
121. Yup, that's how it works in the rest of the world |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 05:46 AM Response to Reply #38 |
176. Or you take public transporation to the store. Phone for a taxi to pick you up at a certain time... |
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Retrograde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 01:53 PM Response to Reply #31 |
60. Smaller loads, more frequent trips |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:22 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. Interesting points. |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 06:49 PM Response to Reply #31 |
115. Carried groceries on mass transit for years. The key is to shop outside of commuter hours. |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 07:34 PM Response to Reply #31 |
123. I've taken all those things onto the NYC Subway. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 08:55 PM Response to Reply #31 |
136. Plenty of grocery shoppers use buses and light rail in Portland. |
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NuttyFluffers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 02:49 AM Response to Reply #31 |
167. often jobs are created by delivery services to supplement. |
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Pooka Fey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 08:13 AM Response to Reply #31 |
193. If you don't have a car, and you need to go buy food .... |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
46. K&R. Watching yet another pitch go by. |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
55. K&R. High speed rail NOW. |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 01:37 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Yep. I hope he pushes for it now. Seeing what oil is doing to this planet. |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
59. It will be very difficult in some areas but we simply have to do better. |
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William Z. Foster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
61. k and r |
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
68. What about airplanes? Will they go away? |
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Zix (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:59 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. I hope so. |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
71. Yes! First-class citizenship for me at last! |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:01 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. self-delete |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:04 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. Yes. For you and so many others. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 06:28 PM Response to Reply #71 |
103. Yup! Those of us that can't drive are 2ND CLASS CITIZENS!!! |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
75. Don't forget Big Auto |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:15 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. Yep. Big Auto destroyed transit in many cities. Prevented it in many cities too. |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
82. Not practical in the vast majority of the United States |
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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 04:23 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. Majority land area wise or population wise? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 06:32 PM Response to Reply #84 |
104. That's the spirit! Fuck all us people here in Fly-Over country that can't drive! |
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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 06:36 PM Response to Reply #104 |
108. Did you mean to reply to me or the poster I was replying to |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 06:41 PM Response to Reply #108 |
112. OOPS, yeah, I was replying to Tonysam! |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 08:57 PM Response to Reply #104 |
138. It's probably not practical to fund a lot of mass transit between cities hours and hours apart. |
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Jkid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 06:25 PM Response to Reply #82 |
101. What about for these following people? |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 08:58 PM Response to Reply #82 |
139. Funny thing. |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
90. I am going to give up my car. |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 11:50 PM Response to Reply #90 |
162. Thank you |
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shireen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
91. Mass transit is not practical everywhere |
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Old Troop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
92. They need to make the scheduling and routes more user-friendly. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
96. To those of us that can't drive, lack of good public transport is a human rights violation. |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 06:47 PM Response to Reply #96 |
114. Damn right Odin. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 07:11 PM Response to Reply #114 |
119. Thanks! |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 09:31 PM Response to Reply #96 |
145. Exactly! We need to open an open conversation in this country. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
98. Perhaps MASS TRANSIT should be a major Obama goal, as opposed to going to MARS. |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 09:40 PM Response to Reply #98 |
148. hmmm. Now THATis an idea whose time has come. Imagine if we spent all thedefense budget on public |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
106. K&R |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
109. Oil industry should be nationalized, in the first place. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 06:42 AM Response to Reply #109 |
187. At the very least they |
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unc70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
110. FREE buses for everyone -- Chapel Hill, NC |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
124. Car-free life and vegetarianism |
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NuttyFluffers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 03:30 AM Response to Reply #124 |
169. a fun supporting correlation: Koreans thought living on hills away from the city was strange. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 09:19 AM Response to Reply #169 |
195. That's similar to Japan |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
125. Already ride our area bus that picks up in the rural areas of the reservation. |
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LawnKorn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
126. K&R |
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freedom fighter jh (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
127. Yes. And better accommodations for pedestrians and cyclists n/t |
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austin78704 (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
129. Bicycles |
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burnsei sensei (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 08:37 PM Response to Original message |
131. Fund all forms of public transportation |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 06:47 AM Response to Reply #131 |
188. I'm with you! |
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Mojeoux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
132. What "Artist's Representation of the Future" did not include a rad Monorail? n/t |
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Patchuli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
142. It is definitely time for mass transit and rail! nt |
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Kievan Rus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
144. Transit user here. I have absolutely no desire to buy a car until... |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 10:04 PM Response to Reply #144 |
154. They still aren't as destructive as beef consumption |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 09:34 PM Response to Original message |
146. +10000. I am so pissed that they are cutting mass transit here in NYC!!! |
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Kievan Rus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 11:31 PM Response to Reply #146 |
160. You know it's bad when they cut transit service in New York |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 12:15 PM Response to Reply #146 |
206. It's really started to get bad, so I have started walking to work, |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
149. Really great post . . . notice a lot of replies are based on suburbs and distant suburbs .... |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 10:03 PM Response to Reply #149 |
152. What's getting insanely frustrating is that we don't seem to be able to change |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 10:23 PM Response to Reply #152 |
157. Completely agree with you -- but the right wing works at this constantly 24/7 . . . |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
153. It goes beyond mass transit, much beyond mass transit |
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proReality (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
155. Trains! I want trains!!! |
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SaveAmerica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
158. Yes, and I will be getting with local dems to start the lobbying process... |
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Stumbler (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
159. Here in MN |
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garybeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 12:39 AM Response to Original message |
164. "Electric driven zero emission?" |
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nutshell2002 (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 05:16 AM Response to Original message |
172. I wonder how much mass transit |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 05:34 AM Response to Original message |
173. Big Oil is the reason why |
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SemperEadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 05:40 AM Response to Original message |
174. don't forget to add--all night access |
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Courtesy Flush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 07:29 AM Response to Original message |
189. It's only partly about the environment |
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Myrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 07:59 AM Response to Original message |
191. Aye! My daughter has a summer job and there's no efficient busline ... |
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Pooka Fey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 08:08 AM Response to Original message |
192. K&R |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
194. Yes please! Funded as part of the defense budget. |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
196. Shameless plug for the Public Transportation & Smarth Growth forum...... |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
197. I am all for mass transit in cities. I used to use it myself, every day. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 09:31 AM Response to Original message |
198. As long as the trains are made in Europe, China, and Japan, I don't support it. |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 09:03 PM Response to Reply #198 |
211. They'd likely be made domestically... |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
203. I think North Central TX has finally reached a pop. density.... |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
207. Absolutely, but don't forget the need for drastic changes in individual transport we need |
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