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Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 01:03 PM Original message |
A Sad Story I was Told this Weekend, re: "illegal" immigrants |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
1. he's not being called a lawbreaker for wanting a better life, but for breaking the law. |
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Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 01:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. It's not his fault he's being kept "illegal" so other can exploit him |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 01:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. People who exceed the speed limit are subject to a fine when apprehended. |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 01:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. But where are the gigantic anti-speeding rallies? |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Don't have an answer to any of that. But the fact remains - both |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:17 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. And there are lots of deaths from autoerotic asphyxiation, too |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:18 PM Response to Reply #17 |
40. Apprehending a jaywalker does not result in returning that walker |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:03 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. Some speeders get a warning -- some are even ignored |
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Xicano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:22 PM Response to Reply #3 |
20. Then you're the descendant of an illegal immigrant, thus under the new rules makes you illegal |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 05:39 PM Response to Reply #20 |
48. Actually, I am the offspring of an immigrant. My father came here |
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nomorenomore08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 05:48 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. "Anchor babies"? "Born within hours"? |
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Xicano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 06:58 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. Touché, however.... |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:23 PM Response to Reply #3 |
21. Both activities are illegal. However, people are not. We don't call the speeder an illegal driver. |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 05:47 PM Response to Reply #21 |
49. We call the speeder a lawbreaker. We call the person whose authorization |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:52 PM Response to Reply #2 |
31. Sorry - he didn't go through the |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:19 PM Response to Reply #2 |
42. "It's not his fault he's being kept "illegal" so other can exploit him" |
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Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:24 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Facts: They help |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. It's not a crime to be in the country without papers |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:50 PM Response to Reply #10 |
30. It is illegal to be in the county without authorization. Period. |
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Xicano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 07:16 PM Response to Reply #30 |
53. Agreed |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
4. It's very sad that some of us have to break the law to find a better life... |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 01:45 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. They are happy for the anchor on the way. |
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Flaneur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:05 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. I swear, some people are on the wrong web site. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:24 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Well said! |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:17 PM Response to Reply #5 |
16. Wrong... they are awesome neighbors here... |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
37. how much are your neighbors charging them for this "garage" ... is it a legal |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 06:06 PM Response to Reply #37 |
51. They aren't charging... it's family... |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
6. Your friend's uncle is typical of the vast majority of undocumented residents. |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
7. It's why we need comprehensive reform as proposed by the Progressive Caucus, Obama, and organized |
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HillGal (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
9. Is he a licensed driver? and does he carry insurance? he shouldn't be driving without those things |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:02 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Don't know were Nuclear Unicorn lives, but I-25 runs through New Mexico where illegal immigrants can |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:32 PM Response to Reply #9 |
26. Probably from the "uninsured motorist" insurance that auto insurance companies sell us... |
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HillGal (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:41 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. I never heard that before, what is "uninsured motorist insurance"? and who pays for it? Thanks NT |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:55 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. The insured driver pays for it... |
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HillGal (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:00 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. So is that automatically written into my insurance policy? or do I have to ask my insurance company |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 04:51 PM Response to Reply #36 |
44. I'm not really sure... |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
15. You know know who else obeys all traffic laws to avoid detection? |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:26 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. Your meaness is showing. I'm sure your halo is glowing in the dark. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:29 PM Response to Reply #15 |
25. Wow... what feels bigger when you're mean like that? |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
18. Well, he is a law-breaker. |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:27 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. No, he once broke a law. Haven't you? |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:48 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. No, his continued ILLEGAL presence in this country is a continuous violation of the law. |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:58 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. Yes, smoking MJ for one. I am interested in how this man is being rewarded? |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:16 PM Response to Reply #29 |
39. Yep. I think people should be allowed to smoke cannabis..especially if they are sick. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 05:36 PM Response to Reply #29 |
47. Well, see, now you've convinced me. |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 05:08 PM Response to Reply #24 |
46. Sorry, that doesn't fly. |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
19. People who drive without auto insurance do the same thing...drive very carefully |
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bighart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
28. How are undocumented Guatemalens and El Salvadorians |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:56 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. If Mexico treated people better... |
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bighart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:57 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. So are you saying Mexico doesn't have a stellar record in how |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 04:52 PM Response to Reply #34 |
45. No... not even close... |
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MODem75 (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:11 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. So you are saying it is ok for us to enforce inhumane laws because |
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bighart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:18 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. No. I am saying it looks to me like a great |
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