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time_has_come (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 01:28 AM Original message |
Point your innocent finger, but we're getting exactly what we deserve |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 01:29 AM Response to Original message |
1. We are all responsible to push for change, see you at the protest sister/brother nt |
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time_has_come (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 01:36 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Yes, but WHAT change? |
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Kablooie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 03:15 AM Response to Reply #2 |
16. We need a Manhattan Project for alternative energy. |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 10:39 AM Response to Reply #16 |
29. We need a Manhattan Project |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 10:41 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Nobody in the West |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 01:14 PM Response to Reply #30 |
53. LOL. |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 01:17 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. What a tremendously factual argument. |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 01:44 AM Response to Original message |
3. Yea we're responsible, but not in the way you think. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 03:44 AM Response to Reply #3 |
20. A slight correction: not bigger than all sources combined: biggest single user. |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 04:16 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Still the largest consumer in the US I believe. I know I'm dreaming when |
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happy_liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 11:21 AM Response to Reply #3 |
47. yes, our military uses more oil trying to get oil from Iraq-makes no sense |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 11:31 AM Response to Reply #3 |
49. Time to tie in the military with the disaster in the Gulf, yes nt |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 08:42 PM Response to Reply #3 |
68. Nah we use more fuel to feed you and me |
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noise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 01:45 AM Response to Original message |
4. Said the BP spokesperson |
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time_has_come (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 01:54 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Of course not. But they ARE a monster of our own creation. |
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time_has_come (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 10:44 AM Response to Reply #4 |
32. Oh, is that what I said? Gee whiz |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 01:48 AM Response to Original message |
5. I see you gave up on your claims that BP is NOT trying to impede reporters. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 01:50 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. +1000 nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 01:57 AM Response to Reply #5 |
11. Deleted message |
time_has_come (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 10:45 AM Response to Reply #5 |
33. The CEO wasn't trying to impede reporters when he barked at them on that beach. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 01:49 AM Response to Original message |
6. The moral equivalency crap is getting old. |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 01:56 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. +1 Poor, poor, poor BP we drove em to it. That's the ticket! Yeah... |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 02:02 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Yes. The cries of people hungry for oil haunted them and forced them to take risks to satisfy us. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 02:08 AM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Furthermore, not everyone drives a car. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 02:17 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Excellent points! eom |
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time_has_come (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 10:36 AM Response to Reply #14 |
28. Don't think when you park your car your hands become clean |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 01:07 PM Response to Reply #28 |
52. I don't have a car. I don't think my hands are clean. And you need to stop projecting. |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 11:40 AM Response to Reply #14 |
50. well put Jack nt |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 11:09 AM Response to Reply #6 |
41. Understatement |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 08:44 PM Response to Reply #6 |
70. Actually reaizing what is the basis of our current |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 01:53 AM Response to Original message |
8. We were all born into the system we are in, we cannot be responsible for that |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 02:00 AM Response to Original message |
12. No thanks. I'm out in the streets trying to end capitalism around twice a week. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 03:22 AM Response to Original message |
17. bullshit |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 03:27 AM Response to Original message |
18. Yeah, poor BP, each & every one of us forced them to cut corners. Hogwash. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 03:29 AM Response to Original message |
19. We buy the fuel, some of us own the stock, and we all elected the government officials |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 03:46 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. And short of a revolution, what could've we done to change any of that? |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 03:22 PM Response to Reply #21 |
58. Nothing. And he knows it. Just making excuses for the corporate criminal class. nt |
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Xicano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 03:50 AM Response to Original message |
22. A major flaw in your logic. |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 04:21 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Don't forget the car makers, bought off regulators, and our pols |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 04:28 AM Response to Original message |
25. and stupid simplistic collective guillt crap is still shit on a shingle |
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happy_liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 11:25 AM Response to Reply #25 |
48. yes- just how stupid do they think we are |
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Scuba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 04:43 AM Response to Original message |
26. Not even close... |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 04:52 AM Response to Original message |
27. i'm really tired of this kind of post. it's true, everyone except hermit bob uses oil |
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time_has_come (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
31. I stand corrected. BP isn't something we created and enrich. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 10:50 AM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Sorry, but your point doesn't fly |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
34. Only true to a certain extent. BP cut all kinds of corners. |
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time_has_come (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 10:48 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Correct on all counts. And we can make changes to remedy all that... |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 10:56 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. There will be no stopping of drilling in the near future. But down the line |
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time_has_come (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 11:09 AM Response to Reply #37 |
42. You hit upon the solution though... |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 11:15 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. I agree. Will this move people to action, the public and the govt.? |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 09:03 PM Response to Reply #42 |
74. Welcome to the 21st Century |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 11:18 AM Response to Reply #34 |
45. + 1 nt |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
38. What do they pay you, anyway? |
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time_has_come (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 11:06 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. The truth is it's own reward. n/t |
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Motown_Johnny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
39. most of us are for responsible drilling, you can't blame us for irresponsible actions |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
43. Unrec for another blame the people, not the corporations post. |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
46. Not me. I produce my own ethanol |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
51. Brainwashed people are NOT "really" responsible for their actions. |
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William Z. Foster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
54. blaming the working people |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
56. We should all just kill ourselves |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 03:18 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Oh, you do make wonderful points! |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 04:01 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. I'm getting sick of people |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 04:04 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. I agree. And it's an excellent attempt to minimize the criminality of the industry. nt |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 04:08 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Tylenol is in trouble because they took short cuts in manufacturing their product |
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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 08:47 PM Response to Reply #63 |
71. Best thing that ever happened to me . . . |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 09:30 PM Response to Reply #71 |
84. Someone hit you with the soft end of a 2 X 4 there taterguy? |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
59. oh |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
61. Fail. Utterly pathetic. |
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robdogbucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 04:38 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. There is a friend of our family |
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time_has_come (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 08:32 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Yes, we do need to muster the courage. The courage to do what is not clear |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 08:41 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Oh |
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time_has_come (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 08:55 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. The existence of BP et al is OUR fault |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 09:11 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. You admit YOU are to blame |
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time_has_come (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 09:26 PM Response to Reply #76 |
81. Did i deny it? Am i not part of "we"? |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 09:30 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Y'know what? |
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time_has_come (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 09:34 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. LOL. Thought you ignored me already... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 10:13 PM Response to Reply #64 |
97. Well I am not shocked that they reached the systems analysis |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
66. I suppose if the Hoover Dam broke due to negligence |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
69. A real turd of an OP. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 08:49 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Tell me, today have you used ANYTHING |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 09:04 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. i'm so disgusted by corporatist apologists, i want to throw up. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 09:13 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. THis is not about the corporation |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 09:17 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. Nadine - so what is your POINT?? Other than shifting the blame from where it truly belongs. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 09:28 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. I am well beyond playing the blame game |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 09:34 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. Ahhh... forgive me, but that sounds like more corporatist apologism (is that a proper noun?) |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 09:40 PM Response to Reply #86 |
89. Exactly where have I defended their actions? |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 09:48 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. glad you feel better. |
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time_has_come (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 09:44 PM Response to Reply #86 |
91. Nadine spent time giving you some intelligent points... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 09:50 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. Welcome to DU by the way |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 09:50 PM Response to Reply #91 |
95. yawn. run along, flame somebody else. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 09:53 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. I like you, but on this one |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 03:21 AM Response to Reply #91 |
101. Do you honestly think you are capable of making such and evaluation |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 09:12 PM Response to Reply #72 |
77. The system analysis includes not having things like mostly bad groups |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 09:17 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. First things first, realize where we are |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
87. . |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
88. Enjoying your little flamefest? Hope the pilot light isn't on gas. |
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Zoeisright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 09:41 PM Response to Original message |
90. You are absolutely right. |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
93. Pathetic. It's YOUR fault - the apologists and enablers of destructive greed. You blame the victim. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 10:22 PM Response to Reply #93 |
98. There is a lot of truth in that statement. Blindness to scale and proportionality... |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
99. Do we have to quit breathing to complain about air pollution? |
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underseasurveyor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 12:57 AM Response to Original message |
100. Oh What a Bunch of Horse Apples |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 11:52 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. Hey! We don't use that kind of harsh language here. |
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underseasurveyor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-10 09:16 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. Oh golly gee I'm so sorry |
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