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kpete
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Tue Jun-08-10 10:33 AM Original message |
Standing Up for Helen Thomas - By Robert Parry |
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laughingliberal
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Tue Jun-08-10 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
1. K & R nt |
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liberalmike27
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Wed Jun-09-10 01:27 AM Response to Reply #1 |
131. So True |
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xchrom
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Tue Jun-08-10 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
2. Recommend |
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Whisp
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Tue Jun-08-10 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
3. K&R |
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malaise
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Tue Jun-08-10 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
4. Excellent article |
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EFerrari
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Tue Jun-08-10 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
5. Parry is another treasure. K&R |
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Tue Jun-08-10 10:48 AM Response to Reply #5 |
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n2doc
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Tue Jun-08-10 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
6. That bias continues here too n/t |
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defendandprotect
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Tue Jun-08-10 05:40 PM Response to Reply #6 |
46. Right and IMO in large part because there is too little real discussion of |
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BlueMTexpat
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Wed Jun-09-10 02:18 AM Response to Reply #46 |
133. Yes, we provide some aid to Gaza |
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chimpymustgo
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Wed Jun-09-10 09:00 AM Response to Reply #46 |
144. The collective censorship on this issue is astonishing and frightening - whether it's DU or the |
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chimpymustgo
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Wed Jun-09-10 09:00 AM Response to Reply #46 |
145. The collective censorship on this issue is astonishing and frightening - whether it's DU or the |
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Uncle Joe
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Tue Jun-08-10 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
7. Kicked and recommended. |
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City Lights
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Tue Jun-08-10 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
8. K&R nt |
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AnArmyVeteran
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Tue Jun-08-10 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
10. Thanks |
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Hell Hath No Fury
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Tue Jun-08-10 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
11. I saw Frank Sesno on CNN -- |
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MicaelS
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Tue Jun-08-10 11:25 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. If her views were "very well known to everyone".... |
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EFerrari
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Tue Jun-08-10 11:32 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Are we going to start attacking people for their privately held views now? |
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MicaelS
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Tue Jun-08-10 12:22 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. Yes we are..... |
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EFerrari
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Tue Jun-08-10 12:53 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Right. The distinction I was making is between public and private. |
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defendandprotect
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Tue Jun-08-10 05:56 PM Response to Reply #22 |
51. Think you're onto a big discussion there . . . . |
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liberation
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Tue Jun-08-10 04:17 PM Response to Reply #21 |
32. Except that Helen Thomas is a public figure, and not a supposed family member of an anonymous poster |
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Chulanowa
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Tue Jun-08-10 03:58 PM Response to Reply #12 |
31. Because perhaps there is nothing worth outing? |
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Chef Eric
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Tue Jun-08-10 09:13 PM Response to Reply #31 |
84. The problem is not that she thinks the Israelis "are not always right." |
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Chulanowa
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Wed Jun-09-10 12:32 AM Response to Reply #84 |
124. "She implied" - Is that so? |
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Chef Eric
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Wed Jun-09-10 05:32 AM Response to Reply #124 |
139. If she was talking about Jews in West Bank/Gaza, why did she say they should go to Germany/Poland? |
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Chulanowa
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Wed Jun-09-10 07:23 AM Response to Reply #139 |
141. There's only one answer you want to hear and want to accept |
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Chef Eric
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Wed Jun-09-10 08:28 AM Response to Reply #141 |
142. Boy, you just LOVE to tell me what I am really hearing, really thinking, really saying. |
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Chulanowa
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Wed Jun-09-10 02:42 PM Response to Reply #142 |
166. And I have a problem with what you are suggesting and implying |
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modestybl
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Tue Jun-08-10 11:34 PM Response to Reply #31 |
116. She thinks that the state of Israel was a mistake, and I agree... |
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nightgaunt
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Mon Jun-14-10 06:25 PM Response to Reply #116 |
189. She was talking about the inequality between them |
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defendandprotect
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Tue Jun-08-10 05:50 PM Response to Reply #12 |
49. Thought the questioning of her in that video was a bit odd on reflection..... |
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Chulanowa
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Wed Jun-09-10 03:28 PM Response to Reply #49 |
170. We'll never hear from anyone else |
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Carolina
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Tue Jun-08-10 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
13. K&R |
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Laughing Mirror
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Tue Jun-08-10 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
15. Good to hear intelligent and brave colleagues speaking up |
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Catherina
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Tue Jun-08-10 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
16. And there you have it |
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KharmaTrain
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Tue Jun-08-10 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
17. The Disconnect... |
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sabrina 1
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Tue Jun-08-10 07:47 PM Response to Reply #17 |
75. Ari Fleischer, propagandist for war crimiinals, |
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Peregrine Took
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Tue Jun-08-10 08:27 PM Response to Reply #75 |
80. Low, low POS. n/t |
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BrklynLiberal
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Tue Jun-08-10 09:59 PM Response to Reply #17 |
94. Well said. |
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inna
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Tue Jun-08-10 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
18. kr+45 |
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uppityperson
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Tue Jun-08-10 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
19. K&R |
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blm
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Tue Jun-08-10 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
20. Thank you Robert Parry.... |
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glitch
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Tue Jun-08-10 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
23. Thank you Robert Parry -- one of the last of the genuine journalists. |
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Spheric
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Tue Jun-08-10 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
24. K&R /nt |
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jacksprat
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Tue Jun-08-10 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
25. Criticize Israel?! |
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Chef Eric
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Tue Jun-08-10 09:23 PM Response to Reply #25 |
86. How is not anti-semitic to say that the Jews should "go back to Germany and Poland"? nt |
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Tue Jun-08-10 10:21 PM Response to Reply #86 |
98. Reverse that question. How *is* it anti-semitic? |
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Chef Eric
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Tue Jun-08-10 10:57 PM Response to Reply #98 |
109. There has been a continuous Jewish presence in that land for thousands of years. |
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German
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Wed Jun-09-10 02:42 AM Response to Reply #109 |
136. But are the israelis jews of today from the holy land? |
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Chef Eric
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Wed Jun-09-10 05:20 AM Response to Reply #136 |
138. Yes, they are. DNA evidence has debunked the "Khazar" theory. |
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cali
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Sun Jun-13-10 08:32 AM Response to Reply #138 |
186. Not the Khazar shit again. |
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Recursion
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Wed Jun-09-10 06:42 AM Response to Reply #109 |
140. Umm.. no you didn't |
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stranger81
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Wed Jun-09-10 11:58 AM Response to Reply #86 |
151. She didn't just say "Germany and Poland." She said "Germany, Poland, the United States" |
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orbitalman
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Tue Jun-08-10 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
26. Tell all the damn pundits (both R & D) I support Helen .... |
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Mugweed
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Tue Jun-08-10 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
27. You'd think she murdered 9 people in international waters, the way people reacted. |
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sabrina 1
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Wed Jun-09-10 02:24 AM Response to Reply #27 |
135. You would, wouldn't you? |
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MissDeeds
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Tue Jun-08-10 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
28. K&R |
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chill_wind
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Tue Jun-08-10 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
29. K & R. n/t |
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JDPriestly
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Tue Jun-08-10 03:58 PM Original message |
Helen Thomas was way, way out of line. |
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defendandprotect
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Tue Jun-08-10 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
56. Suffering is suffering whether you are a Jew or a Palestinian -- |
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JDPriestly
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Tue Jun-08-10 07:05 PM Response to Reply #56 |
65. Did the US take in Jews threatened by Hitler? |
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cascadiance
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Tue Jun-08-10 09:34 PM Response to Reply #65 |
91. Turkey did take in German jews threatened by Hitler before the holocaust... |
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defendandprotect
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Tue Jun-08-10 10:07 PM Response to Reply #91 |
96. Thanks for that and . . . |
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cascadiance
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Tue Jun-08-10 10:22 PM Response to Reply #96 |
99. Wow, I wasn't aware that the "Z" word was a bad word. |
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defendandprotect
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Tue Jun-08-10 10:54 PM Response to Reply #99 |
107. As far as I'm aware . . . think it says that in the I/P forum . . . |
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Chef Eric
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Tue Jun-08-10 11:17 PM Response to Reply #96 |
110. The problem is not with the word "Zionist." The problem is that so few people know what it means. |
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Tue Jun-08-10 11:36 PM Response to Reply #110 |
117. I was under that impression to though, where Zionism implies the structure of the government... |
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defendandprotect
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Wed Jun-09-10 01:49 PM Response to Reply #117 |
158. Certainly, the situation where Israel is an "occupier" over the state of Palestine .... |
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defendandprotect
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Wed Jun-09-10 12:13 PM Response to Reply #110 |
155. The question was the USE of the word in DU forums . . . |
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Hell Hath No Fury
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Wed Jun-09-10 12:20 PM Response to Reply #110 |
156. "...a right to their own homeland." |
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JDPriestly
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Wed Jun-09-10 12:45 AM Response to Reply #91 |
126. Turkey would have done precisely the same thing as the Israelis did |
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cascadiance
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Wed Jun-09-10 01:02 AM Response to Reply #126 |
129. Speculation on your part. And the line was not there in INTERNATIONAL WATERS... |
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JDPriestly
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Wed Jun-09-10 02:21 AM Response to Reply #129 |
134. You are probably too young to remember the Turkish-Cypriot conflict. |
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cascadiance
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Wed Jun-09-10 02:52 PM Response to Reply #134 |
168. Too young? I probably knew more people DIRECTLY involved in that than you did! |
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defendandprotect
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Tue Jun-08-10 10:02 PM Response to Reply #65 |
95. US turned away a boatload of Jews trying to excape Germany ... forced to return... |
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B Whale
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Wed Jun-09-10 08:06 PM Response to Reply #65 |
174. that is a significantly biased view of WW2 |
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JDPriestly
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Tue Jun-08-10 07:10 PM Response to Reply #56 |
66. If you look at the map, you will note that the largest part of Transjordan |
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defendandprotect
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Tue Jun-08-10 10:14 PM Response to Reply #66 |
97. Does this suggest to you somehow .... |
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JDPriestly
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Wed Jun-09-10 12:43 AM Response to Reply #97 |
125. The Palestinians have a homeland. |
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defendandprotect
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Wed Jun-09-10 12:06 PM Response to Reply #125 |
153. Evidently, we're all talking about the need for a "State of Palestine" .... |
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Tue Jun-08-10 09:25 PM Response to Reply #56 |
87. NBC news did a segment tonight on "Growing Up Behind the Blockade in Gaza" |
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defendandprotect
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Tue Jun-08-10 10:23 PM Response to Reply #87 |
100. Nothing for me to feel proud of in Obama's failure to criticize Israel |
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earth mom
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Tue Jun-08-10 11:26 PM Response to Reply #56 |
111. Best reply on this thread! |
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WileEcoyote
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Tue Jun-08-10 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
68. One of the few posts on this subject that really "gets it". |
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dorkulon
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Tue Jun-08-10 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
81. That analogy isn't quite right. |
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Raineyb
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Wed Jun-09-10 09:15 AM Response to Reply #81 |
146. Israel is no victim here. |
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defendandprotect
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Wed Jun-09-10 01:52 PM Response to Reply #146 |
159. Besides US backing with money and weapons -- !!! Palestine has no military ... |
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JDPriestly
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Tue Jun-08-10 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
30. Helen Thomas was way, way out of line. |
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liberation
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Tue Jun-08-10 04:23 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. She should do all that... |
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Tue Jun-08-10 04:27 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Lolz... |
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AlbertCat
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Tue Jun-08-10 05:50 PM Response to Reply #34 |
48. "Suggesting that the Jews in Israel go back ... |
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B Whale
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Tue Jun-08-10 06:24 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. Yis there any other european country? .....why yes |
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JDPriestly
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Tue Jun-08-10 06:40 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. What European country did not persecute Jews for centuries? |
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defendandprotect
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Tue Jun-08-10 06:45 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. You have to understand that the basis of that ... |
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JDPriestly
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Tue Jun-08-10 06:56 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. I understand that very well. |
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defendandprotect
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Tue Jun-08-10 09:33 PM Response to Reply #64 |
90. Jews are immigrating to Germany - More Jews in Germany now that pre-WWII... |
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B Whale
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Tue Jun-08-10 06:56 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. hey hey easy. You asked a question, is there |
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liberation
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Tue Jun-08-10 08:10 PM Response to Reply #63 |
78. Apparently some people figure WWII is a carte blanche for them to be racist |
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defendandprotect
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Tue Jun-08-10 10:28 PM Response to Reply #78 |
103. Nice post . . . . |
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JDPriestly
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Wed Jun-09-10 12:50 AM Response to Reply #78 |
128. I lived in France. There are many Jews there. |
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liberation
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Wed Jun-09-10 11:48 AM Response to Reply #128 |
149. Dupe |
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liberation
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Wed Jun-09-10 11:48 AM Response to Reply #128 |
150. What is your definition of "safe?" |
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B Whale
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Wed Jun-09-10 08:13 PM Response to Reply #128 |
175. you have a screwed view of europe and european people |
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JDPriestly
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Thu Jun-10-10 03:01 AM Response to Reply #175 |
177. One of the great prime ministers in Austria was Jewish, but believe m |
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B Whale
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Fri Jun-11-10 05:39 AM Response to Reply #177 |
182. i would take your point about austria. i do believe austria has |
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defendandprotect
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Tue Jun-08-10 09:40 PM Response to Reply #63 |
92. Yes, you're correct . .. |
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JDPriestly
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Wed Jun-09-10 12:47 AM Response to Reply #63 |
127. Not all European people are anti-Jewish. But I lived there, |
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AlbertCat
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Wed Jun-09-10 09:51 AM Response to Reply #127 |
148. it impossible for Jewish people to live there and feel secure. |
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liberation
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Wed Jun-09-10 11:58 AM Response to Reply #127 |
152. And I lived in Europe too, and had plenty of Jewish friends who lived there all their lives |
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dflprincess
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Tue Jun-08-10 09:05 PM Response to Reply #59 |
83. Denmark deserves more credit than a "maybe" |
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liberation
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Wed Jun-09-10 12:11 PM Response to Reply #59 |
154. That is a very disingenuous question. |
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defendandprotect
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Wed Jun-09-10 01:58 PM Response to Reply #154 |
160. Evidently, Israeli Jews are returning to Germany and Israel isn't happy about that ... |
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defendandprotect
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Tue Jun-08-10 09:31 PM Response to Reply #48 |
89. Please see my post . . . here . . . |
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Tue Jun-08-10 10:24 PM Response to Reply #48 |
101. No Ashkenazim means no need for settlements |
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NorthCarolina
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Tue Jun-08-10 04:46 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. Negotiated Peace would require that the Israelis give up on expanding their territories |
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Bluebear
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Tue Jun-08-10 05:36 PM Response to Reply #30 |
45. 'And I suggest that any of you who' - ? |
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Lilith Velkor
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Tue Jun-08-10 06:30 PM Response to Reply #30 |
55. I didn't know the United States was a European country. |
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Tue Jun-08-10 11:34 PM Response to Reply #30 |
115. That's crap |
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tomp
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Wed Jun-09-10 08:34 AM Response to Reply #30 |
143. so where are the homelands for gypsies, homosexuals, political dissidents, and others? |
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defendandprotect
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Wed Jun-09-10 01:59 PM Response to Reply #143 |
161. +1000% |
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avaistheone1
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Tue Jun-08-10 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
35. Strongly recommended. |
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Tue Jun-08-10 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
36. How come the media never slams the Right? |
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liberation
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Tue Jun-08-10 04:49 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. it must be all that "liberal bias" or something... |
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Tue Jun-08-10 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
39. K & R |
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Safya
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Tue Jun-08-10 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
40. Very good |
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Darth_Kitten
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Tue Jun-08-10 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
41. Turn on your own to spare Israel.....always.... |
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Tue Jun-08-10 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
42. K&R |
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eagertolearn
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Tue Jun-08-10 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
43. In the passion of the moment it is easy to say what we are feeling |
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defendandprotect
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Tue Jun-08-10 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
44. What I see is a lot of support from the corporate MIC and then the lemming journalists follow.... |
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RetroLounge
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Tue Jun-08-10 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
47. K&R |
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WillyT
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Tue Jun-08-10 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
50. K & R !!! |
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Hannah Bell
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Tue Jun-08-10 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
52. k/r. the hypocrites. |
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Tue Jun-08-10 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
53. K&R -- Thank you, Robert Parry. Thanks Kpete for posting this. I support Helen Thomas |
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me b zola
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Tue Jun-08-10 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
57. K&R |
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Douglas Carpenter
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Tue Jun-08-10 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
58. kick and recommend!! |
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branders seine
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Tue Jun-08-10 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
60. here's a cheer for Ms. Thomas. |
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Tue Jun-08-10 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
62. One must wonder if Mr. Parry would be so quick to leap to Thomas' defense... |
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Raineyb
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Tue Jun-08-10 10:46 PM Response to Reply #62 |
106. I wonder if you would be so quick to condemn Helen Thomas if she went after |
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Tue Jun-08-10 11:44 PM Response to Reply #106 |
119. Yes, I would. |
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Tue Jun-08-10 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
67. Robert Parry, another of the few real journalists left in this |
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Tue Jun-08-10 07:37 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. she was a journalist they were more than happy to get rid of. |
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Tue Jun-08-10 10:28 PM Response to Reply #72 |
104. Good post, I think your view is shared by a majority of decent people. |
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Tue Jun-08-10 11:31 PM Response to Reply #104 |
112. Thank you, sabrina 1, it's nice to see someone else have decency about this issue. |
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Tue Jun-08-10 10:38 PM Response to Reply #72 |
105. Amy Goodman would be one guess for "next" . . . |
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Tue Jun-08-10 11:32 PM Response to Reply #105 |
114. sadly, you're spot on. she's fantastic. God protect her/good vibes! |
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Tue Jun-08-10 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
69. UIA loves her some Robert Parry |
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Tue Jun-08-10 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
70. So glad to see this post from Robert Parry defending Helen Thomas! |
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Tue Jun-08-10 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
71. Howard Kurtz sucks. Big Time. |
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Tue Jun-08-10 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
73. I thank Robert Parry for standing up for Helen. |
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Tue Jun-08-10 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
74. K&R |
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Tue Jun-08-10 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
76. I am glad that someone is articulate enough to write for Helen |
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Tue Jun-08-10 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
77. Helen needs all the people standing up for that she can muster. |
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Tue Jun-08-10 08:24 PM Response to Original message |
79. Isn't she entitled to her opinion, even if some view it as not "PC?" |
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Tue Jun-08-10 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
82. This was rotten, indeed. |
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Tue Jun-08-10 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
85. Why does most everyone including Parry mention Thomas' Lebanese background |
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Tue Jun-08-10 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
88. Here's some info I'm surprised at... Jews are immigrating to Germany . . . |
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Sun Jun-13-10 08:23 AM Response to Reply #88 |
184. Some are taking German citizenship... |
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Tue Jun-08-10 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
93. Excellent article. I stand with Helen Thomas. |
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Tue Jun-08-10 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
102. F*ck the |
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Tue Jun-08-10 10:56 PM Response to Reply #102 |
108. Really??? |
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HEyHEY
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Tue Jun-08-10 11:39 PM Response to Reply #108 |
118. Cause the Aliens controlling DU will melt your brain and feed it to oil companies |
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Wed Jun-09-10 01:11 AM Response to Reply #108 |
130. The blinding cataracts need to be removed from your eyes. |
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Wed Jun-09-10 12:58 PM Response to Reply #108 |
157. Because |
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Wed Jun-09-10 02:03 PM Response to Reply #108 |
163. Check the specific rules posted at "I/P" . . . |
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Wed Jun-09-10 03:01 PM Response to Reply #108 |
169. Apologies to CL455W4R. I meant my above post for another poster |
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Tue Jun-08-10 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
113. Hypocrisy |
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Wed Jun-09-10 12:04 AM Response to Original message |
120. I will forever stand with Helen Thomas..the Queen of truth! eom |
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Wed Jun-09-10 12:06 AM Response to Original message |
121. Sorry, her remark was simply common sense resolution, but what is the acceptable alternative? |
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Wed Jun-09-10 12:23 AM Response to Original message |
122. I stand with Helen...without the reservations of this post. |
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Wed Jun-09-10 12:26 AM Response to Original message |
123. Deleted message |
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Wed Jun-09-10 02:13 AM Response to Reply #123 |
132. What is Sensible Cities? |
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Wed Jun-09-10 04:44 AM Response to Original message |
137. Why all the hate? |
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Wed Jun-09-10 09:23 AM Response to Reply #137 |
147. Absolute bullshit excuse making. |
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Wed Jun-09-10 02:00 PM Response to Reply #147 |
162. Thank you for making my point |
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Wed Jun-09-10 02:07 PM Response to Reply #147 |
165. Bravo . . .!! Thank you -- !! |
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Wed Jun-09-10 02:05 PM Response to Reply #137 |
164. Minus 1000% -- Too much wrong with that post to get into . . . |
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Wed Jun-09-10 02:43 PM Response to Reply #164 |
167. So much for real discussion: |
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Wed Jun-09-10 03:35 PM Response to Reply #167 |
171. Yes, I am arguing for more honest discussion of "I/P" affairs . . . but not in the dungeon... |
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Wed Jun-09-10 04:57 PM Response to Reply #171 |
173. The legality of the blockade: |
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Wed Jun-09-10 09:14 PM Response to Reply #173 |
176. UN find the blockade of Gaza "illegal" . . . . |
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Thu Jun-10-10 09:48 AM Response to Reply #176 |
178. Navi Pillay's report is not a UN finding of illegality |
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Thu Jun-10-10 01:06 PM Response to Reply #178 |
179. "U.N. Human Rights Chief: Israel's Blockade of Gaza Strip Is Illegal" -- no rambling there ... |
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Thu Jun-10-10 02:49 PM Response to Reply #179 |
180. As I said, Pillay's report is not a UN finding of illegality: |
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Thu Jun-10-10 10:43 PM Response to Reply #180 |
181. As I've mentioned ... for the second time now ... |
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Fri Jun-11-10 08:59 AM Response to Reply #181 |
183. I see: |
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Wed Jun-09-10 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
172. Parry and Thomas stood up to Rev Moon, Bush and the rest of the Washington Mafia. |
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Sun Jun-13-10 08:24 AM Response to Original message |
185. Kicked (nt) |
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Sun Jun-13-10 08:33 AM Response to Original message |
187. Kick |
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Sun Jun-13-10 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
188. Kick |
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