Will the US be out of Iraq by 2012?

[ZombieHorde]

Poll question: Will the US be out of Iraq by 2012?

"The complete withdrawal of American forces will take place by December 2011, the period by which the U.S. agreed with Iraq to remove all troops."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/02/24/politics/100days/iraqafghanistan/main4825306.shtml

Here is a blast from the past, just for some fun: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tom-andrews/out-of-iraq-in16-months-y_b_161546.html

[Greyhound]

1. I'd like to be wrong. n/t

[Oceansaway]

2. Roses are red, they grow in this region

If we're out by 2012,
I'll join the French Foreign Legion....

[ZombieHorde]

4. Pretty good. nt

[WeDidIt]

5. They're going to eat you for lunch in the training

The French Foreign Legion is one bad ass organization and they're gonna rip you apart when you are forced to make good on that statement.

[phantom power]

3. I wonder why anybody would un-rec this poll.

[ZombieHorde]

15. Some people hate poetry and time lines. This poll has both. nt

[Soylent Brice]

6. my heart says yes, but my head says no.

K&R

[ZombieHorde]

16. I would be pleasantly surprised if the US was out of Iraq by 2012.

I remember the debate over the slightly different time lines presented by Obama and Clinton during the primaries, but it was all just a nice show.

[Soylent Brice]

23. i remember that very vivdly as well.

and i agree with your sentiment about being pleasantly surprised.

[The Northerner]

7. If Gitmo's closure will require about 3 years or more

then what are the chances that a withdrawal from Iraq is possible in 2012?

I'd like to think a withdrawal is possible by then but I have to remain somewhat skeptical.

[ZombieHorde]

18. Although Gitmo and the Iraq war involve different complications,

I agree with your skepticism.

[TheKentuckian]

8. Even Pollyanna say "Are you serious, I've got this beach front property in Nebraska

I need you to see".

[Oregone]

9. Why leave before an openly gay soldier can fight there?

:shrug:

[Coyote_Bandit]

10. To answer yes

I'd have to hope that things will change. But there is nothing to indicate that will happen and I've learned not to believe politicians that promise change.

[uponit7771]

11. The 50,000 troops will be in Iraq post 2012 no matter who's in office.

[nichomachus]

12. We have 700+ military bases in 63 countries

Why would we leave Iraq where we have just built a bunch of very expensive facilities? We aren't going anywhere. We will change the name and say "combat operations are over," but that's just bullshit.

[USArmyParatrooper]

19. A Bogus Comparison

Our Forward Operating Bases are already being converted to JSS's (Joint Security Station), which is a transition period to turn them over to the Iraqis. I've been on a variety of FOB's in Iraq, big and small, and none of them are even remotely comparable to an actual military base. Also, Iraq is not... NOT a duty station. It is a deployment.

[nichomachus]

26. It's the US govt's commitment to permanent war that is bogus

We are in the Mideast for the duration. Our strategic goal is to keep the ME destabilized.

[ZombieHorde]

24. Unfortunately, I think the scenario you describe is very likely. nt

[JonLP24]

25. More correctly

The TCNs built those bases.

[TheWatcher]

13. No, and we are never leaving.

We are not leaving Afghanistan either.

Enjoy your Bill Of Goods, America.

If this is what you so desperately want, fine.

We deserve whatever we get as a result.

[jp11]

14. Are private security forces part of the 'American forces' you speak of?

I doubt all American forces, private or not will be gone by then if we are lucky they might be removed from actively engaging in the campaign/security there but I don't think we'd ever leave completely. Plus all those American contractors out there making money, they aren't leaving, and they aren't staying without protection.

[ZombieHorde]

22. The article says...

"President Barack Obama plans to order that all U.S. combat troops be withdrawn from Iraq by August 2010"

and then

"The complete withdrawal of American forces will take place by December 2011"

So there are combat troops, and there are American forces. The article does mention "private security."

[MrSlayer]

17. No, we're never leaving.

Once we're there we never leave, like herpes.

[ZombieHorde]

27. Well there is a fun poll; "Does the US equal herpes?" nt

[USArmyParatrooper]

20. We've already greatly reduced the number that are there

I think by 2012 the numbers will be someone around 40,000 - 50,000 troops.

[Laelth]

21. No way. War is good for business. n/t

:dem:

-Laelth

[ZombieHorde]

29. Unfortunately, war is good for some businesses. nt

[Individualist]

28. No. DLC supports the military industrial complex.

[L0oniX]

30. Can we please out source the wars to China?

[ZombieHorde]

31. Funny. nt