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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 10:24 AM Original message |
Poll question: I submit that if you are of military age it is IMMORAL to support the war and NOT volunteer. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
1. Why? I hire a plumber to do my plumbing for me |
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Annces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
2. Agree |
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gravity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
3. Umm no |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 10:43 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. It would be hard to enforce, but I find it entirely reasonable. |
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gravity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 10:58 AM Response to Reply #6 |
18. I think the whole premise is absurd |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 11:03 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. You are not reading the whole concept... |
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gravity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 11:45 AM Response to Reply #19 |
28. You are punishing people based on their political views |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 11:53 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. The point of all this is to PREVENT this sort of nonsense in the future |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 11:52 AM Response to Reply #19 |
29. can't seem to find that in the constitution? perhaps we need an amendmenbt |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 01:05 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. NO, you're not reading it right. |
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colinmom71 (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 01:40 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. What you're proposing then... |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 02:31 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. It depends on how you hold "rights" and "responsibilities" |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 08:39 PM Response to Reply #37 |
51. Vote |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-15-07 05:26 AM Response to Reply #51 |
62. Of course not. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 10:47 AM Response to Reply #3 |
12. Hypocrisy is immoral. |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 11:03 AM Response to Reply #12 |
20. But not illegal and does not disqualify one from having and |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 11:56 AM Response to Reply #20 |
33. Nobody mentioned law. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
4. As long as we call ourselves a 'democracy' and our nation supports military forces ... |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
5. We are all free to be hypocrits, including/especially politicians. |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 10:45 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. You can participate in non-lethal issues through TAXES. |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 11:55 AM Response to Reply #9 |
32. Fair enough, but I participate in war by paying taxes, also. |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
7. I submit your poll is flawed on the basis of |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 10:50 AM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Those who WILL serve. |
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ATK (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 11:22 AM Response to Reply #13 |
24. I thought this was a free country where people made their choices |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 04:30 PM Response to Reply #13 |
49. I knew Buffy and Tad, Buffy and Tad were friends of mine... |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
8. Immoral and unworthy, maybe, but you're not suggesting revoking citizenship or voting rights... |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 10:53 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. If they can SUPPORT the war, then they HAVE TO SUPPORT THE WAR. |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 11:21 AM Response to Reply #14 |
23. I guess you'll have to clarify what you mean by "support." |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 12:01 PM Response to Reply #23 |
35. Forcing them is not the issue but just saying, they are immoral |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 12:53 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. I'm for that. Hell, I'll call them traitors. - n/t |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
10. "military age" |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 10:53 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. With universal service, that could top at say 30. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 08:51 PM Response to Reply #15 |
55. I found this |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
11. A lot of young republicans that supports this war but won't enlist themselves |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 10:55 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Exactly my point...but here's another solution: |
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Zywiec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 11:08 AM Response to Reply #11 |
21. As a member of the Army I wasn't aware of anyone not volunteering. |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 11:18 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Yeah, I can dig that...BUT: |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 08:31 PM Response to Reply #22 |
50. Lawful Orders |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-15-07 05:24 AM Response to Reply #50 |
61. This is true: HOWEVER as we said in the service... |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 11:25 AM Response to Reply #21 |
26. What I was trying to say is since they weren't drafted to go, |
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BrotherBuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 11:44 AM Response to Reply #21 |
27. I submit that enlisted men stung by stop loss or being recalled through IRR are... |
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jerryme1 (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
17. I had a similar conversation with a 34 year old war supporter the |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
25. Yep, I'm sick of big-talkin' do nothings |
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Balbus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
30. Well, I'm against the war, so am I IMMORAL because I do NOT |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 11:58 AM Response to Reply #30 |
34. NO! (and love the dancers.) |
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Balbus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 04:02 PM Response to Reply #34 |
46. But I'm also for universal healthcare... |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-15-07 05:22 AM Response to Reply #46 |
60. Why do people keep dragging this off subject? |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-15-07 08:41 AM Response to Reply #60 |
67. It is off the subject, only if you are the "decider" of what the subject is. |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-15-07 09:55 AM Response to Reply #67 |
68. I DID post the OP narrowly. |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-15-07 10:02 AM Response to Reply #68 |
70. My apologies for the Bushism insult. |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-15-07 10:04 AM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Thank you, but this was framed that way for a reason. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
38. Your post fails to give consideration to those who are not physically qualified |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 02:40 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. Try a dose of Reality Check. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 02:54 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. I'm not proposing anything, just stating an obvious deficiency in your OP |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-15-07 05:40 AM Response to Reply #44 |
63. Sorry, I just felt like I was being politely called an idiot. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-15-07 08:27 AM Response to Reply #63 |
65. I mention it mainly because I fall into that category |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-15-07 08:40 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. I'm a Navy Vet. n/t |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
39. Re the last choice |
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NoPasaran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
41. I pretty much agree with you |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 03:34 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. I think that there is an element of human nature at work. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
47. This Silly Illogical Nonsensical Absurd Irrational Unrealistic Argument Again? |
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madinmaryland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
48. What if the children of a chickenhawk are opposed to the war. |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
52. Agree especially if you're |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
53. To be precise |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
54. Actually, I'd prefer that a military age |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
56. This is a free country. You can support whatever you want |
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JANdad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
57. The right loves to spout |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
58. My neighbor's son who attends college is a staunch supporter for |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
59. Does that include the war in Afghanistan, and previous conflicts like Bosnia? |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-15-07 05:46 AM Response to Reply #59 |
64. I believe the OP is talking about Operation Iraq Liberation |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-15-07 09:56 AM Response to Reply #64 |
69. BINGO, and associate WARS of AGGRESSION. N/T |
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