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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 03:49 PM Original message |
I'm agreeing with Tucker Carlson |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
1. ? |
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Fridays Child (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I think the topic was hate crimes, if that helps. |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
2. Well, if YOU is the ruling elite, it's a whole other ballgame and TC knows that quite well. nt |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 04:05 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Bullshit |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 04:27 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. The warmongers aren't in prison, are they? And the war is illegal. nt |
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Sapere aude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 04:29 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. More resources? Is that what the law does? Give more resources to investigate hate crimes? |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 05:08 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. YES, that is what the law does. |
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BOSSHOG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
4. An interesting topic |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
5. Would you change your mind |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 04:06 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. No, I would not change my mind. |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
8. Funny the topic comes up.. |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 05:13 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. Nothing funny about it. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
9. We Arrest People for Their Actions - Not Their Thoughts |
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submerged99 (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 04:22 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Why are there degrees of crimes in court? |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 04:28 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. So that rich people can get off easily. nt |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 05:14 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Because you can ACCIDENTALLY shoot someone. |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 05:48 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. What if I beat you to death in the heat of passion....... |
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submerged99 (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 06:52 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. can't delete n/t |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 07:06 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. My post was aimed at ATMAN. n/t |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 07:11 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. That's ok. No worries. I'll kick this again because I want to hear the OP's views on ...... |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 05:29 PM Response to Reply #11 |
22. Intent is not motive. And that's the legal distinction. |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 05:50 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. What if you kill someone, on purpose, in the heat of passion.... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 05:50 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. And it should be illegal to intentionally beat minorities. |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 07:30 PM Response to Reply #28 |
42. It is already illegal to intentially beat ANYBODY. |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 08:00 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. But the sentences are stiffer depending on motive. |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 08:37 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Which I did, in fact, acknowledge very plainly! |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 09:13 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Arrrrgh....there you go with the "thought crime" bull.... |
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submerged99 (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 07:07 PM Response to Reply #22 |
39. my mistake |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
10. I can't listen to his shit long enough to agree or disagree |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
18. no one is likely to drag Tucker behind a car for being white, or beat him to death for being hetero |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 05:17 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. But one could do it for his being an obnoxious asshole pundit. |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 05:25 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. well, thing is, hate crime legislation doesn't really take away any rights |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 05:50 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. But this bill gives MORE resources to police to prosecute crimes against gays |
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Huskerchub (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 06:21 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. well whoppiti damn ding dong... |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 06:30 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. What, exactly, is the "special right"? Do I get secret service protection? |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 06:48 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Oh for christ sake, get real. |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 07:04 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. I didn't ask you about resources. I specifically asked you about 'rights.' |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 07:29 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. You simply are not getting what this bill proposes -- RESOURCES. |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 09:30 PM Response to Reply #26 |
49. ah finally "extra rights" |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 05:26 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. because he is neither |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 05:29 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. creepy |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 05:49 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Damn, you beat me. |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
29. Kind of Not the Point |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 06:54 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. Hiding seems to suit you. |
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liberalEd (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
34. Then I disagree with both of you |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 07:00 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. You're equating MURDER with an accident. |
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liberalEd (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 08:14 PM Response to Reply #36 |
45. Only to make one point |
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Matsubara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
44. I'm against hate crime legislation, too. |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 09:15 PM Response to Original message |
48. I'd rather eat my own face than agree with tucker carlson. |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 09:33 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Me too. That's why I thought it was noteworthy enough to post about! |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 09:37 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. .. |
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