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proud2BlibKansan
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Wed Aug-11-10 08:21 AM Original message |
Sheriff uses food stamp applications to find people with felony warrants |
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Hubert Flottz
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Wed Aug-11-10 08:24 AM Response to Original message |
1. "felony warrants" |
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NoSheep
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Wed Aug-11-10 10:34 AM Response to Reply #1 |
77. Ding! |
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SoCalDem
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Wed Aug-11-10 03:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
246. Stripping it down to the nugget |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 08:25 AM Response to Original message |
2. oh lovely |
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lunatica
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Wed Aug-11-10 08:34 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. “probation violation, forgery like bad checks, drug warrants, stealing.” |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 08:53 AM Response to Reply #5 |
21. do you want the local law enforcement looking through your food stamp app? |
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lunatica
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Wed Aug-11-10 09:17 AM Response to Reply #21 |
34. You miss the point by a mile |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 09:43 AM Response to Reply #34 |
50. can you answer my question? |
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Massacure
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Wed Aug-11-10 10:28 AM Response to Reply #50 |
73. Who said law enforcement is going through your app? |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 10:35 AM Response to Reply #73 |
79. you doubt? |
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SwampG8r
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:55 AM Response to Reply #50 |
151. i dont |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 12:09 PM Response to Reply #151 |
160. I have no problems with felons going to jail (for the sake of this discussion |
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SecularMotion
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Wed Aug-11-10 12:33 PM Response to Reply #151 |
172. Of course the government would never use our tax records |
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KamaAina
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Wed Aug-11-10 12:38 PM Response to Reply #172 |
176. Not to mention that those would help them find white-collar felons |
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Donnachaidh
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Wed Aug-11-10 09:53 AM Response to Reply #34 |
53. so it's okay to starve families because of one person's possible problems? |
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msanthrope
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Wed Aug-11-10 09:57 AM Response to Reply #53 |
57. Can you point to where the families starve? |
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proud2BlibKansan
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Wed Aug-11-10 10:20 AM Response to Reply #57 |
67. Gee if you had a felony warrant and your kids were hungry, would you apply for food stamps? |
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Nuclear Unicorn
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Wed Aug-11-10 10:57 AM Response to Reply #67 |
96. If I had kids to support I'd do my best not to do anything that would get |
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pipi_k
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:08 AM Response to Reply #96 |
102. How dare you!!! |
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msanthrope
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Wed Aug-11-10 02:59 PM Response to Reply #67 |
231. Actually, I'd turn myself in, and then my family could apply |
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proud2BlibKansan
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Wed Aug-11-10 10:19 AM Response to Reply #53 |
66. +1 |
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SecularMotion
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Wed Aug-11-10 09:16 AM Response to Reply #5 |
31. So everyone getting food stamps with a felony warrant |
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lunatica
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Wed Aug-11-10 09:20 AM Response to Reply #31 |
37. You're the one using a broad brush. I used a factual example |
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SecularMotion
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Wed Aug-11-10 09:28 AM Response to Reply #37 |
40. You used a worse case scenario, an extreme one at that |
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lunatica
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Wed Aug-11-10 09:34 AM Response to Reply #40 |
47. I used a factual example of a felon who had violated parole |
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SecularMotion
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Wed Aug-11-10 09:38 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Do you know the difference between "factual example" and "worse case scenario"? |
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proud2BlibKansan
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Wed Aug-11-10 10:17 AM Response to Reply #5 |
64. Were they on food stamps? |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 10:36 AM Response to Reply #64 |
82. zing! |
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Supply Side Jesus
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Wed Aug-11-10 07:13 PM Response to Reply #5 |
287. but but but but but |
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truebrit71
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Wed Aug-11-10 08:37 AM Response to Reply #2 |
9. These are for felony warrants, not speeding tickets.. |
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leftynyc
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Wed Aug-11-10 09:54 AM Response to Reply #9 |
55. Me neither |
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Statistical
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Wed Aug-11-10 08:50 AM Response to Reply #2 |
18. Felons have no RIGHT to avoid incarceration. |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 08:55 AM Response to Reply #18 |
23. do non-felons have any right to NOT having police look through their data? |
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Statistical
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Wed Aug-11-10 09:17 AM Response to Reply #23 |
35. Unlikely. I guess it is a matter for the courts but pesonally I don't think so. |
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lunatica
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Wed Aug-11-10 09:23 AM Response to Reply #23 |
39. Do you have a driver's license? |
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pipi_k
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Wed Aug-11-10 09:43 AM Response to Reply #39 |
49. Just wondering... |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 09:49 AM Response to Reply #39 |
51. drivers licenses are a special case, and others have and expectation of privacy |
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Lance_Boyle
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Wed Aug-11-10 09:58 AM Response to Reply #51 |
60. What rights are violated by this apparently effective tool for locating people with felony warrants? |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 10:15 AM Response to Reply #60 |
63. like I said in reply #2 |
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Lance_Boyle
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Wed Aug-11-10 10:26 AM Response to Reply #63 |
72. that's trite, but inapplicable. |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 10:38 AM Response to Reply #72 |
83. my entire point is about the rights of the rest of us |
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Lance_Boyle
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Wed Aug-11-10 10:47 AM Response to Reply #83 |
92. when you apply to the govt for aid, you cannot expect privacy FROM that govt. |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 10:53 AM Response to Reply #92 |
94. bullshit |
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Nuclear Unicorn
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:42 AM Response to Reply #94 |
140. On this I would agree. |
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SwampG8r
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Wed Aug-11-10 12:02 PM Response to Reply #94 |
155. where in that article does it say US department of Agriculture?no where |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 12:11 PM Response to Reply #155 |
163. uh, food stamps are USDA |
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Lance_Boyle
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Wed Aug-11-10 01:10 PM Response to Reply #163 |
188. Guess what else is administered locally but gets federal dollars? |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 01:16 PM Response to Reply #188 |
190. what is your point? |
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Lance_Boyle
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Wed Aug-11-10 01:21 PM Response to Reply #188 |
191. Really, kali? My point is that wanted felons should not get food stamps |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 01:34 PM Response to Reply #191 |
193. what is so hard about understanding that the rest of the food stamp applicants/recipients |
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Lance_Boyle
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Wed Aug-11-10 01:39 PM Response to Reply #193 |
194. You clearly do not understand how this works. |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 01:44 PM Response to Reply #194 |
196. I do not think the sheriff should have access to the list of food stamp applicants. |
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Lance_Boyle
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Wed Aug-11-10 01:52 PM Response to Reply #196 |
198. What if the sheriff doesn't have that access? |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 01:58 PM Response to Reply #198 |
203. it sounds a bit better |
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Nuclear Unicorn
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Wed Aug-11-10 02:48 PM Response to Reply #203 |
226. I can agree to this as well. |
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pipoman
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Wed Aug-11-10 06:50 PM Response to Reply #193 |
283. Jeeez, you keep spouting this... |
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Nuclear Unicorn
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Wed Aug-11-10 09:29 AM Response to Reply #23 |
42. You make a good point but then again |
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proud2BlibKansan
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Wed Aug-11-10 10:22 AM Response to Reply #42 |
70. And their kids are just out of luck |
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pipi_k
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Wed Aug-11-10 10:31 AM Response to Reply #70 |
74. Well, if the felonious parent is the one with custody... |
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Nuclear Unicorn
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Wed Aug-11-10 10:41 AM Response to Reply #70 |
86. What about law-abiding citizens who are turned down for food stamps for lack of funding? |
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pipi_k
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Wed Aug-11-10 10:47 AM Response to Reply #86 |
91. Applause!!! |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 10:56 AM Response to Reply #86 |
95. nobody gets turned down for "lack of funding" |
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Nuclear Unicorn
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:09 AM Response to Reply #95 |
103. The whole argument about kids is a strawman |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:15 AM Response to Reply #103 |
108. I agree. The argument is about the (lack of) rights of poor people. |
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Nuclear Unicorn
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:19 AM Response to Reply #108 |
111. If a cop can ask for my ID for a blown brake light and use it to presumably look for warrants |
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JonLP24
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:24 AM Response to Reply #111 |
114. That is different |
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Nuclear Unicorn
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:27 AM Response to Reply #114 |
121. Probable cause for what? |
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JonLP24
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:30 AM Response to Reply #121 |
126. Sorry I thought |
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Nuclear Unicorn
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:33 AM Response to Reply #126 |
130. I once was (I was 17, and scared out of my mind, BTW) |
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Statistical
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:29 AM Response to Reply #114 |
125. No he didn't. |
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JonLP24
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:31 AM Response to Reply #125 |
127. It is probable cause to pull someone over |
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Statistical
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:36 AM Response to Reply #127 |
134. Not true. |
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JonLP24
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:40 AM Response to Reply #134 |
137. I didn't make myself clear |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:58 AM Response to Reply #111 |
153. driving is not a right |
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Nuclear Unicorn
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Wed Aug-11-10 12:22 PM Response to Reply #153 |
167. Neither is getting food stamps when you're a wanted felon |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 12:28 PM Response to Reply #167 |
169. some of us feel that having enough to eat IS a right |
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Nuclear Unicorn
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Wed Aug-11-10 12:57 PM Response to Reply #169 |
180. Why can't there be racist unethical buttholes at the USDA? |
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FirstLight
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:24 AM Response to Reply #108 |
115. +1000 |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 12:17 PM Response to Reply #115 |
164. "poverty usually causes a revolving door for problems with the law and lack of employment" |
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FirstLight
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Wed Aug-11-10 12:30 PM Response to Reply #164 |
170. here's another one: |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 12:49 PM Response to Reply #170 |
177. there are SOME well-off people who can understand |
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JonLP24
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Wed Aug-11-10 12:54 PM Response to Reply #177 |
178. Your post reminded me of something |
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FirstLight
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Wed Aug-11-10 01:00 PM Response to Reply #177 |
182. and my exhusband is a felon... |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 01:06 PM Response to Reply #182 |
185. well |
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SwampG8r
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Wed Aug-11-10 12:05 PM Response to Reply #95 |
157. this starves families . |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 12:19 PM Response to Reply #157 |
165. huh? |
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Hangingon
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:39 AM Response to Reply #70 |
135. In a two parent fanily the other parent would still receive |
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SwampG8r
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Wed Aug-11-10 12:03 PM Response to Reply #70 |
156. where does it say |
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Bunny
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Wed Aug-11-10 09:30 AM Response to Reply #18 |
43. Where does it say that any of these people were convicted? |
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Wed Aug-11-10 09:32 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Felon warrant means they were given due process but chose to illegally avoid the courts. |
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Nuclear Unicorn
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Wed Aug-11-10 09:33 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. But a warrant means they should be arrested |
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Bunny
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Wed Aug-11-10 10:33 AM Response to Reply #46 |
76. I know what a warrant means. |
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Statistical
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:46 AM Response to Reply #76 |
143. It wasn't erroneous. |
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Donnachaidh
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Wed Aug-11-10 09:54 AM Response to Reply #18 |
54. so entire families take the hit for one person? |
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pipi_k
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Wed Aug-11-10 09:58 AM Response to Reply #54 |
59. I don't know...did the article say |
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Donnachaidh
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Wed Aug-11-10 10:13 AM Response to Reply #59 |
62. what is this - kindergarden? Do you HONESTLY think a parent |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 10:18 AM Response to Reply #62 |
65. bingFUCKINGgo |
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proud2BlibKansan
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Wed Aug-11-10 10:23 AM Response to Reply #62 |
71. Amen |
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pipi_k
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Wed Aug-11-10 10:44 AM Response to Reply #62 |
89. Some will and some won't |
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Nuclear Unicorn
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:21 AM Response to Reply #62 |
113. Apparently some do |
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Statistical
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:41 AM Response to Reply #62 |
139. Crooks aren't the smartest people. |
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pipi_k
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:54 AM Response to Reply #139 |
150. One of my guilty pleasures... |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 12:32 PM Response to Reply #150 |
171. because infotainment teevee is such a great place to form judgments |
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Hannah Bell
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Wed Aug-11-10 01:07 PM Response to Reply #171 |
186. +100. & that's why they put that crap out, to encourage those kinds of judgements. |
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JonLP24
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Wed Aug-11-10 01:12 PM Response to Reply #186 |
189. Partially why I won't watch "Cops" |
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Hannah Bell
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Wed Aug-11-10 01:57 PM Response to Reply #189 |
202. same here. i also don't enjoy racist, classist propaganda purveyed by a surveillance state |
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pipi_k
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Wed Aug-11-10 02:13 PM Response to Reply #186 |
208. It's magic...truly it is.... |
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Hannah Bell
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Wed Aug-11-10 09:49 PM Response to Reply #208 |
291. the middle classes are stupid, most of them, as well. |
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pipi_k
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Wed Aug-11-10 02:06 PM Response to Reply #171 |
206. A "class of people"? |
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Hannah Bell
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Wed Aug-11-10 02:16 PM Response to Reply #206 |
209. street crime is a class-based phenomemon. |
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pipi_k
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Wed Aug-11-10 02:55 PM Response to Reply #209 |
228. I don't make a distinction between "classes" of criminals |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 03:02 PM Response to Reply #228 |
233. we can tell |
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pipi_k
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Thu Aug-12-10 11:04 AM Response to Reply #233 |
299. I think you do not understand what I meant |
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Hannah Bell
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Wed Aug-11-10 03:55 PM Response to Reply #228 |
247. you're just so gosh-darn unbiased & neutral & fair & all that good stuff. |
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pipi_k
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Thu Aug-12-10 11:11 AM Response to Reply #247 |
300. Not exactly, dear... |
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JonLP24
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Wed Aug-11-10 02:27 PM Response to Reply #206 |
213. I actually |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 02:32 PM Response to Reply #206 |
215. I mean the whole group of people you lump into the category |
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pipi_k
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Wed Aug-11-10 04:48 PM Response to Reply #215 |
260. Just wondering how |
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:53 AM Response to Reply #54 |
147. How do the families take a hit? |
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Lil Missy
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Wed Aug-11-10 12:09 PM Response to Reply #54 |
159. False premise - families would not be disqualified for food stamps if one member is arrested. |
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uncommon
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Wed Aug-11-10 10:21 AM Response to Reply #18 |
68. Exactly what I was thinking. You want public services? Be prepared to be held accountable |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 10:42 AM Response to Reply #68 |
87. or you need help? |
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uncommon
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:42 AM Response to Reply #87 |
141. They should still be able to get services, but I don't think they should expect to be able to hide |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 12:37 PM Response to Reply #141 |
175. "Why would anyone care who has nothing to hide?" |
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babylonsister
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Wed Aug-11-10 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
3. Ugh. This is disgusting. Makes my head hurt. So now, |
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pipi_k
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Wed Aug-11-10 08:44 AM Response to Reply #3 |
14. That's not the point... |
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babylonsister
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Wed Aug-11-10 08:48 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Food stamp applications used to find criminals. |
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pipi_k
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Wed Aug-11-10 08:56 AM Response to Reply #16 |
25. The only ones "abusing the system" |
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JonLP24
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Wed Aug-11-10 08:54 AM Response to Reply #14 |
22. I don't exactly have a problem with this |
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pipi_k
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Wed Aug-11-10 09:02 AM Response to Reply #22 |
28. Actually, yes, I should have clarified... |
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JonLP24
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Wed Aug-11-10 09:09 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Ok |
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Lil Missy
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Wed Aug-11-10 08:55 AM Response to Reply #3 |
24. no, that's not what it means. It does mean felony warrant = arrest. warrants are issued for crimes. |
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slackmaster
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Wed Aug-11-10 10:39 AM Response to Reply #3 |
84. That's not how I see it |
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Renew Deal
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Wed Aug-11-10 10:43 AM Response to Reply #3 |
88. That's not what it says |
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Donnachaidh
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Wed Aug-11-10 08:29 AM Response to Original message |
4. unbelievable -- so now we're going to let people starve because of warrants? |
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stray cat
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Wed Aug-11-10 08:37 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Much better to pay others money for not finding people? |
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lunatica
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Wed Aug-11-10 08:37 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. With police departments being cut to the quick, what would you do? |
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piratefish08
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Wed Aug-11-10 08:52 AM Response to Reply #10 |
20. Rule Book for Catching Felons - Rule 1 - Go to Wall St and Congress. |
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JonLP24
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Wed Aug-11-10 08:59 AM Response to Reply #20 |
27. Those guys at Wall St |
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lunatica
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Wed Aug-11-10 09:29 AM Response to Reply #20 |
41. How many of those people are actual felons? |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 01:08 PM Response to Reply #41 |
187. how many food stamp recipients are wanted felons? |
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Lil Missy
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Wed Aug-11-10 08:57 AM Response to Reply #4 |
26. where did it say that? Oh, it didn't say that. |
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Wed Aug-11-10 09:51 AM Response to Reply #26 |
52. sorry you can't make the connection |
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pipi_k
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Wed Aug-11-10 10:05 AM Response to Reply #52 |
61. It's not hard to tell |
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Lil Missy
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Wed Aug-11-10 12:01 PM Response to Reply #52 |
154. I'm glad I don't think like you. If there is a warrant for your arrest, you get fed in jail. |
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JonLP24
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Wed Aug-11-10 02:18 PM Response to Reply #154 |
210. Easy there |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 02:36 PM Response to Reply #210 |
217. is that right? |
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Nuclear Unicorn
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Wed Aug-11-10 09:32 AM Response to Reply #4 |
44. Prisons serve food. |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 10:50 AM Response to Reply #44 |
93. this isn't about saving money |
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Nuclear Unicorn
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:17 AM Response to Reply #93 |
109. Well thank goodness the public support system has reached a point of perfection |
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Wed Aug-11-10 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
6. Well, if Mom & Dad are in jail, |
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:47 AM Response to Reply #6 |
144. If Mom and Dad are felons, should they be raising kids? |
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Wed Aug-11-10 08:36 AM Response to Original message |
7. Why in the world would be want to arrest people who have felony warrants |
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Wed Aug-11-10 08:50 AM Response to Reply #7 |
17. It's an outrage, I tell ya!!!!! |
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Wed Aug-11-10 08:39 AM Response to Original message |
11. Any info from restaurants or stores to capture escaped convicts should be inadmissable? |
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Wed Aug-11-10 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
12. I don't see a problem with this. |
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Upton
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Wed Aug-11-10 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
13. These felons can eat in jail.. |
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Wed Aug-11-10 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
15. What is the problem? |
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pipi_k
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Wed Aug-11-10 09:55 AM Response to Reply #15 |
56. I guess it's only "fair" |
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Renew Deal
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Wed Aug-11-10 10:46 AM Response to Reply #15 |
90. The potential problem is the information sharing. |
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Nuclear Unicorn
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:24 AM Response to Reply #90 |
117. What information could possibly be shared? |
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:27 AM Response to Reply #117 |
120. The fact that the information is shared in the first place is the issue. |
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Nuclear Unicorn
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:31 AM Response to Reply #120 |
128. Should the DMV look for driving prohibitions before issuing a license? |
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:34 AM Response to Reply #120 |
132. Of course they can and routinely do. |
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msanthrope
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Wed Aug-11-10 03:15 PM Response to Reply #120 |
239. That's an excellent question....can government agencies share info? |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 12:54 PM Response to Reply #117 |
179. "employers get tax credits for hiring people on public support" |
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Wed Aug-11-10 01:48 PM Response to Reply #179 |
197. My brother is a restaurant manager and he has to fill out form for all new hires |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 02:10 PM Response to Reply #197 |
207. mea culpa |
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Nuclear Unicorn
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Wed Aug-11-10 02:19 PM Response to Reply #207 |
211. No need for a mea culpa. We aren't arguing just sharing info |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 02:40 PM Response to Reply #211 |
219. I can admit when I am wwwrrrr...wwwrrrr rrrooo |
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Nuclear Unicorn
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Wed Aug-11-10 02:46 PM Response to Reply #219 |
224. Except you weren't wrong |
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Wed Aug-11-10 08:51 AM Response to Original message |
19. What is this world coming to when a felon can't even apply for government benefits |
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Wed Aug-11-10 09:08 AM Response to Reply #19 |
29. Beats me...I heard recently that |
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Wed Aug-11-10 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
32. Really rather clever--although it bothers me |
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Wed Aug-11-10 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
33. The primary issue is that info. used for food stamps is being given to law enforcement. |
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Yo_Mama
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Wed Aug-11-10 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
36. It's a public record |
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Wed Aug-11-10 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
38. Would people be as upset if they were using tax returns to find white collar criminals? n/t |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 10:32 AM Response to Reply #38 |
75. there is a hell of a lot less info on a tax return than a food stamp app |
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Wed Aug-11-10 10:34 AM Response to Reply #75 |
78. I've filled out a food stamp application - there were no interviews, letters, medical information or |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:02 AM Response to Reply #78 |
97. so have I, and that information WAS requested |
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Wed Aug-11-10 10:35 AM Response to Reply #75 |
80. So...no? n/t |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:06 AM Response to Reply #80 |
100. none of the local sheriff's biz, ya know? |
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:13 AM Response to Reply #100 |
107. Not sure why you're getting angry, Kali...it was just a question. |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:21 AM Response to Reply #107 |
112. I do not understand your statement. |
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:26 AM Response to Reply #112 |
119. I originally asked if people would be as upset if tax returns were used to |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 01:03 PM Response to Reply #119 |
183. and I said they were not even in the realm of the same thing |
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:52 PM Response to Reply #183 |
293. "I do think looking though tax returns in the hopes of finding crooks is wrong" |
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:28 AM Response to Reply #112 |
122. What is wrong with law & order? |
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JonLP24
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:55 AM Response to Reply #122 |
152. My issues with this |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 01:29 PM Response to Reply #122 |
192. nothing wrong with law and order |
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pipi_k
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:32 AM Response to Reply #112 |
129. You know who's selfish and unthinking about others? |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 01:41 PM Response to Reply #129 |
195. I agree that some criminals are selfish and unthinking |
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Wed Aug-11-10 02:36 PM Response to Reply #195 |
216. Again, I'm not talking about a guy |
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Wed Aug-11-10 02:41 PM Response to Reply #216 |
220. There you go with that scary felon word |
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pipi_k
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Wed Aug-11-10 02:48 PM Response to Reply #220 |
225. Let me just clarify for you |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 03:05 PM Response to Reply #225 |
234. except just a few post upthread |
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Thu Aug-12-10 11:00 AM Response to Reply #234 |
298. OMG...off with my head!!! |
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:05 AM Response to Reply #75 |
99. the information asked for on an application... |
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:08 AM Response to Reply #99 |
101. Deleted message |
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:12 AM Response to Reply #101 |
106. Have no idea what you mean... |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:28 AM Response to Reply #106 |
124. lots of problems with what you wrote |
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:35 AM Response to Reply #124 |
133. Not if I had outstanding felony warrants. n/t |
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:39 AM Response to Reply #124 |
136. Well, seeing as |
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JonLP24
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Wed Aug-11-10 12:08 PM Response to Reply #136 |
158. Well Arpaio isn't only interested in crimes |
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JonLP24
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Wed Aug-11-10 12:33 PM Response to Reply #158 |
173. I almost forgot |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 01:55 PM Response to Reply #136 |
201. I know this will be hard but there are principles involved that have nothing to do with |
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Wed Aug-11-10 02:28 PM Response to Reply #201 |
214. How does a felon being tracked down by food stamp application |
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:19 AM Response to Reply #101 |
110. "are you sure you are on the right site?" What are you implying, Kali? |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:24 AM Response to Reply #110 |
116. so is that |
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:28 AM Response to Reply #116 |
123. No idea what rule you think I'm breaking, but use the "Alert" function and let the Mods decide. n/t |
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Wed Aug-11-10 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
58. That guy's a fuckin' peach, ain't he? |
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Wed Aug-11-10 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
69. Don't want to be caught, don't break the damn law. |
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:34 AM Response to Reply #69 |
131. Like sodomy laws? |
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:48 AM Response to Reply #131 |
145. In what state is sodomy (between consenting adults) a felony? |
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:54 AM Response to Reply #131 |
149. Even before Lawrence v. Texas, sodomy was not a felony anywhere AFAIK |
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Wed Aug-11-10 12:21 PM Response to Reply #149 |
166. It was a felony |
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NoSheep
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Wed Aug-11-10 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
81. Why not? The Bush administration used No Child Left Behind to identify potential cannon fodder. |
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Wed Aug-11-10 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
85. Is that type of information sharing legal? |
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Tommy_Carcetti
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
98. Looks like Joe Arapio has competition. nt |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:09 AM Response to Reply #98 |
104. ... |
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
105. It's implying that people on food stamps are a good place to look |
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:26 AM Response to Reply #105 |
118. Apparently that implication is correct. It's one of many potential places to look for fugitives. |
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Nuclear Unicorn
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:40 AM Response to Reply #118 |
138. Imagine the implications at the DMV |
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Wed Aug-11-10 12:09 PM Response to Reply #138 |
161. No doubt a blanket check of everyone who gets a DL renewal would eventually catch most fugitives |
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Wed Aug-11-10 12:28 PM Response to Reply #161 |
168. Yes, but apparently there are plenty of criminals |
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JonLP24
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Wed Aug-11-10 12:35 PM Response to Reply #161 |
174. Or live in Arizona |
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Wed Aug-11-10 03:34 PM Response to Reply #118 |
245. But it discourages people from applying for food stamps |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 05:00 PM Response to Reply #245 |
262. oh who cares? |
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Thu Aug-12-10 10:35 AM Response to Reply #245 |
295. If you are going to quote or paraprhrase what I wrote, at least have the decency to do it accurately |
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
142. Very good. (nt) |
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Lucian
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
146. Absolutely disgusting. |
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Wed Aug-11-10 11:54 AM Response to Reply #146 |
148. Why? Care to clarify? |
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Lucian
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Wed Aug-11-10 01:05 PM Response to Reply #148 |
184. I shouldn't have to clarify this here on a Democratic board. |
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Wed Aug-11-10 02:02 PM Response to Reply #184 |
205. that one's pretty familiar |
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SpartanDem
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Wed Aug-11-10 02:41 PM Response to Reply #184 |
221. Wanting felons to stay on the street |
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Wed Aug-11-10 03:09 PM Response to Reply #221 |
235. Targeting the poor and assuming they're felons is the wrong way to do it. |
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Wed Aug-11-10 03:20 PM Response to Reply #235 |
241. No one is "targeting" anyone: they are checking a list of people receiving a public benefit against |
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Wed Aug-11-10 03:20 PM Response to Reply #235 |
242. They're not targeting the poor |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 03:10 PM Response to Reply #221 |
237. yes |
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SpartanDem
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Wed Aug-11-10 03:29 PM Response to Reply #237 |
244. What liberties are they losing |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 04:10 PM Response to Reply #244 |
249. privacy |
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Wed Aug-11-10 04:28 PM Response to Reply #249 |
253. You have no expectation of privacy when providing information to the govt willingly. |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 04:40 PM Response to Reply #253 |
258. sorry |
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pipi_k
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Wed Aug-11-10 05:24 PM Response to Reply #258 |
266. 'Scuse me, but... |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 05:32 PM Response to Reply #266 |
268. It is clear that you have a problem comprehending the big picture. |
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Wed Aug-11-10 05:37 PM Response to Reply #268 |
270. "Last time for you" |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 05:55 PM Response to Reply #270 |
274. what, no rude eye rollies for the other person in a two way |
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Wed Aug-11-10 06:37 PM Response to Reply #274 |
281. nope, none for them, just for you. |
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Wed Aug-11-10 06:01 PM Response to Reply #268 |
276. You have my sympathies, really |
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Wed Aug-11-10 05:11 PM Response to Reply #249 |
264. How do you even know |
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Wed Aug-11-10 05:50 PM Response to Reply #264 |
273. even one case of spying would be the proof that what I am saying is right |
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Wed Aug-11-10 06:56 PM Response to Reply #273 |
284. You've definitely got the worst of all these various exchanges you've had in this thread. |
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Thu Aug-12-10 10:56 AM Response to Reply #273 |
296. So one cop/sheriff spying means they're all spying? |
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Wed Aug-11-10 02:42 PM Response to Reply #184 |
222. It speaks nothing about the replier's "character": it speaks volumes about your refusal to answer a |
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Wed Aug-11-10 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
162. Good! The criminal gets fed in jail, and more food for the rest of the family! |
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Wed Aug-11-10 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
181. welcome to the surveillance state. if you apply for any kind of assistance, this can happen. |
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Wed Aug-11-10 01:54 PM Response to Reply #181 |
199. Why would you want potentially dangerous people lving amongst |
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Wed Aug-11-10 01:59 PM Response to Reply #199 |
204. you don't get it. it's not just about "potentially dangerous people". i have no objection to |
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Wed Aug-11-10 02:23 PM Response to Reply #199 |
212. your use of the word "potentially" is the problem |
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Wed Aug-11-10 02:43 PM Response to Reply #212 |
223. I'm thinking people with outstanding felony warrants |
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Wed Aug-11-10 02:58 PM Response to Reply #223 |
230. trying to get shelter is not the same thing as trying to buy a gun or a license |
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Wed Aug-11-10 03:59 PM Response to Reply #212 |
248. They did wait for evidence. |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 06:37 PM Response to Reply #248 |
280. did applying for assistance cause a a look? |
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Wed Aug-11-10 08:18 PM Response to Reply #280 |
290. +100. in a shelter the justification for checking for warrants is -- letting potentially dangerous |
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Wed Aug-11-10 05:18 PM Response to Reply #181 |
265. I have had to apply a couple times in my life. (medical emergencies) |
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Wed Aug-11-10 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
200. KC metro law enforcement is an OPPRESSIVE force to that community |
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Wed Aug-11-10 02:40 PM Response to Reply #200 |
218. Not true. I grew up in Overland Park, and I never had an encounter with KCPD that wasn't a model of |
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Wed Aug-11-10 02:59 PM Response to Reply #218 |
232. How presumptuous of you. So, just because your dealings with them |
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Wed Aug-11-10 03:17 PM Response to Reply #232 |
240. How many encounters have *YOU* had with KCPD? That many, huh?..... |
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Wed Aug-11-10 04:15 PM Response to Reply #240 |
251. Your insinuation is laughable and quite childish. |
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Wed Aug-11-10 05:59 PM Response to Reply #251 |
275. "laughable," "quite childish," "plain stupid" - What a lovely set of logical, adult factual content |
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Wed Aug-11-10 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
227. I don't see the problem they're felons |
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Wed Aug-11-10 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
229. After reading many of the replies on this thread, I'm apalled |
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Wed Aug-11-10 03:14 PM Response to Reply #229 |
238. Because food stamp applicants are attempting to get benefits that are paid for by everyone, |
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Wed Aug-11-10 04:14 PM Response to Reply #238 |
250. even the poor have a right to privacy. This is clear misuse |
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Wed Aug-11-10 04:23 PM Response to Reply #250 |
252. *PUBLIC* assistance is a strange place to divulge *PRIVATE* information |
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Wed Aug-11-10 04:36 PM Response to Reply #250 |
256. The fact that they applied for food stamps is and must remain PUBLIC information |
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Wed Aug-11-10 04:34 PM Response to Reply #229 |
254. Data is no longer private once you give it to the government. |
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Wed Aug-11-10 04:45 PM Response to Reply #254 |
259. I once gave my phone number to a guy...AND HE CALLED ME! |
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Wed Aug-11-10 05:35 PM Response to Reply #259 |
269. That bastard!!!!! Oh, here's another one... |
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Wed Aug-11-10 05:48 PM Response to Reply #269 |
272. It gets worse |
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Wed Aug-11-10 06:11 PM Response to Reply #272 |
278. aughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!! |
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Wed Aug-11-10 05:46 PM Response to Reply #254 |
271. I did a search and came up with |
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Wed Aug-11-10 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
236. The next thing you know they will be using felons' driver's license information to track them down |
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Wed Aug-11-10 03:26 PM Response to Reply #236 |
243. Imagine the police state!!!! Oh Noes!!!11111!!!!!!!! |
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Wed Aug-11-10 04:35 PM Response to Reply #236 |
255. Or maybe using failed NICS (firearm background check) hits to catch criminals stupid enough ... |
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Wed Aug-11-10 04:37 PM Response to Reply #255 |
257. I really wish they would do that |
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Wed Aug-11-10 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
261. I'm curious. Did they have a search warrant? |
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Wed Aug-11-10 05:04 PM Response to Reply #261 |
263. No, a search warrant is typically very specific about what is being looked for, and limited |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 06:27 PM Response to Reply #263 |
279. or is it confidential information more like medical or schools? |
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Wed Aug-11-10 06:48 PM Response to Reply #279 |
282. Would you be OK with disclosing to applicants that they would be checked for warrants? |
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Kali
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Wed Aug-11-10 07:43 PM Response to Reply #282 |
289. what I have a problem with poor people applying for help and the police |
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Thu Aug-12-10 03:17 AM Response to Reply #289 |
294. I heard on the radio today that something like 1 in 8 US adults is getting food stamps |
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Thu Aug-12-10 02:29 PM Response to Reply #289 |
301. +10 |
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Wed Aug-11-10 05:30 PM Response to Reply #261 |
267. They didn't need a search warrant since |
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Wed Aug-11-10 06:08 PM Response to Reply #261 |
277. No search warrant needed here. |
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Wed Aug-11-10 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
285. From the Privacy Act of 1974: |
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Supply Side Jesus
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Wed Aug-11-10 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
286. Take care of your warrants then... |
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Wed Aug-11-10 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
288. "Operation Talon" |
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Wed Aug-11-10 10:48 PM Response to Reply #288 |
292. 6,000 people wanted for arrest (not convicted, if post above is correct) out of 41 MILLION |
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Thu Aug-12-10 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
297. Anyone think this is a bad thing?? |
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