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Cyrano
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Tue Nov-23-10 10:50 AM Original message |
Our country has been stolen from us. Our lives have been stolen from us. |
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BanTheGOP
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Tue Nov-23-10 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
1. Ban the GOP...Duh!!! |
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ixion
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Tue Nov-23-10 10:57 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I'm sorry, but the Dems were there, too |
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Catherina
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Tue Nov-23-10 11:13 AM Response to Reply #1 |
14. Think about what you just wrote. The Dems support capitalism, militarism, and elitism |
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BanTheGOP
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Tue Nov-23-10 11:24 AM Response to Reply #14 |
23. Note I said "republicanist"...not "republican" |
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ladjf
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Tue Nov-23-10 11:54 AM Response to Reply #23 |
30. Yes. The "..ist" broadens the meaning to suggest a system of |
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kelly1mm
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Tue Nov-23-10 03:00 PM Response to Reply #23 |
45. You may ban the Republican Party but the members would simply |
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BanTheGOP
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Tue Nov-23-10 03:08 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Elaboration is frankly unnecessary, but here goes... |
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kelly1mm
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Tue Nov-23-10 03:14 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Thanks for that. My question was what would you do with the conservative |
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Glassunion
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Tue Nov-23-10 06:49 PM Response to Reply #48 |
77. Simple... |
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BanTheGOP
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Tue Nov-23-10 09:28 PM Response to Reply #48 |
97. Since the Party relies on flawed legal premises in the first place |
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kelly1mm
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Tue Nov-23-10 11:46 PM Response to Reply #97 |
130. But what if the majority of voters do not want a progressive democracy? |
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Cal33
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Wed Nov-24-10 08:47 AM Response to Reply #130 |
159. You are correct. Someone did come up with a very appropriate |
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lark
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Wed Nov-24-10 02:41 PM Response to Reply #130 |
177. Sounds good, but I'm afriad this is totally unworkable |
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NorthCarolina
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Wed Nov-24-10 09:55 AM Response to Reply #45 |
169. The DLC would welcome the ex-GOP candidates with open arms. |
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Catherina
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Tue Nov-23-10 04:39 PM Response to Reply #23 |
55. Touche. You did. But do you think the Democrats serve moneyed interests any less? |
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sendero
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Tue Nov-23-10 08:00 PM Response to Reply #55 |
85. Exactly.... |
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awoke_in_2003
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Tue Nov-23-10 08:13 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. one party going by two names. nt |
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Quantess
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Tue Nov-23-10 11:10 PM Response to Reply #88 |
124. Yes. It is becoming painfully apparent. |
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blindpig
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Tue Nov-23-10 05:04 PM Response to Reply #23 |
59. Hardly matters as long as Capitalism is in place. |
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bjobotts
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Tue Nov-23-10 06:20 PM Response to Reply #59 |
71. 375 thousand people making more than a million/yr in US and 44% are in congress. |
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defendandprotect
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Tue Nov-23-10 09:33 PM Response to Reply #71 |
99. Exactly ... do we expect this millionaire/multi-millionaire Congress to change anything-? |
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blindpig
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Wed Nov-24-10 08:02 AM Response to Reply #71 |
153. They would have us wallow in despair, but.... |
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maryf
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Wed Nov-24-10 09:50 AM Response to Reply #153 |
168. The urgency to protect our natural resources |
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Joe Fields
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Tue Nov-23-10 09:00 PM Response to Reply #59 |
94. I would make a distinction. It isn't capitalism. |
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defendandprotect
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Tue Nov-23-10 09:37 PM Response to Reply #94 |
100. Capitalism is doing what it is intended to do .... move wealth of nations and natural resources... |
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Joe Fields
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Tue Nov-23-10 09:46 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. it looks to me like you are disagreeing to agree. |
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defendandprotect
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Tue Nov-23-10 10:29 PM Response to Reply #102 |
118. If we have time, I'm sure we'll work it out --- but disagree with you .... |
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tiny elvis
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Wed Nov-24-10 09:06 AM Response to Reply #102 |
160. firstly, capitalism.org's self serving definition |
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blindpig
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Wed Nov-24-10 08:32 AM Response to Reply #94 |
157. I would profoundly disagree. |
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defendandprotect
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Tue Nov-23-10 09:31 PM Response to Reply #59 |
98. 1000% .... |
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Creative
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Tue Nov-23-10 06:19 PM Response to Reply #14 |
70. Capitalism is the problem...? No, people gaming the system is the problem. |
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kestrel91316
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Tue Nov-23-10 08:50 PM Response to Reply #70 |
93. The collective (aka the species) SHOULD have more rights than any individual. |
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Raksha
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Wed Nov-24-10 04:30 AM Response to Reply #93 |
143. Good point - and if the SPECIES has more rights, those rights extend to far more individuals |
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MNBrewer
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Wed Nov-24-10 08:31 AM Response to Reply #93 |
156. such as what? |
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kestrel91316
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Wed Nov-24-10 12:43 PM Response to Reply #156 |
174. I say "rights" - you say "forced procreation". Your response is truly |
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Creative
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Thu Nov-25-10 08:12 AM Response to Reply #93 |
187. No, you do not gain more rights by being the member of a collective. |
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defendandprotect
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Tue Nov-23-10 09:40 PM Response to Reply #70 |
101. Capitalism is the very opposite of democracy and freedom -- |
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Joe Fields
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Tue Nov-23-10 09:50 PM Response to Reply #101 |
106. says you.... |
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defendandprotect
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Tue Nov-23-10 10:33 PM Response to Reply #106 |
120. The natural state of capitalism is NOT its regulated state .... |
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Joe Fields
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Wed Nov-24-10 12:33 AM Response to Reply #120 |
135. Wasn't trying to be mean spirited. We are just at odds with definitions. |
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defendandprotect
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Wed Nov-24-10 08:34 AM Response to Reply #135 |
158. Agree with you it is definition --- |
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Creative
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Thu Nov-25-10 08:14 AM Response to Reply #101 |
188. The most advanced civilizations in the world are those that embrace capitalism. |
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maryf
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Wed Nov-24-10 09:35 AM Response to Reply #70 |
162. The rights of the collective |
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Creative
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Thu Nov-25-10 08:10 AM Response to Reply #162 |
186. Freedom, in the US, is recognized by the Constitution, not "the universal declaration |
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txlibdem
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Wed Nov-24-10 02:17 AM Response to Reply #14 |
140. We are doomed under Capitalism |
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sarcasmo
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Tue Nov-23-10 02:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
43. Both parties are bought and paid for by Corporations. This is Corporate controlled America. |
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defendandprotect
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Tue Nov-23-10 09:48 PM Response to Reply #43 |
103. Obama showed us his corporate hand immediately after the election .... |
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earth mom
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Tue Nov-23-10 04:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
51. Sorry to tell ya but the DINOS in office are worse than the rethugs. |
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bjobotts
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Tue Nov-23-10 06:42 PM Response to Reply #51 |
74. Yeah but that is only a handful compared to the entire repub party |
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bjobotts
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Tue Nov-23-10 06:44 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. The "Money Party" is composed of all repubs and a handul of dems.It's ideology prevention |
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Billy Burnett
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Tue Nov-23-10 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
3. Got Prozac™? Paxil™? If so, then you need to add Abilify™. |
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TK421
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Tue Nov-23-10 11:15 AM Response to Reply #3 |
15. "Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill"? |
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moblsv
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Tue Nov-23-10 05:49 PM Response to Reply #15 |
65. Because you've been down that road |
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TK421
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Tue Nov-23-10 07:38 PM Response to Reply #65 |
81. Sad thing is, I like that road....they had some great noodles n/t |
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jonthebru
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Tue Nov-23-10 11:57 AM Response to Reply #3 |
31. But What happens when you need to... |
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OneGrassRoot
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Tue Nov-23-10 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
4. Read Yes! Magazine and similar publications.... |
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Raksha
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Wed Nov-24-10 04:59 AM Response to Reply #4 |
144. Wow, thank you for the Yes! magazine recommendation, OneGrassRoot. |
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OneGrassRoot
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Wed Nov-24-10 09:37 AM Response to Reply #144 |
164. Yay! |
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villager
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Tue Nov-23-10 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
5. Though the oligarchs have overplayed their hand on the environmental front... |
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swilton
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Tue Nov-23-10 04:48 PM Response to Reply #5 |
57. You wanna make a bet? |
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villager
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Tue Nov-23-10 06:51 PM Response to Reply #57 |
78. Sure -- and privatized security, etc. But their arrogance is that they literally think they live on |
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defendandprotect
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Tue Nov-23-10 09:50 PM Response to Reply #57 |
105. For years now, the Mall at Short Hills here in NJ, features collections of IRON GATES..... |
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defendandprotect
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Tue Nov-23-10 09:57 PM Response to Reply #5 |
108. Agree with you ... but think it will be Global Warming which will play the final cards .... |
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The Doctor.
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Tue Nov-23-10 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
6. I have the formula. The keys to mass prosperity. |
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Tuesday Afternoon
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Tue Nov-23-10 11:05 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. interesting post -- would love to hear more. |
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Billy Burnett
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Tue Nov-23-10 11:05 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Grape Kool Aid? |
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Klukie
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Tue Nov-23-10 11:07 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Hahaha |
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BonnieJW
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Tue Nov-23-10 11:07 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Why in the world |
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SammyWinstonJack
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Tue Nov-23-10 11:16 AM Original message |
Weird, eh? |
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The Doctor.
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Tue Nov-23-10 11:16 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Good question. The short answer? |
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OneGrassRoot
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Tue Nov-23-10 11:19 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. And truly finding the right people is a challenge... |
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The Doctor.
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Tue Nov-23-10 11:30 AM Response to Reply #20 |
27. You have no idea. |
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Tue Nov-23-10 01:48 PM Response to Reply #17 |
39. Deleted message |
The Doctor.
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Tue Nov-23-10 03:22 PM Response to Reply #39 |
49. ... |
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defendandprotect
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Tue Nov-23-10 10:02 PM Response to Reply #17 |
109. Try Michael Moore - - Ralph Nader - - Soros -- |
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info being
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Wed Nov-24-10 05:06 AM Response to Reply #109 |
146. No, they don't give a shit at all |
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The Doctor.
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Thu Nov-25-10 08:06 AM Response to Reply #109 |
184. I've emailed Michael Moore... no response. |
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yodermon
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Tue Nov-23-10 05:05 PM Response to Reply #6 |
60. does it involve the TARDIS? |
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The Doctor.
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Thu Nov-25-10 08:08 AM Response to Reply #60 |
185. Hehehe... it's in the shop. |
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bbigrob
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Tue Nov-23-10 06:11 PM Response to Reply #6 |
69. The Formula |
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The Doctor.
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Thu Nov-25-10 08:04 AM Response to Reply #69 |
183. One would identify ones' self in a varifiable fashion, |
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info being
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Wed Nov-24-10 05:04 AM Response to Reply #6 |
145. I've been there |
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The Doctor.
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Thu Nov-25-10 08:00 AM Response to Reply #145 |
182. Actually, that's part of the solution. |
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Klukie
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Tue Nov-23-10 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
7. I wish I had the answers.... |
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Doctor_J
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Tue Nov-23-10 11:29 AM Response to Reply #7 |
26. After observing for 25 years or so, I am quite sure of the answer |
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NNN0LHI
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Tue Nov-23-10 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
12. What can we realistically do to stop our slide into oblivion? I will tell you |
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Catherina
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Tue Nov-23-10 11:16 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. +1 We are nothing without a manufacturing base. n/t |
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defendandprotect
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Tue Nov-23-10 10:04 PM Response to Reply #12 |
110. We have to overturn the trade agreements. ... renew tariffs .... |
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Mimosa
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Wed Nov-24-10 01:44 AM Response to Reply #12 |
139. I agree with NNNOLHI and Catherina |
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OHdem10
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Tue Nov-23-10 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
13. The Democrats seem to agree with the Goebbels of the RW |
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Catherina
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Tue Nov-23-10 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
18. Rec'd with great sadness n/t |
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Fumesucker
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Tue Nov-23-10 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
19. They Thought They Were Free.. |
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nicky187
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Tue Nov-23-10 01:51 PM Response to Reply #19 |
40. The same thing is going on here. |
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defendandprotect
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Tue Nov-23-10 10:07 PM Response to Reply #40 |
111. My impression is they have been corporatizing colleges/universities for decades ..... |
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awoke_in_2003
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Tue Nov-23-10 08:19 PM Response to Reply #19 |
89. that is absolutely chilling... |
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awoke_in_2003
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Tue Nov-23-10 08:20 PM Response to Reply #19 |
90. that was absolutely chilling... |
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Tue Nov-23-10 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
21. How do we stop the slide? By stopping the capitalism. Ain't gonna be easy - |
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defendandprotect
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Tue Nov-23-10 10:09 PM Response to Reply #21 |
112. Re-regulating capitalism was the first thing Obama should have been doing ..... |
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LeftinOH
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Tue Nov-23-10 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
22. I mostly agree - but I'm not blaming "the government." n/t |
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kctim
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Tue Nov-23-10 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
24. Where do we go from here? Nowhere. |
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defendandprotect
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Tue Nov-23-10 10:18 PM Response to Reply #24 |
115. People are waking up because so far the elites haven't been able to |
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kctim
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Wed Nov-24-10 09:58 AM Response to Reply #115 |
170. Our internal war |
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defendandprotect
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Wed Nov-24-10 03:48 PM Response to Reply #170 |
178. Giving a little harder thought to both your posts ..... |
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kctim
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Wed Nov-24-10 05:26 PM Response to Reply #178 |
179. Interesting points |
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defendandprotect
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Thu Nov-25-10 12:27 AM Response to Reply #179 |
181. Possibly .... |
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Tue Nov-23-10 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
25. I was gonna say, "Form our own country" |
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Greyhound
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Tue Nov-23-10 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
28. I think we agree and it seems to me that we need some creative destruction. |
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ladjf
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Tue Nov-23-10 12:02 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. I like what you are saying. However, I can't seem to get a grasp |
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Greyhound
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Wed Nov-24-10 10:23 AM Response to Reply #34 |
172. It is not likely at all, but it is possible. |
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mstinamotorcity
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Wed Nov-24-10 09:48 AM Response to Reply #28 |
166. You know how I feel |
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woo me with science
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Tue Nov-23-10 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
29. You know, a year ago I would have accused you of hyperbole. |
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alcibiades_mystery
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Tue Nov-23-10 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
32. But not our melodrama! |
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TheWatcher
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Tue Nov-23-10 06:03 PM Response to Reply #32 |
67. Looks like our Snarky Invincible Ignorance is still a growth Industry as well. |
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ladjf
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Tue Nov-23-10 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
33. Fine post, that speaks for many of us. |
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Igel
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Tue Nov-23-10 01:42 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. Just change a few words and it could speak for a lot more. |
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laughingliberal
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Tue Nov-23-10 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
35. I've been saying for a while it's the final push to steal the last few pennies from our pockets. |
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BrklynLiberal
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Tue Nov-23-10 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
36. KnR |
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Flatulo
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Tue Nov-23-10 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
37. I think what we're seeing is the end of a golden age. Global |
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Crazy Dave
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Tue Nov-23-10 01:54 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Skilled labor in my town used to be $20 an hour plus ten years ago |
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Flatulo
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Tue Nov-23-10 05:30 PM Response to Reply #41 |
61. It doesn't matter how skilled you are... |
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Crazy Dave
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Tue Nov-23-10 10:33 PM Response to Reply #61 |
119. They're also bringing the skilled labor from overseas here too |
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moondust
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Tue Nov-23-10 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
42. "giant ghetto" - Matt Taibbi. |
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herbm
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Tue Nov-23-10 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
44. Sounds like a teabagger talking at dinner with friends. We've made it till now not owning our |
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alarimer
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Tue Nov-23-10 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
47. The really ugly truth is that we never had this country to begin with. |
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defendandprotect
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Tue Nov-23-10 10:21 PM Response to Reply #47 |
116. Exactly ... taken in theft, built by slaves, kept by assassination .... |
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TZ
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Tue Nov-23-10 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
50. I'm not incredibly rich. |
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Plucketeer
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Tue Nov-23-10 04:26 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. What country is that??? |
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Catherina
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Tue Nov-23-10 04:42 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. Get back to us in a year you lucky one. n/t |
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TheWatcher
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Tue Nov-23-10 06:06 PM Response to Reply #50 |
68. Thank You So Much For The Update from your Unaffected Bubble World. |
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oldhippie
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Wed Nov-24-10 09:50 AM Response to Reply #50 |
167. Shhhhhhhh. ........ |
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mstinamotorcity
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Tue Nov-23-10 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
53. Ban together and starve the Beast!!!!! |
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handmade34
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Tue Nov-23-10 07:37 PM Response to Reply #53 |
80. excellent!!! |
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Butch350
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Tue Nov-23-10 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
54. Tell me something I don't already know! |
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proteus_lives
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Tue Nov-23-10 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
58. We can do nothing. All is lost, we're all doomed. |
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onethatcares
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Tue Nov-23-10 05:43 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. are you having cranberrie sauce or |
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proteus_lives
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Wed Nov-24-10 12:47 AM Response to Reply #62 |
136. Not much for cranberries. |
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maryf
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Tue Nov-23-10 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
63. "Do we sit around waiting for our own funerals?" |
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valerief
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Tue Nov-23-10 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
64. If only the propaganda didn't get young people to fight in wars for the elite. |
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Rex
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Tue Nov-23-10 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
66. That is a pretty good recount of it. |
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Tue Nov-23-10 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
72. Eloquent. |
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Tue Nov-23-10 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
73. We're working locally along these lines... |
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Tue Nov-23-10 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
76. I love this OP/post. -nt |
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Tue Nov-23-10 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
79. As the TeaBaggers say "We want our country back" so we will have to |
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Tue Nov-23-10 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
82. we are backed into a corner, most of us |
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Tue Nov-23-10 10:24 PM Response to Reply #82 |
117. "It's not polite to discuss politics or religion in public" --- That had best no longer be true!! |
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Tue Nov-23-10 11:13 PM Response to Reply #117 |
125. one of the most difficult is |
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Tue Nov-23-10 11:22 PM Response to Reply #125 |
126. Agree ..... |
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Tue Nov-23-10 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
83. K&R. And Obama is at best simply presiding over it, instead of doing anything meaningful to stop it, |
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Tue Nov-23-10 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
84. Like the Doctor |
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Tue Nov-23-10 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
86. "Our country has been stolen from us. Our lives have been stolen from us." |
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Tue Nov-23-10 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
87. This very same thing is repeated over and over and over and over and over and over here. |
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Tue Nov-23-10 08:49 PM Response to Reply #87 |
92. Funny, every single of those historical figures you mention also said many things... |
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Tue Nov-23-10 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
91. It's not a pretty picture emerging. |
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Tue Nov-23-10 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
95. Its the press that we have to get right |
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Tue Nov-23-10 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
96. Elites have been working on knocking out Constitution and "democracy" since first begun.... |
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Tue Nov-23-10 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
104. The arc of the moral universe is long.. |
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Tue Nov-23-10 09:52 PM Response to Original message |
107. Run liberal celebrities who are anti-corporate and male |
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Tue Nov-23-10 10:41 PM Response to Reply #107 |
121. Believe me, I'm not laughing .... it's a great Plan B .... |
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Wed Nov-24-10 09:45 AM Response to Reply #107 |
165. alec baldwin? |
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Wed Nov-24-10 12:58 PM Response to Reply #165 |
175. Was Viggo Mortensen born in America? |
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Tue Nov-23-10 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
113. So....we should use the teabagger line, "I want my country back"?? |
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Wed Nov-24-10 12:19 AM Response to Reply #113 |
133. Actually that was Howard Dean's line first . . . |
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Tue Nov-23-10 10:17 PM Response to Original message |
114. "Before long..." - I think that, 'America is dispensable', was decided in the 90s |
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Tue Nov-23-10 10:43 PM Response to Reply #114 |
122. It's what the GOP has been working for over 60 years ..."Third world America" ... |
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Tue Nov-23-10 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
123. It really makes life easier to skate through when you fell owned, doesn't it? |
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Tue Nov-23-10 11:42 PM Response to Reply #123 |
128. yes, but... I don't believe we control our destiny, entirely |
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Tue Nov-23-10 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
127. ESPECIALLY during periods of costly bad luck and slow work weeks . . . |
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Tue Nov-23-10 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
129. I'm not going down without a fight |
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Wed Nov-24-10 09:35 AM Response to Reply #129 |
163. I'll be fighting along with you |
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Wed Nov-24-10 11:24 AM Response to Reply #163 |
173. Thanks handmade34 |
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Wed Nov-24-10 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
131. Great post and sadly very true. |
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Wed Nov-24-10 12:15 AM Response to Original message |
132. This "new" Economic Dis-Enfranchisment of the Middle Class Started in the 80s Against African... |
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Wed Nov-24-10 12:25 AM Response to Original message |
134. Well, what I'm doing is moving to a small town to start a small business. |
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Wed Nov-24-10 01:24 AM Response to Original message |
137. Wish I knew. My "safe" union, nursing job is actually under attack. |
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Wed Nov-24-10 09:32 AM Response to Reply #137 |
161. "They owe no allegiance to the Americans..." |
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Wed Nov-24-10 01:35 AM Response to Original message |
138. financially i am fucked |
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Wed Nov-24-10 02:27 AM Response to Original message |
141. I don't feel that pessimistic, we just need to get the truth out with great passion. |
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Wed Nov-24-10 03:49 AM Response to Original message |
142. Kick# 180 Stop the TSA |
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Wed Nov-24-10 05:42 AM Response to Original message |
147. some of us have been awake for decades |
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Wed Nov-24-10 05:57 AM Response to Original message |
148. The Answer is |
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Wed Nov-24-10 06:54 AM Response to Original message |
149. The unions are what created the Middle Class |
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Wed Nov-24-10 07:09 AM Response to Original message |
150. Truly a bipartisan mess. |
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Wed Nov-24-10 07:10 AM Response to Original message |
151. You Are In My Head. Sad it is ending this way. n/t |
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Wed Nov-24-10 07:42 AM Response to Original message |
152. it actually goes back to 400-500 years ago.... |
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Wed Nov-24-10 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
154. decline |
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Wed Nov-24-10 08:19 AM Response to Reply #154 |
155. well said |
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Wed Nov-24-10 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
171. We do not have a democracy |
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Wed Nov-24-10 02:39 PM Response to Reply #171 |
176. Welcome to DU, manny. And your ability to see reality is also welcome. |
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Wed Nov-24-10 05:30 PM Response to Reply #171 |
180. one of the answers... |
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Thu Nov-25-10 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
189. . |
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