Listen, I.m all for being nice and yaddayadda yadda...but

[demommom]

but after listening to all of the remaining candidates pirate Joe's ideas right down to his exact words, I,m sorry, I can't be nice anymore.

I can't vote for any of them and that includes Prince Obama.

[1corona4u]

1. I hear ya...and....

I think the Obama supporters are the most single minded, and viscious people there are, and are more interested im 'making history', than they are about choosing the right candidate.

Edwards and his people have turned me off as well. A long time ago. There is a phony top layer to them, and the same is true of John.

I'm not voting for either of them, and while I'm not sure I will vote at all, one of the biggest things both the candidates and supporters have done that I hate is, the relentless juvenile, baseless, bashing of Hillary. If it was their intention to push people away from her, it's had quite thre opposite effect on me. I'm actually finding myself defending her in my mind.

[demommom]

2. I know.

It made me feel horrible to see them gang up on her last night,but then she came along later and parotted her version of Joe's ACTION and I became furious with her. What I think I have to come to grips with is that there is no replacement for aJoe Biden,none. Then I have to convince myself to just vote or not for whoever is selected. But after reading about their bullish attitudes at caucus, oh I just can't put a positive spin on it right now.

[1corona4u]

3. I didn't watch it, but the board here last night-out there

was unbelievable. And these people call themselves human beings....

[PatSeg]

4. And looking back over the last few months

I'm glad we managed to stay above it all for the most part. I think we represented Joe with dignity and honesty, which was a credit to Joe and ourselves that did not go unnoticed.

[demommom]

5. I guess maybe it is my age,but I see almost everything

in a different light than most people today. It seems to me that nobody feels real loyalty to anything or anyone but theirselves and actually they don't realize that they sell theirselves out also. I worry, my husband says I worry about everything and everybody, but I worry that we are becoming too much like the rest of the world. The average man in this country is just screwed. Only money and celebrity drive America now and that is how we got into this mess that we are in.

I find young people, too many anyway,care for only one thing... what they think makes it good for them,whether it does or not.

What keeps gnawing at me, and I,m sure here comes Debi, but what keeps gnawing at me is how easily way too many "Biden supporters caved at the caucuses. I truly appreciate the ones who did not. I would have stood my ground until hell froze over or in the case of Iowa maybe thawed out,and left uncommitted. Every person in this country deserves a chance to vote for their choice of tne candidates that are running. And every candidate deserves equal time. I wish he had not quit.

Sory, I am babbling again.

[PatSeg]

8. I would have stood my ground as well but

I think a lot of Biden supporters were newly converted and probably didn't have the same commitment as some of us do.

[dsmmom]

13. I think there was some caving, but...

a lot of people tried to hold out too. I had a friend, God love her, that just registered Democratic for the caucus, and was newly converted to Joe the day before the caucus. Her motto was "Biden or Bust," and she tried to get her small group to chant it. I'm so proud of her. Her precinct captain was the first to cave which is crazy. My thought, and this goes back to the caucus process, is that the reason some people caved quickly is that they wanted their vote "to count." Maybe it comes down to how badly or not they wanted Joe to win. We could have used a few more people like you on Thursday night!

[gateley]

6. I honestly wonder if all the candidates didn't secretly feel that Joe WAS the

best qualified for the job.... :shrug:

[ShariJH]

7. Oh they know it...

that's why he's outta there.

[PatSeg]

9. Oh they know

that's why they kept saying "Joe is right". They were taking mental notes, "Hmmm, after he's gone, think I'll use that one." They couldn't criticize him, because they planned to emulate him.

[1corona4u]

10. I sent you a PM...

[Eurobabe]

11. I'm still voting for Joe in the primary, I don't care if it counts or not

if I have to write him in I will.

[jillan]

12. We DON'T have to vote for any of them in the primary.

I'm voting for Joe. He is my candidate, and no one is taking that away from me.

We should stand up for Joe.

Be strong.

In the GE of course I will vote for the nominee.

[dsmmom]

14. I agree.

One of the reasons, besides the idealistic HOPE theme, that he has so many young people is that they haven't been around long enough to know what other candidates have done, or haven't dug deep enough. I had an Obama supporter stop by my house, which has two Biden signs in it, before the caucus. I chatted with her for a couple minutes. She hoped Obama would be my second, yada, yada. I started talking about foreign policy, and the first thing out of her mouth was that Obama had lived abroad, okay, whatever. Next thing she starts talking about Pakistan and Afghanistan and how Obama would use diplomacy, and wants to build schools there. I told her, Wow, that's what Joe proposed a while ago, it would have cost about $20 million dollars, etc but not enouch people got on board. She was oblivious.