What do you all think about Obama's false comment re: a Cuban's inability to attend church?

[Mika]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/17/us.cuba/index.html

President Obama says:

"What we're looking for is some signal that there are going to be changes in how Cuba operates that assures that political prisoners are released, that people can speak their minds freely, that they can travel, that they can write and attend church and do the things that people throughout the hemisphere can do and take for granted," he said.

:wtf:

Comments?

[Billy Burnett]

1. I think it tells us a lot.

The wrong people have Obama's ear.

[EFerrari]

3. And that Chavez is right, Obama knows very little about Latin America. n/t

[Judi Lynn]

2. Inconceivable! It's an echo of that old Cold War claptrap. Maybe this is something his grandparents

believed. Do you think that's possible?

You would feel it's unavoidable to have seen through this low-rent red-baiting, whopper spewing demonizing which has been going on long ago, to see it for what it IS, pure rot.

Maybe someone should suggest to him that he goes to Cuba and take a look at a church service there sometime, anywhere all over the island. They even have Bible-thumping holy rollers there, for crying out loud. They might even have an outpost of our backwoods snake handling fundies, for all anyone knows!

He's running out of time to keep going on childish reliance on cultural myths created by propagandists to serve a belligerent, red-baiting bunch of right-wing clowns who have always hoped to stir the pot on Cuba to the point they could finally get the loonies in our country clamoring for an invasion, and restoration of another bloody puppet to rule over Cuba again, as in Operation Northwoods.

[roody]

4. It shows his ignorance. I have been to several

churches of different denominations in Cuba.

[EFerrari]

6. roody, would you weigh in on this thread? You have first hand knowledge:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=8352355&mesg_id=8353727

[roody]

7. That freedom of worship is the same crap they pulled up

for the Sandinista government. I went to church in Nicaragua in the 80s as well.

[EFerrari]

8. I wonder if anyone at State is monitoring freedom of religion in Colombia.

Or in Saudi Arabia. Or in China. Or in all those other places where the leader plays ball with the vampires.

[EFerrari]

5. Mika: check out this link. This is what Obama was referring to:

http://pewforum.org/news/display.php?NewsID=17903

[Mika]

11. Do you think the US would allow an official Cuban Commission on Religious Freedom here?

Look at the makeup of this commission..

http://www.uscirf.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=214&Itemid=41

[EFerrari]

12. Oh, I wasn't agreeing with it, just pointing it out. In fact, last week

I was called anti American and anti Obama for pointing out that we had no idea why those visas were delayed. Always a charming experience to post in GDP.

[Mika]

13. I know.

I got the same treatment for posting the Obama vids on his flip flopping on the sanctions.

:hi:

[roody]

9. I have not researched this, but I believe that Cuba is crawling with

right wing religious types. My sister belongs to a mega Baptist church in Austin, Tx., and she said her pastor goes to Cuba all the time. There is a Baptist seminary there connected to her church. These are the people who ask the treasury for permission to go and who get it easily. I do not trust them one bit. I'm with Pastors for Peace. They neither ask for or accept permission to visit their neighbors in Cuba.

[Judi Lynn]

10. I believe you're right, roody. I've seen photos years ago of people in church in Cuba,

waving those pathetic holy roller arms in the air like the fundies on tv evangelists' church service, people like Jimmy Swaggart: you know the routine where they wave their mitts around, crank their necks up so they are looking skyward, and howling along with the songs, putting on a great show of revealing how "spiritual" they are, by physically acting it out, like a clumsy, drunken game of charades.

It almost triggers a gag reflex. Idiotic, diminished capacity at its worst. I doubt a sane person could sit through one of those emotional orgies of mock piety displays, and baying at the moon.

Sending in hordes of fundies is also sending in waves of right-wingers, as they have limited minds, are self-centered, materialistic, and petty. It's another way to attempt to destabilize a progressive country. Luckily, most people don't find that way of life, or way of thinking to be compatible with good sense, or common sense, and they give a lot of them wide berth. Solid, steady, balanced people won't be influenced by them.