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argonaut (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 07:17 PM Original message |
Rank the Democratic Presidents since FDR. |
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demosincebirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
1. LBJ. Truman, Kennedy, BC, JC |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 07:23 PM Response to Original message |
2. Carter, Clinton, Kennedy, Truman, Johnson |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 07:47 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. LOL. Almost my opposite |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
3. I would make one quibble which is that I would put LBJ ahead of JFK. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
4. Truman was the last President that was accessible to the American people |
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Old Codger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 08:32 PM Response to Reply #4 |
28. HST |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
5. Hmm. |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
6. Truman, JFK, Jimmy Carter, LBJ and Bill Clinton. |
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craigmatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
7. LBJ, Obama, Truman, JFK, Carter, and Clinton |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 07:44 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. I think Obama would have ordered an air strike over Cuba in 1962 |
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craigmatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 07:58 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. To the contrary I think Obama would've done the exact same thing |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 08:04 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Obama's record tells me otherwise |
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craigmatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 08:11 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. That's just incorrect. 2 weeks before the assasination JFK allowed for Ngo to be killed |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 08:13 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. That was never part of the plan! |
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craigmatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 08:20 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Oh come on. JFK knew because the generals consulted him before the coup. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 08:27 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. The advisors in South Vietnam were strictly in non-combat positions |
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craigmatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 08:31 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. That's what their job title said but do you really think that they didn't try to shoot |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 08:34 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Shooting in self-defense was always allowed |
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craigmatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 08:36 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. You just said they were non combat last time I checked shooting was combat. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 08:38 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. When someone is shooting at you, normal reaction is to shoot back |
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craigmatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 08:42 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Maybe so but they helped ARVN go on the offensive. Just like the USSR helped the North Koreans in |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 08:21 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. "Obama has been too differential to the Pentagon brass"? Um, he rejected Gen. McChrystal's advice... |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 08:31 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Obama: I'm looking forward to returning to Afghanistan many times in the years to come. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 08:48 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. So what? Did you forget about the July 2011 timeline for Afghanistan withdrawal? |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 09:00 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. 'Conditions-based' is a loophole big enough to fly a jumbo jet throught it |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 09:13 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. "Conditions-based" is realistic. So far, the timeline is still on schedule. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 08:07 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. His Afghan escalation really hammers that point home |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 08:14 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. JFK did not have the CIA bring Al Qaeda Chechens to fight in Kosovo |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 10:55 PM Response to Reply #22 |
42. Let's just say some of us Haitians were happy Aristide is out! n/t |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-06-10 08:56 AM Response to Reply #15 |
44. A couple of years ago I read "The Missile Crisis" by Elie Abel and |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
9. Truman/Johnson.... Carter/Kennedy/Clinton |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 07:51 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Kennedy is head and shoulders over Carter and Clinton |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 07:55 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. "after being burned by Bay of Pigs" |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
11. Why not include Obama |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 07:57 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. No one has any kind of real perspective to judge his presidency and its longer term effects by |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 08:06 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. The Democratic Party of today is not the one from our parents and grandparents |
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TygrBright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
20. Carter, Johnson, Truman, Kennedy, Clinton. n/t |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
29. Truman, Kennedy, Johnson, Carter |
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Pryderi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
36. Johnson, Truman, Clinton, Carter, Kennedy |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
38. Great discussion question, and a difficult one to answer. |
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Drunken Irishman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
39. If we're going to include Kennedy, we can include Pres. Obama. |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
40. mine: |
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BlueIdaho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-10 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
41. Kennedy, Johnson, Truman & Carter tied for third, Clinton fifth place. nt. |
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Pryderi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-06-10 08:14 AM Response to Original message |
43. JFK wasn't president long enough to qualify as best of the list provided. n/t |
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