|
![]() ![]() ![]() |
This topic is archived. |
Home » Discuss » General Discussion: Presidency |
![]() |
tekisui
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 02:11 PM Original message |
Obama Administration Authorizes CIA to Kill US Citizen |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
DJ13
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
1. A constitutional lawyer should know better |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Pirate Smile
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 02:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I think he knows the definition of treason. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 02:19 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. So, an accusation of treason restricts one's right to due process? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Pirate Smile
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 02:45 PM Response to Reply #4 |
23. Yes, if you are in Yemen helping to plot attacks on the US then you get treated like the rest |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 02:48 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. That is all based on accusation and secret evidence. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
SpartanDem
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 03:04 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. This is a war there is right to due process |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 03:06 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Are there Americans in Yemen that are in the line of fire? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
SpartanDem
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 03:14 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. No, but plenty of AQ terrorist are |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 03:16 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. That brings us back to the question of extra-judicial killings in general. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ClarkUSA
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 03:32 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. "international law permits the use of lethal force against individuals that pose an imminent threat" |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 04:24 PM Response to Reply #38 |
53. I should add, he is the TARGET, not the bystander. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ClarkUSA
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 05:05 PM Response to Reply #53 |
70. Since Awlaki is involved in plotting terrorist acts against his country, that's a GOOD thing. n/t |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
cliffordu
![]() |
Thu Apr-08-10 11:26 AM Response to Reply #31 |
160. Yep. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
backscatter712
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 04:20 PM Response to Reply #23 |
51. When you're in a foreign country, working with groups that wage war against the United States... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
IndianaGreen
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 04:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
62. Obama craps on the Constitution just like Bush did! |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
cowman
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 06:08 PM Response to Reply #62 |
97. Uhhh, hate to say this |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 07:06 PM Response to Reply #97 |
106. Do you have a link to the polling data on that? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
olegramps
![]() |
Thu Apr-08-10 08:09 AM Response to Reply #106 |
153. I will confirm it. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ShortnFiery
![]() |
Sat Apr-10-10 12:16 PM Response to Reply #3 |
170. Charges and Conviction without trial? That's NOT due process. eom |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ClarkUSA
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
2. Your OP title is misleading. The article uses weasel word qualifiers such as "may be" & "indicate". |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Kdillard
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 02:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Thank you. Are we really about protecting people who commit treason |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 02:26 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. It is not about protecting someone who has been accused of treason.. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Enthusiast
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 02:31 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. +1 |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
frylock
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 02:26 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. a question better asked of obama and his doj don't you think? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ClarkUSA
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 02:39 PM Response to Reply #6 |
18. WE are not, but still, teksui has created a false premise w/a misleading OP title. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 02:43 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. NYT, BBC and many others have reported it. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ClarkUSA
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 02:44 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Then why aren't you using them as a source instead of the OP? n/t |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 02:46 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Here: |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ClarkUSA
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 03:02 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. "international law permits the use of lethal force against individuals that pose an imminent threat" |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 03:05 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Imminent threat or pre-emption? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ClarkUSA
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 03:09 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. According to one of the news sources YOU provided, he is actively "involved in plots" at the moment. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 03:13 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Boogey-boogey! |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Name removed
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 03:23 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. Deleted message |
ClarkUSA
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 07:11 PM Response to Reply #36 |
108. I repeat, this is in accordance with international law & Congress ruled on it after 9/11 |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
harkadog
![]() |
Fri Apr-09-10 02:38 AM Response to Reply #108 |
164. You would have completely dismissed these secret |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ChimpersMcSmirkers
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 08:13 PM Response to Reply #34 |
127. The police are granted the right to kill when someone is a mortal threat to themself |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
treestar
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 10:48 PM Response to Reply #6 |
140. Some people really do hate America as the right wing accused them |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
vaberella
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 05:27 PM Original message |
I'm confused. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
KoKo
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 09:02 PM Response to Reply #2 |
131. Clark USA...then give a better source...one YOU APPROVE OF if you |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
secondwind
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
5. I'm with the President on this one...that jerk will never get "close enough" for us to capture |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 02:24 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. You're 'certian' the evidence is overwhelming? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
frylock
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 02:25 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. i'll bet bush took extra-legal assassinations quite seriously as well |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Ignis
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 05:56 PM Response to Reply #8 |
92. Oh, but that's _different_! |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Jim Sagle
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 02:26 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. So IOKIODI - it's OK if Obama does it. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
barbiegeek
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 02:47 PM Response to Reply #9 |
27. Yep |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
donco6
![]() |
Sat Apr-10-10 12:22 PM Response to Reply #5 |
172. Yeah, like the mobile chemical weapons labs. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
12. What Does a U.S. Citizen Have to Do to Make Obama Want to Kill Him? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Kdillard
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 02:35 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Stop acting as if this nutjob is some innocent. He made his choice. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 02:41 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. What choice? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Kdillard
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 03:10 PM Response to Reply #19 |
35. The choice to commit treason and go against the US. The NY times and other |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 03:14 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. That is the accusation. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Jim Sagle
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 04:06 PM Response to Reply #35 |
47. We also have a choice - to support state murder without trial, or oppose it. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
onenote
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 04:17 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. do you oppose the use of deadly force by the police in any and all situations? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 04:27 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. When another's life is in immediate danger. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Jim Sagle
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 05:50 PM Response to Reply #49 |
90. Only if he's actively committing a crime or resisting arrest. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
boppers
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 05:08 PM Response to Reply #19 |
72. You are confused about what is, and isn't, protected speech. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
frylock
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 02:43 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. pretty incriminating evidence to be sure.. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
PBS Poll-435
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
14. 24 Business Hours Later... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 02:34 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. ? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Robb
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 04:47 PM Response to Reply #14 |
59. . |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
17. Glen Greenwald nails it here: |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
frylock
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 02:46 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. nailed it.. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Name removed
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 02:47 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Deleted message |
ClarkUSA
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 03:00 PM Response to Reply #17 |
29. What's that outrage-monger squawking about now? He doesn't understand international law that well. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
RollWithIt
![]() |
Thu Apr-08-10 10:05 AM Response to Reply #17 |
158. Hold on a fucking second, "Advocating Attacks on US Military Targets" Constitutionally Protected???? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Phx_Dem
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
40. When you're overseas actively working with al-Qaeda to plan attacks on the U.S., |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 04:26 PM Response to Reply #40 |
54. It is okay to kill people who we think at some point might be commit |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Phx_Dem
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 07:11 PM Response to Reply #54 |
107. Don't be such a drama queen. No one is talking about "executing" anyone. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 07:18 PM Response to Reply #107 |
115. A warzone with the US in Yemen? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Phx_Dem
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 07:28 PM Response to Reply #115 |
117. Yes. We've been aiding Yemen in it's "war" against the terrorists. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 07:32 PM Response to Reply #117 |
118. An accused traitor. Guilt by association is not grounds |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
treestar
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 10:56 PM Response to Reply #118 |
147. Everyone killed in a war is "extrajudicially executed" if you use that |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Thu Apr-08-10 06:36 AM Response to Reply #147 |
150. What War??? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
treestar
![]() |
Thu Apr-08-10 11:21 AM Response to Reply #150 |
159. We are with Al Qaeda |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Phx_Dem
![]() |
Thu Apr-08-10 04:29 PM Response to Reply #150 |
162. No one said we were!! Yemen is at war with al-Qaeda, and this |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Fri Apr-09-10 04:26 AM Response to Reply #162 |
165. Please tell me what the standard is to label someone a terrorist |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Phx_Dem
![]() |
Fri Apr-09-10 10:14 AM Response to Reply #165 |
167. Living with, working with, plotting with al-qaeda. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 07:43 PM Response to Reply #117 |
123. So, there 'might' be some Americans in harms way in Yemen. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
treestar
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 10:55 PM Response to Reply #54 |
146. If someone is overseas conspiring with Al Qaeda |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
onenote
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
41. the use of deadly force against an unconvicted suspect who is thought to pose a substantial threat |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 04:24 PM Response to Reply #41 |
52. Sure, when a gun is pointed at someone or a cop. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Jennicut
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
43. Why doesn't the US just revoke his citizenship if he is committing treason? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Rage Inc.
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
44. Fuck! |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
underseasurveyor
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
46. In the hands of a sarah palin administration |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 04:28 PM Response to Reply #46 |
56. That is exactly the point. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
phleshdef
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
48. Authorizing deadly force is fine and constitutional. He didn't ORDER anyone killed. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
onenote
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 04:18 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. +1 |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 04:29 PM Response to Reply #48 |
57. How is he a deadly criminal? What has he been convicted of? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
onenote
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 04:46 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. the constitutional standard for the use of deadly force is not "hot pursuit" |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
VespertineIconoclast
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 05:14 PM Response to Reply #58 |
75. Excellent response and thank you for the... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
phleshdef
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 04:57 PM Response to Reply #57 |
66. I can't believe this actually has to be explained to you. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 05:00 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. You are still using the police frame. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
phleshdef
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 05:08 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. Well you can't exactly send an ordinary squad of LA police officers after him in Yemen. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 05:17 PM Response to Reply #71 |
76. Monitor him and capture him when he moves. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Robb
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 08:39 PM Response to Reply #76 |
129. Shall we shoot the gun out of his hand, Roy? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
olegramps
![]() |
Thu Apr-08-10 08:24 AM Response to Reply #68 |
154. Give it up. You have lost this argument. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
spoony
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 05:09 PM Response to Reply #66 |
73. The CIA is not a law enforcement agency |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
treestar
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 10:51 PM Response to Reply #57 |
143. It's war |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Robb
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 04:52 PM Response to Reply #48 |
63. This needs to be a new sigline. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Robb
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
60. And now we're defending al-Awlaki? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 04:52 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. I am defending a citizen's right to due process. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Robb
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 04:54 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. This is not a streetcorner preacher in SoCal. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 04:56 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Accusations of his money uses and his free speech |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
phleshdef
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 04:58 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Since when has free speech rights guaranteed protection against conspiring to murder people? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 05:01 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. If he hs in fact done that, the evidence needs to be provided and |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ClarkUSA
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 05:09 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. Wrong. Your polemic runs contrary to international law. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Vattel
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 06:10 PM Response to Reply #74 |
98. One question here is whether he can be apprehended. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Vattel
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 07:16 PM Response to Reply #98 |
111. posted in wrong place. reposted it below |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
boppers
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 05:18 PM Response to Reply #69 |
77. They *HAVE* monitored him, and decided the best course of action is dropping a bomb on him. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Name removed
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 05:20 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Deleted message |
Name removed
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 05:27 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. Deleted message |
Name removed
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 05:29 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. Deleted message |
Robb
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 05:58 PM Response to Reply #83 |
93. Straw man. It's got nothing to do with party, and you can't show it to be so. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 06:00 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. I'm working on it, |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Robb
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 06:20 PM Response to Reply #94 |
100. Wow, you sure are. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 06:34 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. I'll put you down for other. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ClarkUSA
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 06:46 PM Response to Reply #102 |
104. So sorry, but it appears your push poll, which was based on false premises, just got locked. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ClarkUSA
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 05:36 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. Anyone defending Awlaki has no clue about international law. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ClarkUSA
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 05:29 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. "Sick folks here" are defending a terrorist who is actively plotting against his own country. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
spoony
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 05:38 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. How about our laws? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ClarkUSA
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 06:03 PM Response to Reply #86 |
96. "You keep insisting this is okay by international law, a dubious claim"?? Prove it's "dubious". |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
boppers
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 05:42 PM Response to Reply #78 |
87. Under Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter (etc.), Ford, Nixon... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 05:44 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. That doesn't make it right. And, Obama is the first to target a US citizen. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
boppers
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 06:23 PM Response to Reply #88 |
101. First to target a US citizen? Uh, no. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 06:36 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. It is the first US citizen to go on the CIA's kill list. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ClarkUSA
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 07:33 PM Response to Reply #103 |
120. For good reason... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
cowman
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 06:16 PM Response to Reply #78 |
99. Would you feel |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Phx_Dem
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 07:18 PM Response to Reply #99 |
114. LOL. Works for me. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ClarkUSA
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 05:23 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. According to the New York Times, Awlaki is actively "involved in plots" at the moment. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
katandmoon
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 05:28 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. The NYT? Also known as Bush's stenographer? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ClarkUSA
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 05:31 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. Does Glenn Greenwald and the OP know that? Because they both cited the same NYT article as sources. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
vaberella
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 05:51 PM Response to Reply #84 |
91. *ZZZZZing* |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ClarkUSA
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 07:15 PM Response to Reply #91 |
110. *ZZZZZing* |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
vaberella
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 10:50 PM Response to Reply #110 |
141. Oh, it's for zinger. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Vattel
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 06:03 PM Response to Reply #79 |
95. The issue is whether the Constitution permits this, |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ClarkUSA
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 07:04 PM Response to Reply #95 |
105. Congress approved the use of military force against Al Qaeda after Sept. 11 |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Vattel
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 07:17 PM Response to Reply #105 |
113. That doesn't resolve the issue of what due process requires |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ClarkUSA
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 07:26 PM Response to Reply #113 |
116. You answered this yourself earlier... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Vattel
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 07:41 PM Response to Reply #116 |
122. I left out the "not" at the end of that post and posted it |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ClarkUSA
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 07:50 PM Response to Reply #122 |
124. Thank you for your thoughtful reply. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Phx_Dem
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 07:17 PM Response to Reply #60 |
112. Not me. He's in a war zone plotting against his own country. If he gets killed, tough shit. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 08:00 PM Response to Reply #112 |
125. In a war zone with Yemen. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Ignis
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
89. Get with it, dude: Due process is SO 20th century! |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Vattel
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
109. We need more facts. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Sheepshank
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
119. Bush didn't even dare do this...some say? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 07:40 PM Response to Reply #119 |
121. Plame was not put on the CIA target list, not that we are |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
olegramps
![]() |
Thu Apr-08-10 08:31 AM Response to Reply #121 |
155. Have the birthers seen his birth certificate? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Aramchek
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
126. You did know that , Adam Gadahn, a US Citizen, has been on that list for years, right? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 08:16 PM Response to Reply #126 |
128. Can you show me that? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 09:26 PM Response to Reply #126 |
132. Still waiting on that info on Gadahn. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Robb
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 09:41 PM Response to Reply #132 |
133. 25 January, 2008. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 09:52 PM Response to Reply #133 |
135. That is different than being put on the target list. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Robb
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 09:57 PM Response to Reply #135 |
136. Trust me, if there was a list, he was on it. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 09:59 PM Response to Reply #136 |
137. How would you know? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Clio the Leo
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
130. If you're going to take someone out, why announce it to the world? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
vaberella
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 10:53 PM Response to Reply #130 |
144. Completely, hence the reason I decided to wait on more information. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Moochy
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
134. Yay! More non-Change I Don't Believe In! |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Name removed
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
138. Deleted message |
vaberella
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 10:54 PM Response to Reply #138 |
145. You won't last very long here. n/t |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
BklnDem75
![]() |
Thu Apr-08-10 09:09 AM Response to Reply #138 |
157. 16 posts and quoting Palin? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
treestar
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
139. There were other Al Qaeda members born in the U.S. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
livebythebeach
![]() |
Wed Apr-07-10 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
142. good show |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Hippo_Tron
![]() |
Thu Apr-08-10 01:42 AM Response to Original message |
148. Question, if an American citizen enlisted in the Nazi army during World War II (and several did) |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Cleobulus
![]() |
Thu Apr-08-10 01:52 AM Response to Reply #148 |
149. Actually yes, and that did happen a few times... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Thu Apr-08-10 06:40 AM Response to Reply #148 |
151. A couple of points. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
vaberella
![]() |
Fri Apr-09-10 05:19 AM Response to Reply #148 |
166. No one is killing anyone without a trial. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
olegramps
![]() |
Thu Apr-08-10 08:06 AM Response to Original message |
152. If Limbaugh, Hannity and Beck are on the list its ok by me. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
zulchzulu
![]() |
Thu Apr-08-10 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
156. God damn right! |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tekisui
![]() |
Thu Apr-08-10 12:14 PM Response to Reply #156 |
161. I missed the report that showed he has beheaded anyone. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Ter
![]() |
Fri Apr-09-10 02:00 AM Response to Original message |
163. The CIA doesn't need Obama's authorization |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Moochy
![]() |
Sat Apr-10-10 12:19 PM Response to Reply #163 |
171. Nothing to See Here |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Hell Hath No Fury
![]() |
Fri Apr-09-10 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
168. Thank you, again -- |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Name removed
![]() |
Sat Apr-10-10 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
169. Deleted message |
Jeff In Milwaukee
![]() |
Sat Apr-10-10 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
173. Good. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
DU
AdBot (1000+ posts) ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Mon Jun 24th 2024, 05:08 AM Response to Original message |
Advertisements [?] |
Top |
Home » Discuss » General Discussion: Presidency |
![]() |
Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators
Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.
Home | Discussion Forums | Journals | Store | Donate
About DU | Contact Us | Privacy Policy
Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.
© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC