McCain to Obama: Send troops to border if you don't like new immigration law

[babylonsister]

Phew! I'm sure President Obama was just waiting for advice from McCain!


McCain to Obama: Send troops to border if you don't like new immigration law
By Ian Swanson - 04/24/10 09:06 AM ET


President Barack Obama should dispatch National Guard troops to the border if he doesn’t like Arizona’s new immigration law, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said Friday.

McCain, who endorsed the tough new Arizona law earlier this week, defended it as necessary because of the federal government’s inability to secure the border.

“If the president doesn’t like what the Arizona Legislature and governor may be doing, then I call on the president to immediately call for the dispatch of 3,000 National Guard troops to our border and mandate that 3,000 additional Border Patrol {officers} be sent to our border as well,” McCain said at a news conference Friday in downtown Phoenix, according to a report in the Arizona Republic.

“And that way, then the state of Arizona will not have to enact legislation which they have to do because of the federal government’s failure to carry out its responsibilities, which is to secure the borders.”

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http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/94111-mccain-to-obama-send-troops-to-the-border-if-you-dont-like-new-immigration-law

[still_one]

1. The man who was against a day honoring Martin Luther King gives us this advice. Notice that

sending the National Guard troops would do nothing to change the Arizona anti-civil rights law

I have a better idea, boycott arizona until they repeal the law

[stray cat]

2. And some think there is no difference between Obama and McCain....

[impik]

12. No one in their right mind thinks so. Only pure, crazy, racists haters, from the Left too

[treestar]

28. It's crazy, isn't it?

[Kahuna]

3. Let bushco and mcfailin be daily reminders of the importance of voting..

:scared:

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[iamjoy]

5. That's Just Wrong

I disagree with McCain on most issues and he may well be senile, but I don't look forward to his death. Of course, if you are speaking metaphorically McCain died years ago.

[AllentownJake]

6. Sorry John, they are busy in Iraq and Afghanistan at the moment

You know those two wars you want more troops for.

[iamjoy]

7. They're In Iraq...

Senator McCain, President Obama can't send troops to secure our border because so many of them are in Iraq - where you voted to send them. Don't you want to cut spending, too? Have you been proposing bills to increase funding for the INS to go after employers who hire illegals or would that be inconvenient because you aren't really sure who is doing the landscaping at your 8 homes (pardon me, your wife's 8 homes)? Even if you strictly hire legals, there's a good chance not all your friends and contributors do the same.

I understand Senator. You're in a tough re-election bid against a teabagger and he may just defeat you. So you think that to win the nomination of your party you have to pander to its worst elements. You've even gone so far as to deny you were ever a maverick

[Gman]

8. McCain looks ridiculous when he tries to out RW-crazy JD Hayworth

[tekisui]

9. That is his answer to everything. Thanks, but no thanks.

[DrToast]

10. And start with McCain. (nt)

*

[Paladin]

11. And To Think I Once Harbored Respect For This Pathetic Old Man. (n/t)

[LiberalFighter]

13. McCain should move all of his houses to the border and keep an eye on those illegals.

Oh and he can invite Palin to watch from the front porches.

[LiberalFighter]

14. If Arizona had really wanted to help prevent the problem of illegal immigration across their borders

They would not had allowed any communities to exist near the border.

Right across from Agua Prieta there is Douglas. It has a golf course and airport. There is junior college and another airport just a few miles west of Douglas.

They just have too many airports, golf courses and colleges near the border.

:sarcasm:

But seriously, is Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument one of those places that illegals travel through to avoid detection? If so, then why the hell did Arizona build a highway all the way through it to the border?

And if Google is accurate it also appears that Mexico has a highway west of Sonoita that cuts across the USA border into the same park.

[Bette Noir]

20. Yes. I try to go to Organ Pipe every year for the wildflowers.

There are signs posted, advising against hiking or talking to strangers. Some of the times I've been there, the place is crawling with armed military, and cars are inspected as they leave. It's not what you expect from a national park experience, but the flowers are great. Too bad I can't go this year.

(If it's not obvious, I can't go because I object to the new law, and refuse to spend money in AZ until it's repealed or overturned by the courts.)

[LiberalFighter]

15. The reason all those illegals are trying to enter Arizona

is because they heard that McCain has so many houses. They figured that everyone in Arizona has 7 or more homes.

So it is McCain's fault that they want to cross into Arizona.

[treestar]

27. LOL

And then why aren't Texas, California and New Mexico panicked? Why is it worse for AZ! You may have hit on the mavericky answer! :rofl:

[Webster Green]

16. Might be a good idea to send in the troops.

Not for the purpose Gramps McLame has in mind though.

Remember Little Rock, Arkansas?

On September 24, 1957, President Eisenhower ordered the 101st Airborne Division of the United States Army to Little Rock and federalized the entire 10,000 member Arkansas National Guard, taking it out of the hands of Governor Faubus.

[Bad Thoughts]

17. Our soldiers aren't police

Whatever McCain's logic is, he should know better than anyone that American soldiers are not trained to do policing work. They are not trained to be gendarmes, to replace law enforcement in the United States or in any country for that matter. Part of our problems with the occupation in Iraq stem directly from this fundamental weakness in our armed forces. Moreover, it was a problem created by Republican policies: concentrating the soldiers solely on combat operations was a way of ensuring that the our military would be only used for combat, "winning wars", rather than used in peacekeeping operations.

[political_Dem]

18. Each day, McCain becomes more and more loathsome.

This is especially the case when a "man of the military" talks down to his Commander-in-Chief and barks orders at him as if the POTUS is below him.

Talk about entitled behavior and lack of respect.

[notadmblnd]

19. Isn't it the Governor's job to call out the National Guard in a State?

[jenmito]

21. Nobody takes John "I've never considered myself a maverick" McCain seriously anymore...

everyone knows he's just trying to look more conservative/crazy RW than J.D. Hayworth.

[GoldenOldie]

22. McCain's POW status doesn't make him a military expert!

John McCain has gotten by on using his NAM POW claim to fame.....poor John, he was tortured and brutalized by his captors thus he has earned his birth to death benefits and his seat of powers. Give me a break! I have family and friends which saw and felt more of the death and brutalization of wars than John McCain. Veteran/Senator John McCain and Senator Kyl have done nothing for our service members be they Active Duty, Reserves or Guard. McCain and Kyl (my Senators),no nothing about
the problems on the Borders other than what they read or hear in the media or from their rare Town Hall campaign visit.

Now Arizona Republican/Tea bagging Legislatures in all of their wisdom have passed laws to perform racial profiling, do away with gun permits, allowing anyone to sell and carry concealed weapons on our streets, schools, Church's, bars, etc., etc., etc. The Arizona Borders will now have not only US Federal Border Agents, local residents, various militia and skinhead groups and then add regular changes of US Military......all fully armed, and hyped to shoot any moving target. It doesn't take many brain cells to know that this is disaster awaiting to happen.

McCain and Kyl represent a State with a large population of American Indians noted for their warrior and tracking skills a few which are being presently utilized to track the drug runners and coyotes. Yet neither McCain nor Kyl have studied nor reviewed the possibilities of using these very skilled citizens on a bigger scale. These two men are neither leaders nor border or military experts so what they have to say means little.

[Webster Green]

23. When he wasn't wrecking airplanes, he was bombing innocent civilians.

"Death From Above" was his sick, cowardly motto. :thumbsdown:

[jenmito]

24. I know!

And he MAY have finally jumped the shark with his maverick comment.

[Jennicut]

25. Stationing the National Guard at the border will do nothing to stop people from trying to get in.

The issues of why they are trying to get in are not addressed and it is just an endless cycle. McLame knows better, pandering old non-maverick asshole.

[pampango]

31. John should suggest using ex-border guards from East Germany. They're all unemployed now.

East German and Soviet leaders knew that the root causes why East Germans wanted to emigrate were not going to change. (That would have been bad for the welfare of these same leaders.)

They also knew that a wall by itself wasn't going to stop people unless you have an army willing to back it up with force. Their wall and guards were quite successful (though not perfect) at limiting emigration. Of course, back in the day, most of us thought that the "East German" system of border control was not exactly the most progressive.

I doubt that your average National Guard person is as ruthless as most East German border guards were trained to be. An army on the border won't help, unless it is willing to shoot. When the East Germans stopped shooting in 1989, the wall proved useless.

I don't know if John would see the irony of hiring foreigners to patrol a wall designed to keep other foreigners out, but that is another discussion.) ;)

[Jennicut]

33. That is exactly what it reminds me of. And unless there was shooting, it wouldn't stop

the people from trying to sneak it. It might limit it somewhat but not stop it.

[treestar]

26. It would look ridiculous

An army against poor people who are on foot and unarmed.

The image of it as an invasion is ridiculous. An invasion would be the Mexican army. This is just migration which humans on the planet have done forever.

Pathetic old McWar sees everything in those terms.

[Vattel]

29. If we secure the border,

then how will needy people be able to immigrate?

[Cha]

30. mcpalin is full of hot

toxic air..and did he ever have the ability to deal in facts instead of rw gaseous rhetoric?

[BlueIdaho]

32. I agree!

The President should send federal troops to seal off the norther, eastern, and western borders of Arizona. Nothing goes in, nothing comes out.

[sudopod]

34. We didn't want to violate your civil liberties,

Obama made us do it!