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Clio the Leo
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Wed May-05-10 09:36 AM Original message |
"Dem Turnout Falls Off A Cliff" |
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Kdillard
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Wed May-05-10 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
1. I am just going to shake my head. |
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Clio the Leo
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Wed May-05-10 09:46 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. We dont need to shake our heads.... |
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Kdillard
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Wed May-05-10 09:50 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Very true but how can any Dem not realize how important voting is right now. |
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Clio the Leo
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Wed May-05-10 10:06 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. A LOT of folks thought their work was done on 11/4/08... |
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QC
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Wed May-05-10 01:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
34. Have Dan Choi's circumstances improved since then? |
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Clio the Leo
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Wed May-05-10 03:48 PM Response to Reply #34 |
58. And if we all had the sense of urgency that Dan has..... |
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WI_DEM
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Thu May-06-10 08:30 AM Response to Reply #8 |
99. And anybody who hasn't seen the change since Obama came in is not paying attention |
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tabbycat31
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Wed May-05-10 11:55 AM Response to Reply #4 |
25. great great example |
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GOTV
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Fri May-07-10 09:17 AM Response to Reply #4 |
108. How can elected Dems not realize how important it to PRODUCE right now ... |
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1955doubledie
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Wed May-05-10 01:05 PM Response to Reply #2 |
35. Well... |
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depakid
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Wed May-05-10 09:47 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Why? |
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denverbill
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Wed May-05-10 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
5. Democrats obviously need to move more to the right. /sarcasm |
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SwampG8r
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Wed May-05-10 01:19 PM Response to Reply #5 |
39. ooooh .....snap!!! |
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riverdale
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Wed May-05-10 10:45 PM Response to Reply #5 |
90. more offshore drilling too |
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Hawkowl
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Fri May-07-10 12:38 PM Response to Reply #5 |
111. Well said. |
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Jennicut
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Wed May-05-10 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
6. Usually, when your party is in power, you are not as motivated. |
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depakid
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Wed May-05-10 10:00 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. It helps when the party in power doesn't spend much of its time |
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joe black
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Wed May-05-10 10:25 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Or burn the young voters. |
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Peacetrain
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Wed May-05-10 10:28 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Yeah right... they can stay on their parents insurance.. they got a break |
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dionysus
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Wed May-05-10 12:05 PM Response to Reply #11 |
26. yeah they really got burned by that student loan reform and shit. |
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ClarkUSA
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Wed May-05-10 01:19 PM Response to Reply #11 |
38. Yeah, staying on their parent's insurance plan until 26 is a real "back stabbing" move. |
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ClarkUSA
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Wed May-05-10 01:16 PM Response to Reply #7 |
37. lol! Prove it. |
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Proud Liberal Dem
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Wed May-05-10 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
9. Is turnout in a primary indicative of anything? |
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depakid
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Wed May-05-10 10:21 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. It's indicative of enthusiasm |
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Ganja Ninja
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Wed May-05-10 10:28 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Or it's indicative of the turmoil on the right. |
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depakid
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Wed May-05-10 10:37 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. One has to balance out the other |
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Proud Liberal Dem
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Wed May-05-10 01:52 PM Response to Reply #12 |
44. That's what the SIX-WAY GOP Senate Primary was about |
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Aramchek
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Wed May-05-10 12:41 PM Response to Reply #10 |
32. have another vegemite sandwich, mate |
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depakid
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Wed May-05-10 08:16 PM Response to Reply #32 |
78. It's actually quite good on toast |
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QC
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Wed May-05-10 10:18 PM Response to Reply #78 |
85. I prefer Marmite. n/t |
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Proud Liberal Dem
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Wed May-05-10 02:06 PM Response to Reply #10 |
46. Maybe. Maybe not |
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emulatorloo
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Wed May-05-10 02:52 PM Response to Reply #10 |
54. No it is indicative of enthusiasm for voting in a primary that may be non-competitive |
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phleshdef
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Wed May-05-10 10:47 AM Response to Reply #9 |
16. Yea, its indicative of a non-Presidential primary election. |
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polichick
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Wed May-05-10 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
15. That's what happens when Dem leaders sell out the base. nt |
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ClarkUSA
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Wed May-05-10 05:29 PM Response to Reply #15 |
69. Funny how all the approval polls disprove this meme quite clearly, eh? |
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polichick
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Wed May-05-10 08:12 PM Response to Reply #69 |
77. Looks like those approval polls didn't get 'em out to vote. nt |
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ClarkUSA
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Wed May-05-10 08:47 PM Response to Reply #77 |
81. That isn't surprising, given historical precedent and the nature of the races mentioned in the OP. |
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Go2Peace
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Wed May-05-10 10:17 PM Response to Reply #69 |
84. Party affiliation continues to drop heavily. Wake up. |
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polichick
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Thu May-06-10 06:50 AM Response to Reply #84 |
97. +1 |
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Jokerman
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Wed May-05-10 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
17. My Indiana Democratic Ballot had no real contests. |
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freddie mertz
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Wed May-05-10 11:04 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Agreed. Rule 1: Don't disappoint the activist base. |
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harun
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Wed May-05-10 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
18. Should have passed a Public Option. |
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Jakes Progress
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Wed May-05-10 01:45 PM Response to Reply #18 |
42. But, but if we did that, the republicans wouldn't vote for us. nt |
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Enthusiast
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Thu May-06-10 04:54 AM Response to Reply #18 |
91. Yes. Voters are justifiably |
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harun
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Thu May-06-10 08:41 AM Response to Reply #91 |
100. My Blue Dog Congressman will likely get voted out. He was for a PO |
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Lorien
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Thu May-06-10 10:00 PM Response to Reply #18 |
103. Yep. The party looks both weak and bought. nt |
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blm
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Wed May-05-10 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
20. Tim Kaine returned to Clinton's target state strategy, neglecting states Chairman Dean revived with |
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amborin
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Wed May-05-10 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
21. that's what happens when you run on a Public Option & and then deny having done so |
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progressoid
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Wed May-05-10 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
22. Not surprised. |
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grantcart
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Wed May-05-10 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
23. It would be an interesting angle IF repeat IF |
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harkadog
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Wed May-05-10 12:22 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. There were competitive state primasries in all of those states |
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Proud Liberal Dem
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Wed May-05-10 02:09 PM Response to Reply #29 |
48. I can't speak for all of those states |
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KingFlorez
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Wed May-05-10 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
24. Neither side is motivated |
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Wed May-05-10 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
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Arkana
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Wed May-05-10 12:25 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. +1 |
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struggle4progress
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Wed May-05-10 12:48 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. It's not a load of crap. Elections are all about GOTV |
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TheKentuckian
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Wed May-05-10 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
28. You don't win sweeping victories and then track right to seek "the middle" |
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Enthusiast
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Thu May-06-10 04:58 AM Response to Reply #28 |
92. The one that decided on this |
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rudy23
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Wed May-05-10 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
31. Well, when you shit on the exact people who turned out to elect Obama, that will happen. |
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ClarkUSA
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Wed May-05-10 01:13 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Bullshit. A very large majority of self-described liberals approve of Pres. Obama's job performance |
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rudy23
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Wed May-05-10 01:40 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. As evidenced by the continued momentum from the '08 campaign, right? |
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ClarkUSA
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Wed May-05-10 04:29 PM Response to Reply #40 |
60. Apples and oranges much? n/t |
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Wed May-05-10 01:47 PM Response to Reply #36 |
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polichick
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Wed May-05-10 02:08 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. I guess environmentalists and global warming activists are a small fringe too. nt |
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QC
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Wed May-05-10 02:13 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Don't forget teachers, peace and social justice advocates, and civil libertarians. n/t |
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Teka
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Wed May-05-10 02:15 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. That fringe is looking pretty much like the party |
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polichick
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Wed May-05-10 02:36 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Exactly! :) |
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ClarkUSA
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Wed May-05-10 04:52 PM Response to Reply #51 |
66. The fringe represents the small fraction of Democrats who disapprove of Pres. Obama. |
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ClarkUSA
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Wed May-05-10 04:50 PM Response to Reply #49 |
65. Yeah, sure. As if you speak for all of them. |
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Go2Peace
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Wed May-05-10 10:44 PM Response to Reply #65 |
89. Unfortunately GD Presidential and beltway circlesdo not represent reality |
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Go2Peace
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Wed May-05-10 10:41 PM Response to Reply #49 |
88. +1000! Democrats are better educated. They understand that their values are being compromised. |
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ClarkUSA
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Wed May-05-10 04:48 PM Response to Reply #47 |
64. So now you speak for them? lol! n/t |
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Arkana
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Wed May-05-10 02:25 PM Response to Reply #43 |
52. Wow, where did you get all that from? |
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TheKentuckian
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Wed May-05-10 01:54 PM Response to Reply #36 |
45. Then what's the point of the discussion? Everything is fine. Democrats will be out in |
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ClarkUSA
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Wed May-05-10 04:32 PM Response to Reply #45 |
61. Discussion is fine. Approval polls refute rudy23's blame game. n/t |
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rudy23
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Wed May-05-10 06:59 PM Response to Reply #61 |
74. Wow, the fourth time I've heard "blame game" today. Katrina-retro! I love it. |
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ClarkUSA
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Wed May-05-10 07:26 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Glad you like it. It's an apt term, isn't it? |
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rudy23
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Wed May-05-10 08:05 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. It's Rove's term, isn't it? |
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ClarkUSA
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Wed May-05-10 08:43 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. Is it? It appears you would know more about that than I do. |
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freddie mertz
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Thu May-06-10 06:26 AM Response to Reply #80 |
95. ClarkUSA, agenda-free truth-teller. |
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Proud Liberal Dem
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Wed May-05-10 02:15 PM Response to Reply #36 |
50. Some seem to want to make THAT the issue |
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ClarkUSA
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Wed May-05-10 04:33 PM Response to Reply #50 |
62. You're right, as usual. |
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Proud Liberal Dem
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Wed May-05-10 05:39 PM Response to Reply #62 |
71. Well, I wouldn't go THAT far |
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ClarkUSA
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Wed May-05-10 06:23 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. There is definitely a media narrative to supports your point. |
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Teka
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Wed May-05-10 03:37 PM Response to Reply #36 |
57. Like gays and lesbians? |
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ClarkUSA
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Wed May-05-10 04:33 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. Yeah, that's why "Gay Vets To Meet With White House Next Week re: DADT" |
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Teka
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Wed May-05-10 05:16 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. More action, less talk |
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ClarkUSA
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Wed May-05-10 05:25 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. In this case, talk will lead to "more action" as the participants will tell you. |
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Wed May-05-10 05:43 PM Response to Reply #68 |
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Fri May-07-10 10:00 AM Response to Reply #68 |
110. "Prove that they are" - Ahh the arrogance that will drive dem voters to the polls |
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Go2Peace
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Wed May-05-10 10:27 PM Response to Reply #36 |
86. You have surrounded yourself with peers. You are insulated from the truth friend |
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Fri May-07-10 09:03 AM Response to Reply #36 |
107. The sad fact is that many Democrats and most importantly the Independents don't agree with you. |
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GOTV
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Fri May-07-10 09:32 AM Response to Reply #36 |
109. I "approve" of his performance too - doesn't mean my enthusiasm hasn't taken a blow to the nuts... |
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Thu May-06-10 04:59 AM Response to Reply #31 |
93. They don't want a majority. |
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rudy23
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Thu May-06-10 10:24 AM Response to Reply #93 |
101. I agree---they want permanent minority status. Both parties advance the conservative agenda. |
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Lorien
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Thu May-06-10 10:03 PM Response to Reply #93 |
104. It's easier to pass pro-corporate legislation |
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Teka
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Wed May-05-10 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
41. Well, if the Democratic Party and it's head (Obama) |
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ClarkUSA
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Wed May-05-10 09:57 PM Response to Reply #41 |
83. Um, Obama hasn't been president for "the past two years". |
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emulatorloo
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Wed May-05-10 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
55. It is weird -- most of the replies seemed designed to SUPPRESS Democratic voter turnout, |
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mkultra
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Wed May-05-10 08:19 PM Response to Reply #55 |
79. demostrates a general lack of support for dems in congress |
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ClarkUSA
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Wed May-05-10 08:54 PM Response to Reply #55 |
82. The article is hyperbolic, given that there were few competitive Democratic primary races |
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Go2Peace
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Wed May-05-10 10:38 PM Response to Reply #55 |
87. I will be voting solidly for Dems, but that does not change the truth that we have a serious problem |
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Wed May-05-10 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
56. ill be |
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Wed May-05-10 03:58 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. and something else |
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Wed May-05-10 05:33 PM Response to Reply #56 |
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Thu May-06-10 06:24 AM Response to Original message |
94. My wife and I have voted in every election for the last 20 years, and I believe |
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Thu May-06-10 06:44 AM Response to Original message |
96. My husband and I will definitely turn up to vote for Dems in November, |
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Thu May-06-10 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
98. I live in Indiana and I voted...nt |
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SteppingRazor
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Thu May-06-10 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
102. A silver lining: GOP voter enthusiasm cut in half: |
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Thu May-06-10 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
105. Duh ... n/t |
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Fri May-07-10 12:09 AM Response to Original message |
106. I'm in Indiana and I didn't vote |
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