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Political Tiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 02:41 PM Original message |
EXCLUSIVE: Debunking the myth of Obama's "BP cash" |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
1. Her fucking husband used to WORK for BP |
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Political Tiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 02:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. That woman is an idiot! n/t |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 02:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. That's where I heard "BP" |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 03:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Why gripe on Bozo? He didn't do anything wrong. |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
3. i was arguing with some guy on facebook |
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Arkansas Granny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 03:06 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. I read something about this the other day. Supposedly, the first three |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 03:08 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Wrong indeed! My father and I were both born in MA |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 03:57 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. The area numbers for those having their SSN issued from within MA are from: |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 03:50 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. They indicate the state where the person made their application. |
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Sheepshank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 09:25 AM Response to Reply #13 |
57. 5 in our family |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 11:37 AM Response to Reply #57 |
65. Check this out |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 10:43 AM Response to Reply #13 |
63. Correct. I was born in NV, but got my SS# assigned in CO, when I was 11 or 12. |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 06:09 PM Response to Reply #8 |
44. my husband and i were both born in |
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madmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 09:05 AM Response to Reply #8 |
56. That is wrong, my hubby and I were born in different states but the first three numbers on our |
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BklnDem75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 03:12 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. Social security # is Birther Mythology |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 06:10 PM Response to Reply #10 |
45. he was annoying. not even my friend, but a |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 04:02 PM Response to Reply #3 |
15. I'm confused about the SS# thingie too. Back in the days Obama was born, |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 06:12 PM Response to Reply #15 |
46. my son was born in '61 like obama. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 07:15 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Actually, it is not "mandatory" now, but... |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 04:40 PM Response to Reply #3 |
17. The SSN thing is a birther spinoff theory |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 10:40 AM Response to Reply #3 |
62. How have birthers become privy to Obama's SS#? Just curious. |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 01:51 PM Response to Reply #62 |
82. here's one of the links. |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
5. it's a legitimate observation |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 04:46 PM Response to Reply #5 |
19. "how they include donations mostly from employees of those corporations" |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 05:37 PM Response to Reply #19 |
35. Did you look at the donation form? |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 08:24 AM Response to Reply #35 |
54. yeah, im aware of that. |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 09:39 AM Response to Reply #54 |
58. what I'm saying is that... |
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DatManFromNawlins (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 10:03 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Sure, but you can't ignore the fact that... |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 10:07 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. I totally agree |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 10:13 AM Response to Reply #60 |
61. If they say it, they must say that it is from employees |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:25 PM Response to Reply #59 |
83. Yeah, and in that context 70K would be chicken feed |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
6. Thanks Political Tiger! |
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Political Tiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 03:26 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Hi Cha! Good to see you too! |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 03:38 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. I took a break yesterday and |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
16. Good. Then he should have no trouble returning every penny of it. Or better yet... |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 04:42 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. WTF? |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 04:46 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. If BP money to doesnt matter, then WTF is the point of the OP? |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 04:49 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. There is no need to 'excuse' him from offering to return |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 04:55 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. The article says he got over $71K |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 04:49 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Wow. This post makes less sense than your first one |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 04:50 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Obama should offer to return all that money he never got, |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 04:52 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. The article says he got over $71K |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 05:37 PM Response to Reply #27 |
36. $71K from employees, not the company. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 05:46 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. No- he donates it to the clean up effort, then challenges the GOP/Blue Dogs to do the same. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 05:53 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. It's a campaign fund, not a personal slush fund |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 11:41 AM Response to Reply #43 |
66. I'd love to see Obama challenge the GOP & the Blue Dogs to return their Big Oil contributions. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 04:50 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. So the public would oppose Obama if he gave the $75K to the clean up effort... |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 05:31 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. Yikes. |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 11:05 AM Response to Reply #25 |
64. again with the smear |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 11:43 AM Response to Reply #64 |
67. I'd love to see Obama challenge the GOP & the Blue Dogs to return their Big Oil contributions |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 12:17 PM Response to Reply #67 |
78. or just make BP pay for it. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 12:23 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. What is wrong with doing both? I might add he should promise to oppose any tax breaks or subsidies.. |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 12:52 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. two people cant pay for the same frickin thing |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:15 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. So you dont think Obama should come out against subsidies & tax breaks for BP? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 09:14 PM Response to Reply #84 |
88. Deleted message |
Fruittree (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:25 AM Response to Reply #20 |
53. I think the point made is that he took money from |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 11:46 AM Response to Reply #53 |
68. I also made the point that Blue Dog DEMS are taking money from Big Oil... |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 04:48 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. because its stupid. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 04:54 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. His DEM donors would be offended if he gave his BP money to the clean up efforts... |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 06:47 PM Response to Reply #28 |
47. His "BP Money" was from individual DEMOCRATS who work for BP |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 11:54 AM Response to Reply #47 |
71. So BP executives & CEOs are Democrats? My guess is they gave to both parties. |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 04:05 PM Response to Reply #71 |
87. How do you know it was a board member? Seriously? |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 07:25 PM Response to Reply #28 |
50. Just you. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 11:58 AM Response to Reply #50 |
73. If Obama challenged the GOP & the Blue Dogs to give up their Big Oil contributions.... |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 04:03 PM Response to Reply #73 |
86. Sorry, I live in a reality based world. |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 08:26 AM Response to Reply #28 |
55. nah, thats ridiculous and petty. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 12:05 PM Response to Reply #55 |
75. I'd love to see Obama challenge the GOP & the Blue Dogs to return their Big Oil contributions. |
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Political Tiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 04:51 PM Response to Reply #16 |
26. What part of....... |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 04:58 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. So you are saying that no BP CEOs or top executive's donations... |
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Political Tiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 05:13 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Who cares? |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 05:43 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. So our excuse is "We cant do the right thing b/c the GOP will do the wrong thing." |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 05:34 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Yes |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 05:45 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. Cool. So why cant he give the $75K to the clean up effort then? |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 05:52 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. For a couple of reasons |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 11:49 AM Response to Reply #42 |
69. I'd love to see Obama challenge the GOP & the Blue Dogs to give up their Big Oil contributions. |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 07:23 PM Response to Reply #39 |
49. Why? Some People at BP are Democrats just like the rest of us. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 11:52 AM Response to Reply #49 |
70. I think the American people would support such a effort. |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 04:02 PM Response to Reply #70 |
85. You keep reposting the same text, but fail to address the question |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 05:36 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Top stockholders are usually pension funds. nt |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 05:47 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. I doubt the pension holders would be upset if he gave it up to the clean up effort... |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 11:57 AM Response to Reply #16 |
72. Legally, I think you cannot take money used for a campaign donation |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 12:02 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. And who is going to bring the court case against him- BP? Haliburton? The GOP? LOL! |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 12:11 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. Um, letting anyone get away with that would set a precedent and then |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 12:19 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. If he has to give the $76K out of his own pocket, I'm fine with that. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-24-10 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
37. Not one dollar |
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merkins (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 01:18 AM Response to Original message |
51. Obama is Top Recipient of Political Cash from BP, Goldman Sachs, Defense Contractors, Pharma |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 01:57 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. His biggest donor employer: University of California |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 12:09 PM Response to Reply #52 |
76. If University Professors were destroying our ecosystem, you might have a point. |
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