Oh, that was too good

[impik]

The president using Rachel Maddow to present all the great stuff that he has done. Facts can be such a bitch.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so-Uuooz-Zo

[jenmito]

1. K&R so this thread doesn't sink. n/t

[impik]

3. Thank you. We really must spread this. If we won't - no one will.

[jenmito]

5. It looks like no-one (else) will. Kick again.

[Tarheel_Dem]

2. Excellent! (nt)

[monmouth]

4. The editing and message was superb. Rachel is a true professional

and would never mention it if she was asked not to, but I wonder if she and the WH, maybe even POTUS have chit chats now and then. They must consider her a great asset, and why not? She's wonderful. That noise you hear is CNN and the other RWers heads exploding, who think bloggers are cowards...Poor souls....Hahahaha. Go Rachel!

[elleng]

6. PRAYED that they would hear her, and they DID!

[dgibby]

41. She, and a few other journalists,

attended a luncheon with the President shortly before she aired that.

[Moosepoop]

7. K&R! n/t

[Pisces]

8. K&R

[boppers]

9. Kayandarr! eom

[Ross K]

10. K&R

[handmade34]

11. Kick

[DevonRex]

12. K&R. Wonderful. nt

[SunsetDreams]

13. K&R!!

Brilliant!

[hwmnbn]

14. was it the WH or...

someone at netroots nation that did the editing?

hmmmm....

Either way, it got the point across.

[Raine1967]

15. Oh daym --

Rach is gonna be buried under that old tree out back now, isn't she?

[boppers]

16. The tree that was thrown under the shark?

I can't keep all of these straight... heck, it wasn't until today that I finally got the woodchuck thing (which I thought was related to freepers, and their form of tombstoning, because of the internet oracle...)

[lillypaddle]

54. I'm still trying to figure out the woodchuck thingee

any clue would be appreciated. :)

[dhpgetsit]

17. I have had reason to criticize Obama but not once did I regret voting for him.

I know we can reelect him and keep both houses of Congress. And if we change the rules in the Senate, we can accomplish a lot more next session.

[gateley]

18. I like that - not once regretting voting for him.

That sums up how I feel even though at times I want to wring his neck. Thanks! :hi:

[bobburgster]

19. "...though at times I want to wring his neck."

I agree with dhpgetsit post....and yours :)

[classof56]

23. And I agree with all three of ya!

More than glad and relieved Obama is our president, disappointed and annoyed with him about some things, but hey--I occasionally feel that way about my spouse of 43 years. Awfully glad he's here, though--feel the same about the Prez!

:fistbump:

[PatSeg]

36. Same here

Still think he was the best choice for the times we're living in and never really expected to agree with him all the time. It will be interesting to see how we look back on his presidency years from now.

[zipplewrath]

40. Probably like Clinton

What do you hear the most of out of the Clinton presidency? DADT, NAFTA, DOMA, and the surplus. Strangely, the only thing that we still have are the stuff we're trying to get rid of. I suspect in 10 years we'll be taking about how health care is unaffordable, and how we don't wanna get bogged down in "another Afghanistan". It will be interesting to see if we're still having to talk about "what to do with those prisoners in Illinois".

[PatSeg]

42. There's also Bosnia

which Clinton gets little credit for, probably because it didn't cost as much in lives and money as Iraq and Afghanistan.

Still too soon to know what Obama's presidency will be remembered for, but hope I'm around to read about it as history.

[zipplewrath]

43. That's sorta the point

There are many things for which Clinton could get "credit", but they generally don't last long after you're gone. Truth is, most presidents that do get fondly remembered, are often remembered for things they didn't really do. Reagan wasn't much of a conservative, and never even proposed a balanced budget. His government was bigger when he left that when he arrived. But he's remembered as a small government conservative.

Kennedy is seen as some champion of civil rights, but he dragged his feet on civil rights. Those inside the movement don't remember him particularly fondly. LBJ was the real deal to them, and maybe Bobby.

[PatSeg]

45. Those examples popped in my head as well

Most memories of the Reagan years are pure fantasy and don't resemble the time or president I remember at all. LBJ gets little credit for civil rights or his war on poverty because of Vietnam, and Kennedy received far more credit than he deserved because of his tragic, untimely death.

[Chulanowa]

44. He also got us out of Somalia

I've seen more than a few on the left who completely forget that Somalia was a parting gift from Poppy. But then there are people who think reagan freed the Iranian hostages.

I guess it's easy to forget that there are two months between election and inauguration

[PatSeg]

46. And already people are forgetting

who gave us the financial collapse and two disastrous wars. Many out there still believe that it was Obama, not GW who pushed TARP through. And if it is repeated often enough, it will become part of the nation's consciousness.

[Flying Dream Blues]

25. This is how I feel exactly. nt

[Hekate]

20. KnR That was a treat.

[ProgressOnTheMove]

21. Also very useful in that it gives her show promo too, a 'two-fer.'

[Historic NY]

22. "choice we have in Nov, going forward or going backward ...

to the policies that got us into this mess"...

I guess some here won't agree and will sit home on their hands.

[Bluenorthwest]

24. Using her is the right choice of words

Because he does not believe Rachel should have rights equal to his own. She supports him, but the favor is not returned in kind. That is in fact 'using' her as opposed to working with her, or supporting her goals.
It is just ironic that the one person who is speaking words you like to hear is subjected to discriminatory laws that are favored by the President, who holds that marriage is only to be practiced according to his chosen dogmas and opinions based not on reality, but upon things unseen and unprovable, the very opposite of the vaunted Pragmatic thinking.
So there you go. Revel in the irony that those with full rights who oppose equality for Rachel, need to 'use' her to make their own points. This makes it difficult, pragmatically, to state that Rachel is lesser than anyone, don't you think? I mean, how can her opinion matter if she is not even worthy of having equal protection under the law?
I guess the President thinks she's right about everything but wrong about who she loves. So he will still use her, while opposing her equal standing.
It is what it is kids. Apparently, he needs teh gay. I note that this information does not come from McClurkin, Warren, the 'faith community' nor from the Obamacans. It comes from teh gay. And yet teh gay keep being told that we are not supportive enough. Except when we get 'used' to make a point others were unable to make on their own straight path, for some straight reason.

[Richardo]

27. Good thing you pointed it out - I'm sure Rachel had no idea about any of that stuff......

...or that the President was going to show that clip. But nothing gets by you! :thumbsup:

[Bluenorthwest]

31. Thanks for the snark!

Of course, I had not a word to say about what Rachel knows, which is more than I do about her position, just as I know more about mine. Her job and mine are not the same, complimentary, but different. She does as she does, so that others can do as we do.
The snark just highlights the lack of ability to see the stark irony of being eloquently defended by a person you say is not worthy of equal rights in a basic way, a person you say God thinks of as less than other people. That is ironic. It is in fact, pitiful, telling, and exactly why Rachel is a brilliant advocate for not just the gay community, but for liberals of all kinds. Rachel does not need to point out the irony, she is providing the irony. She is putting a personal face on the vast political debt owed in this area.
He is against her equal rights, yet he needs to make use of her mind for his advantage. This is ironic, unfortunately. And hopefully, just for the time being. The second act is not the end, so don't stress about it too much. There is activism going on, that's all. You'll be fine and the President will be finer.

[12AngryBorneoWildmen]

37. From the King of Snark

My second post ever was all upbeat and Rah, Rah and someone, yes someone responded; "You completely missed the point of the OP. Try again." Thanks. I wish I was a self certified ax man.

[hfojvt]

32. it comes from teh gay?

Seems to me that it comes from a well-paid TV person who happens to be gay. Like there is no way a straight person could or would string together a list of the President's accomplishments.

[liberation]

34. Yeah, but that is not what the previous poster was talking about at all...

.

[tomp]

26. exactly what i expected would come out of lunch with the president. nt

[Enrique]

28. Maddow has credibility with the netroots

I would guess.

[teewrex]

29. I'm still proud that he's our President

[MadMaddie]

30. I am too!

Welcome to DU!:hi:

[liquid diamond]

33. K&R

[PatSeg]

35. That was great

Rachel summed up the administration's accomplishments better than they do. She is truly an effective communicator.

Made the mistake of reading the comments though. Do not recommend it. Too much crazy for a Sunday afternoon.

[Lifelong Protester]

38. I appreciate all of you folks who go through youtube

flicks to post here (I am afraid I would waste a lot of time if I visited there). I agree, there is just not enough touting of the good-to-great things that have been accomplished by this admin. so far.

And I will NOT be sitting home in November.

[caseymoz]

39. Things he has accomplished that have taken us backward.

He has extended unlimited Executive Branch authority, institutionalizing the Bush administration abuses we all decried.

He has ordered the assassination, and of an American citizen. Worse than summary execution.

He has failed to close Guantanamo and, in fact, runs even worse prisons in Afghanistan, like Bagram.

He has extended the secret government, extended warrantless wiretapping of US citizens.

He has refused to prosecute Bush administration criminals. . .

I'm sorry, until he does something to reverse these, I can't see the guy as anything but somewhat better than pure evil. which would be Bush and the Republicans, which would mean he'd still kind of have my vote, but don't expect me to be enthusiastic about it. It's enough to depress me . . . on election day . . . when I might not vote.

[FrenchieCat]

47. I've written him a letter asking that he sleeps with his magic wand in hand

just for you. That's the only way to get perfection, I told him.....
that or become a fucking dictator, and then let the media railroad you
out of office ASAP!

[zipplewrath]

48. That's a nonsequitor

The poster is talking about the things he did that they didn't like. That has nothing to do with magic wands. That has to do with actually accomplishing things that the poster considered counterproductive.

[caseymoz]

50. These aren't small things!!! These are the very basis of the country. . .

That he immediately joined Bush in trouncing into the dust, and hasn't changed his pace since!

It doesn't require a magic wand or any kind of magic, either. To drop court cases or change the executive's position on them? It required only a certain lack of cynicism.

It may be argued that it's not really Obama, but unseen powers behind him that are doing this. That doesn't explain his vote on removing FISA restrictions in the senate when he was a candidate. He was at least sending a signal to those powers that he was willing to go along with them.

And besides, if he is helpless against unseen powers behind the presidency, then he's figurehead. And a rather compliant one. Why should I vote either way on that?

[cliffordu]

49. Your purity of spirit must make carbuncles seem a gift.

[caseymoz]

51. Demanding habeus corpus be re-established is now too idealistic?

Demanding that the executive branch stop spying on us is worthy of derision? If that's what you now believe, I could just say yes, this guy has really brought back hope for people. No, he hasn't. Instead he's made his followers, like yourself, cynical enough to accept him. That's not hope. That's not "yes we can" that's "no we won't, and you'll praise me for it."

I'm just asking for the rather boilerplate human rights. The baseline stuff that ten years ago we took for granted. You can't say it's removal is too entrenched and institutionalized because we had it just 10 years ago. Also, he didn't have to do much to correct it-- like drop court cases.

[mstinamotorcity]

52. Ahhhh a breath of fresh air.

There is nothing to say but Thanks for the pep talk.

[lillypaddle]

53. back to the top!