Cheney: Obama "radical...doesn't understand Am. exceptionalism". Chuck Todd: "Smart people" agree.

[jefferson_dem]

Cheney: Obama 'more radical' than seen Posted December 8, 2009 3:40 PM

Former Vice President Dick Cheney, unloading on President Barack Obama on FOX News tonight, says 2010 will be a good year for Republicans and that Obama is no longer seen as invincible -- though he concedes that his own naming of candidates for 2012 may not be doing them any favors. Photo of Sean Hannity and Cheney courtesy of FOX News.

by Mark Silva

President Barack Obama, bowing to other leaders of the world, fails to understand the concept of "American exceptionalism,'' former Vice President Dick Cheney contends.

"There's never been a nation like the United States of America in world history, and yet when you have a president who goes around and bows to his hosts and then proceeds to apologize profusely for the United States, I find that deeply disturbing,'' Cheney says in an interview that FOX News will air tonight. "That says to me this is a guy who doesn't fully understand or share that view of American exceptionalism that I think most of us believe in."

The Republican also contends that Obama is a "more radical'' Democrat than he first appeared to be - yet stops short of calling Obama, as some critics have, a socialist: "I don't want to use that kind of a label."

"I saw him when he got elected as a liberal Democrat, but conventional in the sense of sort of falling within the parameters of the national Democratic Party,'' Cheney says in the interview with FOX's Sean Hannity airing tonight at 9 pm EST and again tomorrow, same time. "I think he's demonstrated pretty conclusively now during his first year in office that he's more radical than that, that he's farther outside the parameters if you will of what we've traditionally had in Democratic presidents in years past."

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http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2009/12/cheney_obama_radical.html

In response, Chuckles "Toolbox" Todd amazingly tweets this -

Here's the thing, smart people from both parties believe what Cheney believes about Obama and what Hoyer believes about the GOP.

http://twitter.com/chucktodd/statuses/6475907569

[Drunken Irishman]

1. Chuck Todd can go fuck himself.

[Drunken Irishman]

2. Oh and Cheney too.

[LovinLife]

3. Your title is misleading. I thought u were saying all smart people agree with Dr. Doom.

And what democrat believe Obama is radical?

[jefferson_dem]

7. Reading comprehension difficulties much?

n/t

[truebrit71]

4. Chuck Todd = Half-bearded half-wit

..

[goclark]

15. The man with all the smoke and mirrors charts

right?

What a toolbox he is!

[IndianaGreen]

5. In a nutshell, American Exceptionalism is pure racism

Other countries also suffer from their own brand of "exceptionalism," and it is also racism.

[jefferson_dem]

9. It depends on how one defines "exceptionalism"...

If "exceptionalism" is defined by a particular set of core values and experiences...there's not (necessarily) anything racist about it.

If, however, you see race and class as embedded in just about every political concept, you would see it here too.

[IndianaGreen]

11. It is racism wrapped in white man's burden

You can't rationalize this crap away!

[Chulanowa]

6. First... holy cow large image

Second... I think a fu DU'ers are happy to have Cheney on their side.

Third... Oh noes, a president who doesn't believe that the United States is the messiah? How will we ever cope?

[LovinLife]

8. I do think he's right about 2010. I don't even blame people anymore. I'd rather republicans

get Lincoln, Nelson, Lieberman, and othe Blue Dog seats than us pretending they're liberal and on our side.

[jefferson_dem]

10. "I'd rather republicans get Lincoln..."

I bet you would.

[LovinLife]

14. Why are u stalking me? You found me out. I'm a black republican from California who happened to vote

democrat for the 8yrs I've been voting. And I've come here to trick you all into supporting my right wing agenda.

Tax Cuts :bounce: :crazy:


Lets invade Honduras :nuke:

Lets invade Iran :nuke:


Give George W Bush a 3rd term :woohoo:


I'm so happy u have found me out :sarcasm:

[jefferson_dem]

16. Responding to your post = Stalking you.

Paranoid too, huh?

That's ok.

Enjoy yourself.

[Cha]

20. Nobody's "stalking" you..this an open discussion

board..if you can't take the replies then don't post on their OPs.

[LovinLife]

22. You're so angy. Are u sure u aren't a republican? NT

[Cha]

24. I pointed out no one is stalking you..sorry if that escalates your paranoia.

[LovinLife]

26. SMH. I didn't even know I replied to u. I thought I was talking to the other guy. U just jumped in

out of the blue. We are so divided. Its so clear. DU is the perfect example of what's happening within the Democrat party. I am no your enemy. Its sad don't get that.

[AndyA]

12. Chuck Todd: Smart people don't pay attention to anything he says.

He's a right wing tool, as evidenced by his coverage during the campaign last year.

[Cha]

27. chuck todd just dropped himself in the middle of

a big hole and I don't see him digging himself out.

Chuck Todd [e-mail]

Nobody smart agrees with dick cheney.

[mkultra]

13. Fuck Todd

[insanity]

17. The problem with American Exceptionalism

Is that it is plain ignorant.

Was it Roman exceptionalism when they expanded their empire too thin and persecuted people for their religious beliefs?

After all, no civilization in human history had ever been like Rome. We're a fine country, and I quite like America (for the most part), but believing our status as a superpower gives us an ethical defense to do whatever the fuck we want is stupid.

[Cha]

18. Delete..I read it wrong.

I don't know how I got "disagree" out of "agree" but I did.

[Undercurrent]

19. American Exceptionalism

is nothing but Global Manifest Destiny without the divinely ordained part (except in the minds of the fundy neocon types).

[gateley]

21. "American exceptionalism''

:scared:

[FSogol]

23. Chuck Todd: National Embarrassment

He agrees with whoever he talked to last.

[gateley]

25. Todd didn't say 'reasonable, thinking, observant' people. Smart people can be

dumb fucks, too. Smart doesn't mean they "get it".

[Cha]

28. gotChuck's email addy.

Chuck Todd [e-mail]

[Enrique]

29. he understands it, he just doesn't agree with it

and American Exceptionalism is what's radical. It's neocon thinking, and the neocons are hardly mainstream.