LynneSin
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Mon Oct-18-10 03:01 PM
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| Honestly, I think the 2010 elections will only make us stronger in the long run |
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Some of these nut jobs are going to get elected (thankfully O'Donnell will NOT be one of them). And you can be rest assured they will go to DC and make asses of themselves. They don't understand the constitution and the respresent a hateful group of white people who truly believe they are the only ones entitled to government handouts.
We knew going into 2010 it wasn't going to look good for us but I honestly believe it's not going to be a blow-out like 1994 standards. And I think the few hateful teabaggers that get elected will only rally around the progressives even stronger and make those moderate republicans who voted for them regret their votes.
I am encouraged by numbers as of lately. California, West Virgina and Washington are starting to look like dem wins. Wisconsin and Pennsylvania are starting to look doable. Even Alaska looks like it could be in play although if I were the dem leaders, I'd be talking to Lisa Murkowski right about now.
I hope all of you have made it a point to find one race to adopt as your own and help do something to ensure a victory. Even for those of you stuck with a moderate democrat - remember a vote for them is a vote to keep the likes of McConnell and Boehner out of the majority.
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Mon Oct-18-10 03:08 PM
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| 1. I'm thinking of myself in Germany in the mid-1930s, thinking: |
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some of these Nazi nut jobs will get elected, and that will ultimately only disillusion the voters with those nuts and only make us stronger.
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Mon Oct-18-10 03:13 PM
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| 2. Then we need to get much more vocal in 2012 |
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Mon Oct-18-10 04:53 PM
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| 9. Yep. And get more vocal now. We have time to fire up the Democrats more. |
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Mon Oct-18-10 05:53 PM
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you know how many shiiteheel republican lunatics there are now who never have to pay for being idiots?
Michelle Bachman, Joe Wilson ... I mean, at this point 70-80% of the republican caucus in both chambers are just flat out stupid, mean freakjobs ... Eric Cantor makes an arse out of himself every time his mouth opens ...
Sorry, if the people who are voting for these idiots don't see they are idiots now, they won't see it once they get in ...
That being said, I have said the Ds would lose seats this go around ... I thought it would be 20 or so in the house and 2 or 3 in the senate, now I think despite the polls and media blather, they can get past it with losing about 30 and 4 or 5 ...
I do think we have to look at it as being the battle of the bulge, SOMEHOW hold on to the house and senate, keep these jaggoffs from mercilessly investigating BO and just generally acting like the planet of the apes freakshow they are, then gear up for 2012 with BO on the ticket to get push back on them some ...
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Mon Oct-18-10 03:47 PM
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| 3. I see you've moved thru Denial, Anger and are now Bargaining n/t |
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Mon Oct-18-10 04:02 PM
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| 4. How long do you have to hold your nose before you pass out |
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when voting for "moderate" dems?
And how effective was it that we kept McConnell and Boehner out of the majority?
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Mon Oct-18-10 04:20 PM
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We have primaries that's the time we fight to get better dems on the tickets.
I'm not sure what you are asking about the second question but honestly, having those 2 in the majority is something I'd rather not find out the answer to.
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Tue Oct-19-10 10:19 AM
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| 19. Here in New York "we": didn't get any opportunity in the primarieso |
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to "fight" to get a better Dem on the ticket as governor, as the party pros and Cuomo's money held sway. As a result we are stuck with an anti-union cronyist who we are forced to vote for because the alternative is a crazy man. Just one of a string of such shitty examples.
I am sure we will all be stronger when this election is over (not)!
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Mon Oct-18-10 04:10 PM
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| 5. The big problem though is that 6 years is a long time to have that many wackos in the Senate. |
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Mon Oct-18-10 04:24 PM
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| 7. Very true but if we keep their numbers small we should be able to keep the sanity |
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Mon Oct-18-10 04:50 PM
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| 8. Added to that is the fact that Obama never had a majority to begin with because there are traitors |
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in the Democratic Party, and it's the same cast of characters: Ben Nelson, Joe LIEberman, Blanche Lincoln, Mary Landrieu, Bill Nelson, etc.
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Mon Oct-18-10 05:27 PM
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| 11. We can replace a third of the Senate every two years |
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We can relegate the tea partiers to the minority. Besides, there are a lot of Senate elections that are for the balance of a term, we'd be done with right wing whackos way sooner than six years in those cases.
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Mon Oct-18-10 05:25 PM
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| 10. To the extent we wash DINO's and Blue Dogs out of the party |
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I agree with you. And a lot of them need to go.
We can replace them in 2012 with some solid progressives, who will have President Obama at the top of the ticket. America will be ready for the grown-ups to come back in power, after two years of listening to tea party ramblings.
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Tue Oct-19-10 12:30 AM
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| 13. Angle's win would not be a loss |
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I view it as the silver lining in the cloud. The dems would see that weak leaders are punished and more importantly, the batshit crazy Angle would be the poster child for the batshit crazy rethuglicans. Her and Palin would guarantee victory in the next presidential election for the Dems.
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Tue Oct-19-10 01:02 AM
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| 14. It all depends on the next 2 weeks |
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Sure, the media has its Tea Party dominated storyline, but as noted in another posting, Obama has just charted the biggest 3-day gain of his presidency (6 points) in the Rasmussen daily tracking poll. If Obama can summon some of the old 2008 magic in some key districts, there is a chance that the GOP gains might be more along the lines of 30 House seats than 60.
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Tue Oct-19-10 01:13 AM
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| 15. What's likely to happen is that The Rank Amateurs who do get in will prove to be |
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a huge disappointment when they go to Washington all arrogance and swagger from their "mandate" and then get mired in the muck that is Senatorial or House procedure.
They won't be able to deliver on their promises, they'll spend most of their time and energy picking fights with what's left of the GOP establishment, trying to grab more power than they deserve because they have some misplaced, ill-informed, in-yer-face, in-their-minds-only sacred mandate from the voters. Some of them will wind up having to compromise and dilute their radical fervor because it's just so damn unrealistic, and that will piss off the teabaggers back home who will feel incredibly betrayed. You think there's some sort of blood-letting supposedly to come in two weeks (according to many pundits)? That will look like naptime at the neighborhood day care center by comparison to when the teabaggers don't get their way. They will start to eat their own. The chattering class talks WAY too much about how we Dems and liberals and progressives had too high a set of expectations from Obama and the Class of '08. Our expectations PALE in comparison with what the teahadists are demanding and to which they now claim to be entitled.
And I forget which pundit I heard a week or so ago who predicted there'll be a lot of one-termers coming out of this so-called revolution. They'll either get fed up and decline to seek reelection when it becomes clear that the DC establishment does NOT fall down and revamp everything the teabaggers' way, or they'll be bounced out by irate nutjobs who were expecting their darlings to dynamite everything about the dreaded big-gubmint to the ground. OR - I actually wouldn't be surprised if one of them gets so fed up that he or she pulls a sarah palin and quits in the middle of things to go make a fast buck on the Pox Noise market, thus throwing their home turf into disarray and their faithful believers into apoplexy, shattering everything they believed in!
This is NO TIME to hand the reins of power, or the magnitude of problems besetting our country, over to the hands of a bunch of rank amateurs with their half-baked, cockamamie, untested, pie-in-the-sky, trickle-down supply-side free-market-Utopia "ideas"! It's like taking a bunch of toddlers who are masters of the back yard kiddie pool and assuming they'll have no trouble swimming in Lake Michigan. These people are not even ready for the Not Ready for Prime Time Players.
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Tue Oct-19-10 06:35 AM
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| 16. Have you looked at the republican caucuses? |
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Seriously, this is denial type stuff ...
The House and Senate are absolutely STUFFED with rank amature, extremist republicans ...
Michele Bachman, Darrell Issa, Eric Cantor ... 95% of them are self righteous, ignorant, dimwits ... None of them are, nor ever were ready for "primetime."
And, not a single one of these tea party clowns ain't going to not run again if they win, they are power hungry twits ...
Sorry, they get in, they are going to be even harder to get out than keeping them out ...
I think we are going to get some pushback i 2012 with BO on the ticket, but there are going to a LOT of really dangerous people who slip into congress who we are going to have to suffer through for a long time ...
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Tue Oct-19-10 06:44 AM
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I'd add that the entire point of pointing these crazies in office is so that the big money interests can BUY THEIR VOTES. It will be a very simple deal ... vote how we want on these issues, and we'll run endless ads for you claiming that you are a family values candidate who is fiscally responsible, while your opponent would give Mexicans free mansions, and he also sleeps with farm animals.
The money interests will let the nuts have some fun ... maybe on abortion or gay marriage ... but they will then replace them with former CEOs and board members (like they are trying with Fiorino).
There has always been a bit of a revolving door, now there will be a direct walkway.
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Tue Oct-19-10 08:01 AM
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Their "Contract on America" in 1994 bombed when the true believers had to start actually Governing.
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