Oh. Shit. Are the House Republicans going to impeach Obama?

[hedgehog]

I think this is how it goes - the House impeaches the President, the Senate tries the President once the Bill of Impeachment is approved.

[onenote]

1. No.

[ChoralScholar]

2. Where did this come from?

[liberalmuse]

3. I wouldn't be surprised...

but I remember the support Clinton had when they tried to impeach him. Mostly I think they're just going to try and undo every single good thing he did in the past two years. I hope the President has a strong hand, 'cause he's going to need to do a lot of vetoing, and I think we're going to have to do a lot more protesting. Damn, I'm getting too old for this shit.

[USA_1]

4. Wouldn't Surprise Me

... and it wouldn't surprise me if they get a few Dems to vote with them.

[budkin]

5. No way, not with the economy in the shitter... it would be political suicide

[JoePhilly]

7. They'll tie it to the economy ...

And the media will provide the cover.

[kestrel91316]

35. It was political suicide the LAST time they did it. You think they care?

[niceypoo]

41. Everything the GOP does is political suicide

The GOP doesn't care about bad press

[Tripper11]

48. It's not political suicide if they're still here

And with all the shit they've pulled over the years and it continures to get worse, they still sruvive and actually thrive.
So no...no such thing...they will continue to get away with their spoiled brat, bullshit, cheating, lying, no accountability ways...until the Dems take the gloves off and just start kicking their asses by calling them out.
Republicans don't care about humans...they don't want healthcare, they don't want to help people, they don't want anything unless it's for their own selfish needs. It's not even that fucking complicated. It's outright selfishness, plain and simple.

edited for spelling

[niceypoo]

50. They play on ignorance

Rather than govern

[JoePhilly]

6. The investigations will start almost immediately ...

Every person Obama has ever known will be investigated. Michelle too. Every member of his administration too.

All the GOP needs is ONE person to allege something.

Remember Whitewater? Paula Jones?

And they impeached Clinton for lying about a BJ. Impeached the leader of the free world, for a lie about a BJ.

They do not care about this country, or its security. They simply want POWER.

[hedgehog]

10. Does that mean they can impeach Obama if someone finds

a cigarette butt on the White House grounds?

[indepat]

16. Power, unfettered capitalism run amok, and but a modicum of taxes on corporations and the wealthy:

that's what America voted for on Tuesday, so the rush down the crapper will now be largely unimpeded. :shrug:

[niceypoo]

43. Supply side economics is NOT capitalism

It is corporate socialism. In capitalism, supply follows demand (wages). When wages increase, people spend more and supply is increased to fill this demand. In supply side, there is no rise in wages corresponding to supply. This difference between supply and wages is reflected in deficits. Supply side economics is fatally flawed and will never ever produce a balanced budget, it is just not physically possible.

[indepat]

63. Nicely put

;)

[GoCubsGo]

40. But, to our favor...

People have been freaking out about the deficit and government spending. All we have to do is remind them how many millions of their tax dollars the witch hunts are costing them, rather than being spent on things like the deficit, veterans' care, and our crumbling infrastructure. And, how much of Congress' time is being wasted on them, rather than on job creation. Just point out that they elected the repugs to fix the country, and here they are, trying to tear it apart even further. As someone else in the thread pointed out, it would be political suicide. Go for it, Mr. Issa! Knock yourself out.

[JoePhilly]

56. Those costs did not stop the GOP under Clinton, will not stop them now.

[niceypoo]

42. REZKO

Rezko will be Obama's whitewater.

[JoePhilly]

55. Good example.

All the GOP needs is a person who they can nail to the wall and get some accusation out of it.

[onehandle]

8. Not a chance. When Obama is still in office in a year, the teabaggers will go apeshit. And...

...hopefully go full third party.

[musicblind]

21. I told my boyfriend that I predict the Tea Party will become a full separate party by

the time of the next election... if not then they will fade away. One or the other.

[sohndrsmith]

66. Assuming undeserved credit, The Tea Party could be nothing more than

a deliberately created tool - a tool that provides a couple of very important directives:

- it pretends to be an outlier that supports the radical views of the GOP - without the GOP's formal endorsement.
- it erases any/all memory/connotation between Bush and the GOP

End result: The GOP achieves dual goals:
1. it becomes drastically more radically RW/evangelical/etc., something it could not have done on it's own.
2. it can claim victory and incorporate every TP win (none of which ran as Democrats) as a GOP win - and (unbeknownst to the naive TPers, they've either been played like a bunch of Legos or are in on the plan and at this moment share a sinister chuckle amongst themselves...

[Jennicut]

9. Maybe but what difference does it make unless you try and impeach the VP as well.

And I think it will backfire on them, as it did with Clinton. The economy is the main issue to people.

[hedgehog]

11. Well, there is that. I'm hoping for a huge backfire.

[no_hypocrisy]

12. I don't think so. Here's why.

It won't cripple Obama or the democrats.

Impeachment involves a commitment of time and isn't something you do in a week or so. It replaces the work of legislation. The republican mantra of this election cycle was "Vote Republican so we can stop screwing around, reduce taxes and the deficit simultaneously, stimulate the economy through private enterprise, and make jobs, jobs, jobs!"

The individual who voted republican yesterday may be dim, but not entirely braindead and will notice that an inordinate amount of dedication of time in the House is going to impeach the President instead getting him/her a job and/or saving his/her own house from foreclosure.

My point: If you think the electorate is angry now, they can only get angrier no matter who's in charge. Congress better give them what they want -- or else.

[hedgehog]

14. When have Republicans ever not said one thing and done another?

[no_hypocrisy]

17. Here's how they can have it both ways: the Republican majority in the House

tells the Democratic majority in the Senate that it will investigate Obama with the goal of impeachment if the latter does not pass the legislation drafted by the former.

That way, the Republicans can look at their constituents and tell them that the Democrats are holding back economoic reform and progress.

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[Aramchek]

15. you think like a Teabagger

[denimgirly]

18. But yet we must "Look Forward" and not impeach the real criminals: Chenny and Bush...

Why is Obama willing to always give repubs passes even if it hurts him in the end. And now there is possible talk they might bring charges of impeaching him? I doubt it will make it far but it's a testament of how well displined the Repubs are in getting things moving.

[hedgehog]

52. It's like the honor student from the chess club complaining

because the quarterback was caught dwi after curfew but still allowed to suit up for the game. Sometimes life just isn't fair.

[MattyGroves]

19. If they do they'll see themselves back on the streets in 2012

Weren't the exit polls showing that around 90% of the voters were concerned about the economy?

I have a feeling that if the Repubs focus on investigations and impeachment while continuing to block any efforts to change the economy they're going to be getting a rude awakening from the non-tea party voters out there.

[Cosmocat]

61. Why was the electorate so jacked up about the economy?

Because the Rs and MSM railed about it left and right ... Keeping in mind, the crappy economy was due in great part because of the people who were complaining so loudly about it ... AND, that the economy is in fact in a clear, but very slow recovery ... It is better than when BO took over, by a WIDE margin ...

Now that the Rs have the power to investigate BO, they will stop screaming about the economy, and will start to say, "well, we CAN do more than one thing at at time" and will start to run the "we never fully got a full view of Obama, we need to look into him further ..."

The MSM will take their lead, forget about how "horrible" the economy is, and then start to tag along with whatever crape the Rs start fishing around with ...

Seriously, how can ANYONE at this website doubt the complete manner in which the MSM has been completely integrated with the R party, and their ability to drive public thought? Vote for the idiot you would have a beer with ... Iraq ... The guy who actually served and was wounded in combat was a wishywashy coward, the guy who ducked service based on his name was resolute and tough ... This election ...

[TZ]

20. If they do they will lose all the seats they gained and MORE

If you recall there was a backlash from impeaching Clinton but the Florida debacle in 2000 kinda made people forget it.

[harun]

22. Not even the House Republican's are that stupid.

[JNelson6563]

23. Sadly certain DUers are.

[AlinPA]

24. I think they are that stupid. Since there will be no compromise, what else are they going to do

for the next two years?

[harun]

26. Go on talk shows and complain about the President.

Telling how the day after the election Reid and Obama come out on how willing they are to capitulate to the Republican's and Boehner comes out about how he is not going to compromise on anything.

Dem's should have took this as a chance to come out and say how they messed up and didn't change things enough. That the HCR bill didn't go far enough and how they were going to pass Single Payer in the lame duck session.

Never will happen though. They are too afraid of the Corporate Media.

[Occam Bandage]

25. If they pull a stunt like that, 2012 is going to be another blue wave.

We got our asses kicked (in part) because voters think we haven't done enough to fix the economy. If Republicans are smart, they'll try to link tax cuts to employment, and claim that the fundamental problem with the economy is that taxes aren't regressive enough. If they're dumb, they'll dick around with social issues and political gotchas.

[lanlady]

27. on what grounds?

Their game plan is to make his Presidency for the next 2 years seem ineffective so that he can be defeated in 2012. Impeachment proceedings would seriously backfire.

[sammytko]

30. exactly - no grounds at all - come on people - get a grip

[backscatter712]

39. I doubt it will come to impeachment - they'd have to own the Senate, which they don't.

They'll investigate though. I doubt they'll find anything of substance, and if they push too hard, it'll backfire on them.

[Arkansas Granny]

28. They might investigate every little thing that he does, but they have to come

up with an impeachable offense, which is defined as "high crimes and misdemeanors" before they can proceed. It's unlikely that they will find anything to satisfy that criteria.

[GSLevel9]

29. Not a chance...

It worked so well for them last time... Lol the blowback would be huge.

[and-justice-for-all]

31. Impeach for what?

for NOT bombing and occupying another foreign country?

[ej510]

32. According to Issa the Sestak job offer was an impeachable offense.

[karynnj]

45. But, it wasn't by all sane people

It is pretty standard politics - and IF that job were offered, Sestak is highly qualified.

[ellie]

33. Of course they are and will

[kestrel91316]

34. They have already said they intend to .

[besdayz]

36. z

lot of pressure on them...

the base or hard core birthers/tea partiers favor hearing....

but if they are seen to distract the nation the results in 2012 will be worse than 06/08....they got their second chance and fucked up again. will be a long time until they are trusted again.....as it is their brand sucks ass. they only won on the economy and unpopularity of incumbent washington and voter anger

[KingFlorez]

37. Bring it on

Let them show just how vindictive they are.

[Arkana]

38. Worked out great for them the last time!

Oh, wait...no it didn't.

Let me tell you something--if Bill Clinton had come out and said "Yep! I did it. I had sex with Monica Lewinsky. You caught me, I'm a bad husband" they would have had NOTHING ON HIM. Adultery's a shitty thing to do, but it's not a moral crime and their investigation would have looked even more impotent than it was.

They got ROASTED when they tried it last time and I don't think they'll be in any hurry to try again.

[niceypoo]

44. You think the GOP uses common sense?

They react to whatever their loonie base wants and their loonie base wants Obama's head.

[Arkana]

46. If they try to kill this President they will only make him stronger.

They tried to kill Clinton and his approval ratings went through the ROOF.

[niceypoo]

49. Agree

Clinton was polling in the low 70s during the 'impeachment'. He left office at 68%.

[niceypoo]

62. That is because Clinton passed his 1993 economic plan with zero republican votes

He did without the GOP because he knew that the republicans would have ruined it.

[Ganja Ninja]

47. You betcha. n/t

[thelordofhell]

51. I hope so

It would mean the death of the republican party. It would also finally expose the "liberal" media.

[justiceischeap]

53. I'm more concerned about their not voting to allow the debt ceiling to be raised

Rand Paul has stated time and again that if elected he will do all he can to keep the debt ceiling from being raised. That would be disastrous for the US and the world economy.

Let's keep in mind, a lot of folks who got elected last night aren't playing with a full deck. As a couple others have stated, a couple of "birthers" were elected last night. Do you really think that they won't investigate the whole birth certificate mess? Or they won't try to find some sort of nefarious Muslim tie to Obama? They may not impeach but they'll do enough damage.

[maryellen99]

57. that worries me too

[Doctor_J]

59. Rand Paul will do whatever Bitch McConnell tells him to

[Hawkowl]

54. Obama plans on a compromise resignation

In the spirit of bipartisanship. So he doesn't upset the country with a trial in the Senate.

[Doctor_J]

58. No, they will stop just short

Issa said months ago he plans to spend the next two years hounding the president, but I don't think they will overplay their hand again like last time.

I think we all owe Nancy a big thank you for not investigating the crimes of Bush and Cheney. Playing nice with the Repukes always pays big dividends.

[grahamhgreen]

60. DUH! Of course! We should have investigated Bush for torture - oops too late!

[LynneSin]

64. I say go for it. They'll all be out of a job in 2012

Because there is no reason to impeach Obama AND that means the republicans aren't focusing on what really needs to be done which is the economy and job.

[Dash87]

65. Of course not. That would be political suicide.

Don't you also need charges to impeach a President? ;)

♥

[BlueIris]

67. Personally, I think what the powers that be are afraid of is

the investigation(s) that would precede an impeachment attempt.

[greymattermom]

68. line item veto?

Can the President reduce government spending in certain tea flavored districts, just as their representatives say they want, by line item veto?

[rasputin1952]

69. No...

what would be the charge?