Rove vs Palin fake? Set-up for Reagan doppelgänger DeMint?

[anAustralianobserver]

I've only recently tuned in to who Jim DeMint is and watched a few youtubes of him. I haven't been able to determine yet how sincere he is about his ideology or if he's a more of pure player like Newt Gingrich. He makes a very presidential first impression and I know many of the freepers love him. (Is Rush L. promoting him?)

Similarly I can't determine how disingenuous or sincere (for a Republican) Sarah Palin is; but what is the likelihood that her feud with Rove (Palin mocking Rove for being paranoid, Rove's little disses of Palin etc.) is just part of the herding of Tea Party-identified people into a Republican base that will support some 'great new Republican uniter' like Jim DeMint?

ie that the plan is for Palin to ultimately hand over her populist cult to DeMint, and for Rove and Palin to publically make up and pay their respects to each other for reforming the party? (Or is Palin genuinely more independent than that?)

[tularetom]

1. Palin thinks she is smarter than everybody

So I seriously doubt if once she has cultivated this following of mental defectives, she will be willing (or even able) to hand them over to anybody else.

And I don't know where you are getting your information about Demint. He looks like nothing more than just another windbag blowhard southern senator and certainly not presidential. And from what I've heard, he is definitely not well liked within the republican party so I doubt that he could gather much support from the 10 or 12 other prospective candidates.

[anAustralianobserver]

2. He looks quite a bit like Reagan to me! and he's even-tempered, ostensibly humble (in the youtube

vids I saw). He's building bridges with Paul supporters, Bachmann supporters etc.
Ok so you think he doesn't have much establishment support. Then maybe the fissures are as wide as they appear.

[dgibby]

9. And Ted Bundy was the guy every mother wanted her daughter to date.

I live in SC. DeMint is certifiable,imo. He wants to ban gays from teaching in public schools, among other things. He scares the hell out of me, and I think he's solidifying his base for a run for the presidency.

Be afraid, be very, very afraid!

[anAustralianobserver]

10. Yes I saw some of his positions; hopefully he's too socially conservative to have general

appeal. I saw him praising Marco Rubio, and the Paul supporters seem to have hopes for him. It looks like the libertarian and social cons could support him, but if he's not an establishment insider I guess he wouldn't be nominated unless perhaps with a view to making him a figurehead president controlled by a VP.

[dgibby]

12. He's very cunning..

with lots of "street smarts", and a darling of the Radical Religious Right, conservatives, and the Tea Party. He is building a broad base, both within and outside congress. I doubt the "establishment" will know what hit them when he's ready to make his move. Underestimating him would be a serious error.

He's written a book, "Saving Freedom", which I can't bring myself to buy, but it gives you insight into what he's thinking. We don't call him Jim DeMented lightly!

Here's an article from HuffPo you might find interesting.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/08/jim-demint-tea-party-gop-criticism_n_780150.html

He's quoted as saying he doesn't want power or a title, but it's been my experience that when people say that, they're lying through their teeth.

[flamingdem]

15. Good. Let him run. Easier to beat a nut job than Romney, Thorn or Huckabee nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. Jim DeMented Is A Clown With No Appeal Beyond Dixie

The Repubs "own" Dixie anyway.

Repubs who scare me, in order of threat

Jeb Bush
Mitt Romney
Tim Pawlenty
Marco Rubio
Mike Huckabee

[anAustralianobserver]

20. I think the freepers hate Romney though. Pawlenty and Huckabee I agree with.

[anAustralianobserver]

19. Interesting article. Yes he has a low-key smooth hypnotic charm on TV interviews; presenting

extreme positions without coming across as angry and reactionary. He reminds me of Huckabee in that way.

[flamingdem]

3. With Rove you've got to expect any kind of psycho strategy to win, win, win nt

[anAustralianobserver]

4. I suspect he's happy to 'take one for the team' atm to try to control the real divisions in the

party (Pauls libertarians vs Palin social conservatives vs establishment Republicans).

[David Zephyr]

5. It's real, not fake.

Palin is anathema to American aristorcrats, Wall Street executives, country club Republicans who all use people like Palin to further their privilege. They never let them get the levers of power and she's about to be put in her place.

It will be delicate and the puppetmasters for this crowd (Rush Limbaugh, primarily) will have to find a plausible "reason" for putting her down a notch while they continue to praise her. It will be a delicate waltz, but it will happen.

It's all done in a very tidy way, the way "Human Resource" executives clear out loyal employees who have done the corporate bidding, but now need to be replaced.

It' not a feud between Karl Rove and Sarah Palin. She just isn't in their crowd.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/David%20Zephyr/78

[flamingdem]

6. I have been hearing this about Palin for a while now..

but she just seems to pick up steam, they've created a monsta

[anAustralianobserver]

8. Hmm but will Palin play ball and endorse who they want (eg Jeb as you speculate) in exchange for

a glamorous job or something? (or would she endorse an anti-establishment candidate?)

[David Zephyr]

22. Money will buy her off.

Rupert Murdoch can give her a show of her own.

She could be promised a Cabinet Position within the Administration.

She could be given a lot of honoray board positions within the petroleum, tobacco, firearm, pharmaceutical, insurance industries where she gets nice fat checks for showing up once a year and not having to do a thing.

The Palins are simple white trash who have served their purpose and are now getting in the way. They will have two choices: 1.) take an offer or 2.) be destroyed politically. They'll take the first.

[anAustralianobserver]

23. I think Tea Partiers intuit this, so does that leave DeMint as the figurehead? because the party

sure doesn't want Rand Paul wearing the mantle - the party would (will) fall apart.

[David Zephyr]

24. Yes. And keep in mind that the phony "libertarian" Rand Paul took lots of money from Rove.

Karl Rove owns this "libertarian".

[anAustralianobserver]

25. Right, but I think the party supported Paul because they had to. The Pauls seem

very identified with their ideology and while they capitulate to the party, I think they have their limits re military interventions and budget, domestic spying, 'spending', pot decriminalisation - the very issues Rove, Gingrich etc want to keep obfuscated so that the factions hold together for 2 more years.

[DrToast]

7. Um, DeMint is more tea party than Palin.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

11. Jim DeMented Is A Goober

Come up with a Repub who scares me like Jeb Bush or Mitt Romney.

[dgibby]

13. Evidently, you don't know Jim DeMint.

As I said upthread, he's cunning and street smart. Underestimating him would be a big mistake.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

16. Maybe He's Street Smart To Folks In The Deep South

He will never play beyond Dixie and isolated parts of the Mountain West.

[dgibby]

18. I sure hope not.

If he does, I'm leaving the country.

[southernyankeebelle]

14. Palin is for Palin. She is nothing but a grifter and training her family to be the same. She

is to shelfish to think of the country. It's all about her.

[anAustralianobserver]

21. So I suppose she will endorse whoever the top-down party wants her to, either before

or during the primaries.