Big ED: President Obama has now become the problem he is WEAK!!

[bigdarryl]

WOW!!! He's on another tirade today

[tabatha]

1. How is this helping.

If the right-wing want to destroy Obama, whether Obama is weak or strong, there is nothing Obama can do.

[Andy823]

6. I agree.

Now I do think he needs to get a hell of a lot tougher the next two years, and show the republicans, and blue dog democrats, that they do not control congress or the WH! But to go and on about him being weak, or we need to run someone else against him in the primaries, or that he is no better than McCain would have been, are nothing more than right wing talking points and they need to stop! It's been the right wing plan to get democrats divided, and they come on her pretending to be democrats and spew their bile, and sadly many democrats buy into their BS!

Yes, the president and congress need to stand up to the republicans, yes they need to regain the faith of the base, and yes it will be a hard road for the next two years, but the man has accomplished a hell of a lot, and he can do a hell of a lot more. We can complain, but we don't have to resort to right wing talking points that are doing nothing more than dividing the party.

[MrsCorleone]

39. It's only helping Ed's career. Noticed a few so-called progressives have gone right

and have been rewarded accordingly. Perhaps, they see the big bucks Beck brings home and are willing to sell out the middle-class to get theirs.

[Drahthaardogs]

40. Sometimes you have two choices...

1) Fight and get taken down

2) Just get taken down.


I prefer option #1 cause it makes it a lot easier to look at myself in the mirror.

[polichick]

2. I called Ed yesterday but couldn't hold long enough to say what I wanted to...

I was going to say: Maybe it's not that the president is weak; maybe it's time we stop wondering whether he's naive, playing chess or needs a psychologist and assume that he's doing what he means to do.

[hlthe2b]

3. So, what is it he "means to do?"

[polichick]

4. Exactly what he's doing - maintaining as much of the corporate status quo as possible...

...while tweaking things enough to claim "historic" change.

[Recursion]

32. Do you like big, systemic, revolutionary changes

with all the disruption, chaos, and unintended consequences they cause? I don't. Effective changes happen gradually, and start on the margins. Reagan and Bush didn't get much of the fire-breathing conservative agenda passed, but they changed the direction of the country.

[polichick]

41. I think we could easily handle a public option, the reinstating of Glass-Steagall...

...breaking up the big banks, etc., etc. - if the prez actually wanted those things.

[Recursion]

44. Can you imagine how much worse the 2008 crisis would be if Glass-Steagall had still been around?

One of the main reasons we could keep the whole thing from going over a cliff was because, with Glass-Steagall repealed, retail banks could step in and buy the troubled investment banks (BoA with Merrill, etc.) The banks that got into trouble weren't the ones that had been regulated by Glass-Steagall.

[Carolina Lady]

5. Whatever

I've had it with Big Ed, he had a chance to put his name on the ballot and run for senate and he punked out. He needs to sit his ass down somewhere. He wasn't willing to get in the game,just sit on the side line and be a part of the bitch patrol.

[babylonsister]

17. !

Agreed! And welcome to DU, Carolina Lady! :toast:

[Carolina Lady]

27. thank you,

I recently discovered this site and like it for the most part.

[zulchzulu]

7. Republicans like Ed always throw out the "Weak" card when leaders don't bomb the globe

Fuck him. He's been unlistenable for years.

[polichick]

8. Actually, this president is "bombing the globe." nt

[avaistheone1]

12. snap

[Bobbie Jo]

16. LOL

Snap? :rofl:

How's that?

[avaistheone1]

19. U.S. 'secret war' expands globally as Special Operations forces take larger role

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/03/AR2010060304965.html

[Bobbie Jo]

33. Translation....

It wasn't *that* clever.

Thanks for the link, nonetheless.

[bbgrunt]

9. this is hardly about bombing the globe--O is already doing that.

[zulchzulu]

14. Last I checked, Obama inherited two wars and can't just leave like it's a video game

I support getting the hell out of Iraq and Afghanistan and don't support the current policy.

Perhaps I needed to add "start endless wars"... my bad.

That said, Big Ed is one that never seems to do his homework and always goes for the low hanging fruit of hyperbolic horseshit. Jus' sayin'.

[polichick]

15. He could have stopped those wars as soon as he became president...

The truth is, he is as caught up in the mic as the presidents before him.

[zulchzulu]

23. Just like a video game, huh...

It's not that simple.

In order to stop the war, he needs votes. He's not a monarch. Last I checked...

That said, I could show you photos of me in San Francisco protesting the wars back in 2003 and send some MP3s of songs I've written where I obviously show my dislike of these wars...

:hi:

[polichick]

26. I'm tired of the excuses - he'd find a way to end the wars IF he wanted to...

...which, very clearly, he does not.

[bigdarryl]

11. Is it true that Big Ed is still a registered republican someone posted that on hear a week ago

[ProSense]

10. The President is WEAK!!

WEAK!! I tell you!!

Dear America: The President is WEAK!!

Did I say WEAK!!?

Friggin clowns.

[Name removed]

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[ProSense]

34. "This is your opportunity to link to a list of 297 items"

Who are you and why does this seem to bother you? I never actually counted the accomplishments.

[Bobbie Jo]

13. Discontent sells. nt

[SidDithers]

46. +1...nt

Sid

[Phx_Dem]

18. For a weak POTUS he sure had gotten a shitload done in a short time.

Ed's off his meds again.

[CakeGrrl]

20. With the Democratic "base" doing all the legwork, who needs Republican enemies?

Keep parroting the "message", Mouseketeers! Join your Republican bretheren in a common cause.

Get this silly, weak, spineless tool to step aside.

:eyes:

I want to bookmark all this crap for later on.

[Kdillard]

21. Seriously, I am pretty much fed up with the circular firing squad. It never ends.

[Recursion]

29. Sure it does. It ends when the GOP takes over again

Then we all go back to our own little ideological fiefdoms.

Same thing that happened to the GOP; they essentially disintegrated by the end of Bush's term with the far right absolutely giving up on W and the other "moderate" Republicans for trying too hard for bipartisanship, being weak, not "fighting" enough, etc.

[Name removed]

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[zulchzulu]

25. Name the last Republican president who tried to get healthcare reform and tried to end gay hate laws

I bet you have the list at the ready...

[Recursion]

31. Nixon

I actually agree with your point, but I think that description fits RMN.

[Hawkowl]

38. Word. nt

[zulchzulu]

24. +1,000,000,000,000

Let's defeat Obama by lying about him and playing hyperbolic horse dung lies on him.

After all, we all want our ponies now.

[Bobbie Jo]

36. +1000

[zulchzulu]

30. You know who's weak? Big Fucking Ed.

I know he enjoys his tirades and thinks going for the low hanging hyperbolic drivel can fill in a few hours on his show and maybe even some I Want My Pony Losers can call his show and whine about how they can't have a monarch for President.

This shit is sickening. And Ed is unlistenable...

[Bluerthanblue]

35. +1

sometimes he seems like our version of "Rush".

:shrug:

[political_Dem]

37. With all the donkey droppings being flung all it does is slide down the wall to the ground.

Yet, the flingers have as much consideration for "collateral damage" as Cheney does.

And while the flinging goes on, another day goes by that the Dems lose to fight for the court of opinion about a Progressive agenda in the MSM as well as supporting politicians who could help win back seats in Congress.

[craigmatic]

42. Well he's right.

[Life Long Dem]

43. You know who was weak?

Bush. Bush was weak because he couldn't pass the Social Security bill he was pushing.

[Recursion]

45. Or immigration reform

And he wasn't willing to "fight" and "force a filibuster" (from conservatives' perspective) with his tax cuts, so he used reconciliation, which is why they will automatically disappear on January 1st. And, yes, he was accused on conservative forums of caving in and secretly being a Democrat at heart.