Meanwhile, in the Land of Reality: Obama at 83% approval among liberal Democrats

[UrbScotty]

http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Approval-Center.aspx

You wouldn't know that from DU, but there you go.

[Skittles]

1. I call complete, utter BS

I don't know who they're polling but it certainly isn't any liberals I know

[Clio the Leo]

2. The overwhelming majority...

..... of liberals think "DU" is the first two letters of a VERY serious criminal offense.

(which is in no way meant to be a slight against DU)

[Skittles]

3. no other liberal I know in the real world is a DU member

[Davis_X_Machina]

5. No one I know...

..voted for Reagan. In 1984.

Funny, that.

[Skittles]

8. I know tons of people who voted for reagan

including plenty of DUers

[RaleighNCDUer]

13. Agree.

Of course, there are no parameters given, defining 'liberal democrat', but as evidenced from this site, as well as many other progressive sites on the web, the very most liberal Democrats are the ones most disappointed in him, while the most conservative Democrats are the most supportive of him, which turns the listing Gallup gave on its head.

It is bullshit - somebody's not being honest, here.

[Phx_Dem]

38. These numbers have been steady among Dems. Sounds like you're the one out of touch.

[Lint Head]

4. Gallup is still in business?

[KansasVoter]

6. So under your logic, Obama will have more support, donations and volunteers in 2012 than 2008?

LOL

[FrenchieCat]

7. Those 83% will be walking tomorrow......

as they are all mad as hell that the unemployed get a 13 months extension,
and that those 83% most in the middle class won't see their taxes go up....
and indeed they will go down with the payroll tax reduction.

Yes, they are mad as hell that those rich folks get to keep their money
for another two years....cause that was their priority!

Devastating!





















NOT!

[niceypoo]

10. And it only costs us $500 Billion dollars

Sounds like a ransom payment to me

[FrenchieCat]

16. Yep the deficit is now more important to Liberals

than it is to Republicans, but only after today!

Who knew?

[Pholus]

22. The deficit is going to be used as the "crisis" to cut Social Security. Why don't YOU care?

[Hello_Kitty]

34. The minute a Catfood austerity plan comes down the pike that is supported by Obama

You'll be concerned with the deficit again all of a sudden.

[Pholus]

11. Cool, so the 83% made a "deal." After Christmas we'll hear about how the deficit demands huge cuts.

[SidDithers]

25. +1...nt

Sid

[valerief]

9. Gallup. Ha! nt

[dennis4868]

12. DU is the anti Obama Fight at all cost website....

even if fighting will not get you anywhere because repubs in the senate along with 5 dems were going to fillubuster Obama's real tax plan no matter what the case was....everyone here says he should fight....first, I really don't know what fight means and secondly, Obama (and god for that matter) are not going to change the minds of the repubs in the senate....

[ClassWarrior]

36. The fighting ALWAYS gets you somewhere. Even if it's a losing fight. Because it...

...it's the right thing to do.

Are you going to run away if someone with a gun threatens your spouse? By your logic, you're not going to win against a gun, and you're not going to change the gunman's mind if you stand and fight.

:shrug:

NGU.

[ellie]

14. Again, no one ever polls me

I never get called and I have a landline that I have had since 1994.

[Arctic Dave]

15. Culd you do me a favor and define for me what your idea a liberal democrat is?

[provis99]

17. most "liberal" voters are as stupid and ignorant as "conservative"voters.

They pay next to no attention to politics, and think the President's done all kinds of things that he hasn't.

So you've basically given us a poll of collective dumbasses and we're supposed to draw what conclusion from it?

[Dawgs]

23. +1. There's a reason we just lost an election.

:cry:

[young but wise]

30. Bullshit.

Most Democratic voter don't think President Obama's out to get them, unlike DU.

[Hello_Kitty]

35. You wouldn't believe how many Dems I've met who think they're getting free health care soon

I swear to god.

[angee_is_mad]

18. better watch it

before the post get locked. Only anti-Obama posts allowed.

[Jakes Progress]

19. You really need to stop citing a poll that shows

Obama hasn't a chance in hell of winning another election. I think gallup is a crock, but you have to read your own citations.

What percentage of Americans identify themselves as liberal Democrats? That has to be the smallest group on the list. He is down and falling everywhere else.

[Kaleva]

20. He's actually been holding rather steady this entire year.

His big drop came on in 2009 when Republican support plummeted from the 30+% range down to near single digits and he had a somewhat lesser but stiff significant drop with independents. Dem support has remained fairly constant.

[Jakes Progress]

42. At low levels among voters.

You wanna live by the polls, go ahead. But learn what they mean. I think they are crap and are rigged.

[and-justice-for-all]

21. That smells a bit off..nt

[Honeycombe8]

24. We'll see. I love(d) Obama, but I think this may be the straw.

Let's see how the polls go in January, when the effect from this is seen. Maybe no effect. Maybe a lot. We'll see.

BTW...he needs Independents to win. What's THEIR approval of him?

[Phx_Dem]

26. It just shows what a small footprint progressives have in their own party.

[Dr.Phool]

27. Even President McConnell would laugh at that!

Pure unadulterated bullshit.

[monkeydog]

28. the real important numbers

Long time lurker, first time poster.

Here are the real telling numbers from Gallup:

Whites: 37%
Blacks: 89%
Hispanics: 68%


What demo do you suppose the demographic makeup of DU (and the Internet as a whole) is skewed toward?

What demo do you think most of the people posters on DU are talking to?

There's a reason DU'ers experience and the polls don't match.

There's a reason Obama's approval seems higher than we'd expect.

Race card played, let the flames begin.

[Beacool]

32. Pretty gutsy comment.

Soon to be deleted........

:D

[Pisces]

40. What's gusty about a racebaiting comment???

[Beacool]

46. Gutsy for someone's first post on the board.

That comment can get someone banned or at the very least the post would most likely be deleted by the moderators.

[Hello_Kitty]

37. Well I'm white and have been polled 3 times in the past year.

In all 3 I was asked if I approved of Obama and I said I did all 3 times although I'm critical here on DU.

Take your race card and shove it up your ass.

[Name removed]

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[tekisui]

29. Most Democrats pay as little attention as the rest of the country.

[Beacool]

31. In the land of reality people voted twice for Bush.

As Mencken sagely said: "No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people."

:eyes:

[XemaSab]

33. I'm guessing that it's the difference between highly educated people

and hugh morans.

[Pisces]

39. That poll was from democrats, not the wolf in sheeps clothing on this board.

[monkeydog]

41. maybe I was too glib

What I am saying is, a certain segment of the population is supporting Obama no matter what.

That would be Afican-Americans, who trend Democratic.

Minorities are under represented on the Internet.

So when we notice differences between our experience in life and on DU, they are due to sampling bias.

The Presidents approval ratings on Gallup seem skewed higher because he has pretty much unwavering support among non-white demographics.

The disapproval we see here may be skewed the other way, because the sample here is not representative of the whole (meaning, over representation of non-minorities).

I guess I should have avoided the phrase "race card" which looks to have created some knee jerk reactions.

[last_texas_dem]

44. What does that mean, really?

One can "approve" of someone and still be pretty strongly disappointed in him or her. I'd "approve" Obama if I was polled because I don't believe in giving the teabaggers any ammunition, but few (scandal-free) politicians have caused my expectations to fall as much- and I think my expectations were pretty reasonable to begin with.

[golfguru]

45. Correct U R, 95% of blacks and 85% of the rest of us

will break down doors, walk 10 miles through rain and wind,
to pull the lever for Obama/Biden in 2012.

[treestar]

47. Of course. Most liberals realize how the system works

And prefer that to some mesmerizing leader who gets everything he wants at all times, and that happens to be everything the voter wants, without having to deal with any opposition.