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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 04:40 PM
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Cloture Reached, Tax Cut Deal Moving Ahead In Senate
Edited on Mon Dec-13-10 04:40 PM by jefferson_dem
Cloture Reached, Tax Cut Deal Moving Ahead In Senate
Evan McMorris-Santoro

Update: At around 4 PM, the 60 votes needed to achieve cloture were reached. The Senators voting no so far were almost all Democrats, save for Sen. John Ensign (R-NV). Others voting no include Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-VT), Jeff Bingaman (D-NM), Russ Feingold (D-WI), Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) and Tom Udall (D-NM).

Right on schedule, the Senate opened debate on the compromise tax cut plan worked out between President Obama and Republican leaders at 2 PM this afternoon. The debate is expected to end with a cloture vote on the controversial plan to extend all the Bush tax cuts while also spending billions on new extended benefits for the unemployed sometime tonight.

That will clear the way for more debate and a final vote on the compromise package some time in the coming days, according to leadership sources.

The debate is expected to split the partisan divisions in the Senate along ideological lines, with conservative and progressive Senators voting against the deal while moderates on both sides of the aisle join together to support it. The debate has split Obama from his own progressive base, who have called the deal a "cave" to Republicans who wanted to extend the Bush tax cuts on the wealthiest as well as the middle class. Progressives want to see the tax rate on the wealthy rise to somewhat offset the cost of the rest of the cuts.

The Senate debate is not expected to be the end to the fight over extending the cuts in the lame duck session, which concludes at the end of the month. Whatever bill the Senate passes must go to the House, where strong opposition from some Democrats could result in a revised compromise package kicking back to the Senate.

In remarks prepared for the Senate floor, Republican leader Mitch McConnell addressed critics on both sides of the agreement. Conservative groups have objected to the unemployment insurance extension included in the compromise, which they say will add unduly to the deficit.

"This bipartisan compromise represents an essential first step in tackling the debt," McConnell said. "Because in keeping taxes where they are, we are officially cutting off the spigot."

Democratic Sen. John Kerry (MA) tried to address the detractors in his base in a statement to reporters announcing his support for the compromise this afternoon. Kerry said the compromise was necessary because "Senate Republicans marched in lockstep to hold middle class tax cuts and unemployment insurance hostage to bonus tax cuts only for the wealthiest Americans." Voting for the compromise, and its extension of the taxes on the wealthiest, is the only way for Democrats to get at least some of what they want, Kerry said.

"I'm not going to stand by and see laid-off workers cut off from their lifeline or see working people take home less and less in their paychecks come January," Kerry said. "This isn't the choice we should have to make, but it is the choice we do have to make, and governing is always about choices."

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/12/cloture-vote-on-tax-cut-deal-underway-in-the-senate.php
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 04:43 PM
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1. Good deal. I must say, it's awfully nice when
things move through the Senate so smoothly. I don't plan to get used to it, but it's a nice change of pace, if only this once.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 05:41 PM
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18. Yep, all you need is a bill that reflects right-of-center ideals and it's a shoe-in. nt
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 04:44 PM
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2. k&r for all the wrong reasons.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 04:45 PM
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3. I like how we're still going with the "they took hostages, and we gave in" spin.
Sounds like a real winner.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 04:45 PM
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4. K & R
:thumbsup:
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 04:46 PM
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5. You know something stinks when almost all the Republicans vote yay
Big red flag if you ask me.
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sciencewins Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 04:50 PM
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9. +10,000 -- A frenzy of Republican Giddyness
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 05:32 PM
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16. +10,000
I'll up that another 10K. The republicans must be thinking "Now that was easy"


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_HebHJGR5JjI/SaIHopS8uUI/AAAAAAAAAWs/EeSvJd5QZg0/s320/Easy+button.jpg


Woe are we Democrats...





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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 05:24 PM
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15. I have to agree on that. I look to the 'good guys' for guidance, and
I know that if the Republicans are happy, we should be on the alert.
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 04:47 PM
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6. Waiting for the show trials denouncing Kerry to begin
In 10, 9, 8 ...
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 04:56 PM
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12. He has his head up his ass
He is voting for the further destruction of our economy, the tax policy that gave us a full decade of ZERO net jobs. Not to mention a full-scale assault on Social Security.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 05:41 PM
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19. .
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 04:49 PM
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7. Senate Advances Tax Cut Package (NYT)
Senate Advances Tax Cut Package
By DAVID M. HERSZENHORN

The Senate on Monday advanced the tax-cut package agreed to between President Obama and congressional Republicans, virtually assuring that the Senate will approve the bill on Tuesday and send it to the House ,where Democrats are threatening to make changes to a provision granting a generous tax exemption to wealthy estates.

The vote in the Senate was not finished, but shortly after 4 p.m. the tally showed more than 60 senators agreeing to end debate, cut off any filibuster and move to a vote on passage.

The majority leader, Harry Reid of Nevada, had agreed to keep the vote open far longer than usual to allow lawmakers returning to Washington from the West Coast to make it back to the Capitol.

Shortly after 4:30 p.m., the vote tally was 69 to 10, with eight Democrats, one Republican, Senator John Ensign of Nevada, and one independent, Senator Bernard Sanders, of Vermont, in opposition.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/12/13/senate-advances-tax-cut-package/?src=twt&twt=nytimespolitics
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 05:42 PM
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20. Who are the 8 Democrats that support the middle class? nm
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 04:50 PM
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8. mcconnell: tax cuts reduce debt by, uh, reducing our ability to pay it down
as we all know, the road to riches is paved with unemployment, because the lack of a paycheck cuts off the spending spigot, and the more you don't spend, the more you save!

brilliant!
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 04:54 PM
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10. Okay, not that this should come as a surprise, but turtles statement isn't even logical...
Edited on Mon Dec-13-10 04:54 PM by truebrit71
..if you are keeping everything as it was, how are you cutting off anything? No, sorry Senator, but by keeping everything as it was you are leaving the spigot jammed in the "on" position. Absolutely NOTHING got "cut off", least of all adding to the debt.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 04:56 PM
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11. K&R up to 2 before it inevitably goes down to 0. n/t
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 05:03 PM
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13. Our descent into tyranny and hell is now complete
the horror
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 05:19 PM
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14. At least the good Senators from New Mexico voted no. n/t
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-10 05:34 PM
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17. "McConnell said 'Because in keeping taxes where they are we are officially cutting off the spigot.'"
That's what it's all about: "Cutting off the spigot:" On Medicare, on Social Security, on all public services and infrastructure.

Too bad the bastard didn't mind not "turning off the spigot" on two unnecessary wars and TARP.

F*ck you, McConnell!!!
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