"Obama Has 'Gotten the Message'"

[Clio the Leo]

Obama Has 'Gotten the Message': NBC-WSJ Poll
Published: Wednesday, 15 Dec 2010 | 6:53 PM ET

By: John Harwood

President Obama remains more politically resilient than mid-term election setbacks suggest— and his adjustment to those setbacks may be helping him.

That’s the conclusion of a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll, which shows the Democratic incumbent leading prospective Republican challengers for 2012 and benefiting from the tax-cut compromise he has struck with Republican leaders. Roughly two-thirds of Americans said Obama has “gotten the message” from voters in November.

“It’s really important to not lose track of his retained strengths,” said Republican pollster Bill McInturff, who conducts the NBC/WSJ survey with his Democratic counterpart Peter Hart.

Though Americans rebuked his economic performance in the election, they fear the consequences of a “failed presidency” and “don’t want to throw him under the bus.”

Obama’s overall job approval remains tepid at 45 percent, around its level for much of the year. But 72 percent of Americans said they like him personally, whether or not they agree with his policies.

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Yet in the compromise he struck with Republican leaders on taxes—to extend all the Bush tax cuts for two years while temporarily cutting workers’ payroll taxes and extending unemployment benefits—Obama may have found a formula for bolstering support on the economy.

By 59 to 36 percent, Americans said they support the agreement—a margin that helps explain why a bipartisan majority of 81 senators approved the package. Despite loud resistance from some House Democrats, the package is expected to pass that chamber as well and go to the president for his signature.

Six in 10 poll respondents called the package “a fair compromise on both sides”, nearly double the proportion saying that either Obama or Republican leaders “gave up too much” in negotiations. And if it fails to win approval, just 15 percent of Americans said they would fault Obama, compared to 70 percent who said they would hold either Republicans or Democrats in Congress responsible.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/40687760

US President Barack Obama walks out of the White House in Washington on December 15, 2010 to hold a working meeting at the Blair House with business leaders to discuss ways to continue to work together grow the economy, create jobs in the private sector, and invest in American innovation and competitiveness.

[emulatorloo]

1. Interesting, thanks for posting. Something worth discussing

wish I wasn't too tired.

[liberal N proud]

2. K&R

Because the un-rec crowd will be loud.

[Mojambo]

3. Generally speaking, fucking over the poor has little to no consequences in American politics. n/t

[frazzled]

24. To have gotten no unemployment ins. extension or earned-income expansion ...

would have fucked over the poor much more. And there was nothing happening with that in Congress.

[StarsInHerHair]

29. except that there is where the Middle Class came from & will return to if

the current trends continue.

[katandmoon]

4. So have many of the people who voted for him in 2008. His betrayals never end.

[Occam Bandage]

5. True, but most of those are conservatives and moderates upset with how liberal he is.

Assuming you believe the polls, that is.

[awoke_in_2003]

10. most of those dumbfucks...

think anyone to the left of Ghengis Khan is liberal.

[Occam Bandage]

17. But yet many of them voted for him in 2008,

and as a result we were spared a President McCain.

[RBInMaine]

11. It's all about the economy. If it is somewhat better by 2012, you will choke on your hyperbole.

[Clio the Leo]

14. HA! nt

[katandmoon]

19. Obama will continue to defer to Repugs and Wall Street on the economy.

[saorsa]

34. "Somewhat Better?'

Hedging your bets now? What a fierce fighter you are for the status quo

[Clio the Leo]

13. Some ..... but not most.nt

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

23. I'm guessing you're not among the betrayed.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4477366&mesg_id=4477557

[Ikonoklast]

26. Happily, people that feel like you are a minority.

Most, and by that I mean a signifigannt majority stand with this president.


But, some people just like to be 'against' things.

The Smug keeps them warm at night.

[StarsInHerHair]

30. petty and smug yourself

nt

[Armstead]

6. Gosh, Americans are glad they didn't get a tax hike...Suprise,Surprise

sure people think this is a good "compromise" if they believe the only alternative is a tax hike on them. That's understandable.

But the fact that Obama and the centrists allowed things to get to that point is the real problem.

Why is it that Obama seems to fight hardest after the horse has left the barn, instead of early on when it matters?

[Occam Bandage]

8. Obama tried to get Congress to vote on taxes before the election. He gave several speeches on it.

Congress refused to act. Not sure how you can blame Obama for that.

[Armstead]

27. They're all to blame

But some leadership when it mattered would have helped

[Clio the Leo]

15. I thought he "compromised before the battle began" or something...

.... I'm so confused.

[sad sally]

18. Every compromise was viewed as surrender and invited new demands

[Armstead]

28. Same thing

The metaphors may be mixed, but the fact is that something everyone has known was coming (for ten years, actually) was presented as a last minute emergency requirement with no time for better options.

Sorts reminiscent of the way the public option was killed and a half-assed health reform was shoved down the throats of Dems.

Whybis it Repugs never seem to allow themselves to be backed into such corners.

[ProudDad]

32. Because the stick to their (misguided, wrong) Principles

The Dems don't have consistent principles or ethics so they're easy to steamroller...

[saorsa]

35. By design,

as long as they can define the terms of engagement, they own the show. Every time a Democrat lets the right define the issue, or caves to a right wing play, he or she validates the right's view of the world, and they proceed to shove it down all our throats. Some people are so afraid of the right, they will trample their own as they are herded into those corners.

[polmaven]

7. Thanks, Clio..

From one uninformed conservative to another......Ain't it great to be so selfish?

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[CakeGrrl]

12. K/R

[tibbiit]

16. I found myself saying SHut Up to him

When I heard him on the radio today saying how the tax cuts will be the greatest... blah blah blah.
It popped out of my mouth automatically as if he were Bush (who only told the truth once imo).
Im shocked I said it, but it was a bullshit story and I had already raised my eyebrow in bullshit warning this AM when I heard that really... Holbroke was just joking, he didnt really mean we need to get out of Afghanistan. Just reading this pisses me off. STOP

I expect obvious propaganda from Repubs. They lie as they breathe. I dont expect obvious bush style propaganda from my own side.
\
so
CUT THAT SHIT OUT. (even though I still like you) Stop!
In fact I just got my envelope from the National Dems asking for money. I dropped it unopened in the trash. I will continue doing that until this bullshit stops.
I will spread my money on a very few, not scatter it to bullshiting republicans in democrat clothes.
tib

edit
lol I said quite a few bullshits lol. but I am really upset at the way things have turned out! I really didnt expect to feel this way.

[ProudDad]

33. Next time, send them one of these...

That's what we do with Postage Paid envelopes...




At this rate, they'll soon have them with Obama's picture on it...

http://www.deceptiondollar.com/8+/EDDlive.htm


On Edit: It appears they already have:

[WiffenPoof]

20. You Know....

....we need to keep in mind that we are sort of in a bubble here. The outside world does not typically think like the typical DUer.

Of course, this cuts both ways...
If the typical voter out there starts to look a lot like what we read here (i.e. criticism of Obama), then you know that it isn't "just us."

Does that make any sense.

-PLA

[Safetykitten]

21. Oh , THAT message. Uh, remind me again, what is the message he is getting?

[great white snark]

25. The message is get things done.

Which he has been doing since day 1.

[Mojambo]

31. ...for the right people.

Namely Wall Street executives and the other parasitic economic royalists.

[lamp_shade]

22. K&R

:thumbsup: