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Mon Dec-20-10 03:28 PM
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| Poll question: Who Will The Republicans Nominate To Lose In 012 |
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Mon Dec-20-10 03:32 PM
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| 1. Palin. The Tea Party loves her crazy ass too much. nt |
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Tue Dec-21-10 08:20 AM
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think Palin will run. Like it or not she is a great fundraiser for the GOP and she can probably get a cabinet post in a GOP administration without having to put all the effort into running a campaign.
Having said that, I cannot help but think that Palin is more of a threat to us than we are willing to admit. There is no other rational explanation that I can come up with to explain all of the effort we put into trying to convince ourselves that she is a kook and unelectable.
Our prospects in 2012 depend on several things, the first is that President Obama is the nominee (we lose with anyone else), house republican investigations into (mainly) the administration of the stimulus money (I'm convinced that that is what the pukes will investigate most) and the economy, the economy being the most important. If the situation with the economy doesn't start a real and dramatic turnaround soon, we are toast no matter who the GOP runs against us.
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Mon Dec-20-10 03:35 PM
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| 2. Incumbent presidents are usually favored to win. But it's not a sure thing. |
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Just ask Jimmy Carter and the first Bush. So I think you should have left the "to lose in 012" part out. Obama's reelection is by no means a sure thing, especially if he proposes cuts to Social Security as it has been rumored.
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Mon Dec-20-10 03:38 PM
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| 3. The GOP will probably throw the election by nominating an idiot (Palin?) |
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They are looking pretty good with Obama in the WH, so why screw up a good thing.
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Mon Dec-20-10 03:50 PM
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| 4. Sadly, you are correct. |
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Mon Dec-20-10 04:11 PM
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But if they want to have a fighting chance, they better nominate people like Gary Johnson who is anti war, anti drug war, pro civil liberties, pro gay rights and hes still fiscal conservative that or the rabble rouser in Ron Paul.
But I think its going to be Mitt Romney, the tea party will be silenced when the big showdown starts, congress and senate elections is on thing but establishment candidate will take this one
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Mon Dec-20-10 05:16 PM
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| 23. You mean just like in 2000? |
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Mon Dec-20-10 06:27 PM
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Mon Dec-20-10 09:30 PM
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| 43. And lose the "012". If you are using shorthand for 2012 it's " '12 ". |
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Mon Dec-20-10 03:53 PM
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They will nominate Palin or Romney.Jeb Bush Is not running.Maybe In 2016 not In 2012.Some mentioned may run In primarys but will get nowhere and are really running for VP.
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Mon Dec-20-10 03:54 PM
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| 6. Mittens. It's his turn. |
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GOP still has a powerful enough apparatus to do that, and once the Teahadists are no longer useful to them their mysterious free press coverage will dry up very quickly.
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Mon Dec-20-10 05:13 PM
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| 21. Only until people bring up magic underwear... |
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The Southern Baptist and Dominionist fundies in particular won't like him.
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Mon Dec-20-10 05:15 PM
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| 22. Huckabee. He's the most dangerous. |
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Edited on Mon Dec-20-10 05:21 PM by backscatter712
He's further right than Attila the Hun, but smooths it over with that Mr. Rogers aw-shucks TV persona. The fundies in the South are gonna be slobbering at his feet, and I have little doubt he's capable of getting the teabaggers slobbering with them.
The only question is whether he's gonna try in 2012 or wait until 2016.
EDIT: Oops, meant this one as a response to the OP.
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Mon Dec-20-10 07:24 PM
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| 30. Huck doesn't fit well on the left-right spectrum |
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Economically he's something of a populist, and to his credit he's avoid immigrant vilification. He's the closest thing to the economic populist/social conservative model a la William Jennings Bryan; I agree he's a real threat.
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Wed Dec-22-10 06:18 AM
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Edited on Wed Dec-22-10 06:19 AM by davidpdx
I think he is far enough to the right that he will win a nomination in a very close race. He also had enough money between his wealth and that of his corporate buddies to fund his campaign. Still many Republicans won't vote for him or will hold their nose and unenthusiastically vote for him, which will spell trouble in the GE. The only thing that would sink him in the primary is the fact that he is Mormon. He made a mistake stepping down as governor and running in 2008.
Just the facts....
Romney's campaign did last quite a year (according to Wikipedia he announced Feb 13, 2007 and withdrew Feb 7, 2008)
Fundraising: $88.5 million
Amount for his own pocket: $35 million
Education: Has both a JD and a MBA
Actual pledged delegates: 240
Number of delegates Romney lost by: 1138
Net worth: $190-$250 million as of 1997
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Mon Dec-20-10 03:57 PM
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| 7. Hey, without his base Obama is very, very vulnerable |
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Just ask President Carter.
President Carter, in a recent interview, talked about how he wished as president he had been able to be more effective in getting the Democratic base behind him.
Admittedly, Obama does not have a Senator Kennedy fighting him, but there are plenty of ambitous Democrats who would love to be president. Look out!
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Mon Dec-20-10 04:21 PM
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| 14. Except this fun thread is about what nitwit the Republicans are going to nominate |
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Edited on Mon Dec-20-10 04:21 PM by emulatorloo
As to your point, be careful about confuse loud opinions with majority opinions. DU is a bubble and an echochamber, doesn't necessarily represent real-world democrats.
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Mon Dec-20-10 04:49 PM
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| 18. The outlook of so called "real-world" Dem's is worse than DU Dem's |
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At least that is what I see from the ones I know personally.
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Tue Dec-21-10 09:50 AM
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| 47. Gallup Dec 13-19 Obama Job Approval: Liberal Democrat 80% |
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Mon Dec-20-10 04:56 PM
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| 19. Real world democrats? |
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I really couldn't even identify a real world democrat anymore. Teachers? Union members? Liberals? None of these are guaranteed to turn out to vote.
I selected Mitch Daniels as the Rethuglican nominee. He would be especially dangerous. He would put Indiana back in the Rethug column, threaten Ohio and Michigan. He would make it very, very difficult on Obama.
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Mon Dec-20-10 08:19 PM
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| 34. You are on the right track /nt |
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Mon Dec-20-10 08:54 PM
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This little DU bubble seems to have a lot of interesting posturing bordering on the ridiculous. I'm supposed to think that they are Dems? It can be a very difficult thing to believe sometimes.
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Mon Dec-20-10 04:04 PM
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Might as well. He's governing on THEIR platform.
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Mon Dec-20-10 04:15 PM
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| 10. Aren't there about a thousand OBAMA IS A REPUBLICAN threads you could post that in? |
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Mon Dec-20-10 04:16 PM
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| 11. They Shat Up My Thread |
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Mon Dec-20-10 04:18 PM
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| 13. LOL, we don't get to make fun of Republicans any more |
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without somebody doing their snarky thing.
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Mon Dec-20-10 04:29 PM
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| 15. It's what they do. If Obama cured cancer, they'd bitch about the pharmaceutical workers ... |
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Mon Dec-20-10 07:07 PM
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That wouldn't preclude me from posting it here, of course.
I disagree with the notion that "Obama is a Republican."
He's just acting like one.
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Mon Dec-20-10 04:17 PM
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| 12. Romney, the fake successful businessman |
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"Why he has run a company, he will turn this mess around!"
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Mon Dec-20-10 08:54 PM
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| 38. God, I have heard that too many times |
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Mon Dec-20-10 04:30 PM
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Mon Dec-20-10 04:46 PM
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| 17. Tea Bag Crazy but looks reasonable |
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So you may be on to something.
Only thing he is more BORING than Romney. Something I thought was impossible.
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Mon Dec-20-10 05:12 PM
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| 20. He's been making lots of trips overseas this year. |
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That's not common for a Governor. He's running at this point. That may change.
If he does run, I think he will be nominated.
-Laelth
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Mon Dec-20-10 05:32 PM
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| 24. Romney is the strongest on paper |
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But he was also the strongest on paper in 2008 and he found a way to lose anyway. Either Romney or some wildcard like Gingrich or Barbour.
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Mon Dec-20-10 06:01 PM
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| 25. John Thune will be the nominee. The "New Face". He gets the fundamentalist-evangelical vote. |
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He will look good to the center. He is a photogenic person, looks good in pictures- that is important to 'murcans. Running him with Rubio will be big trouble for us.
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Mon Dec-20-10 06:03 PM
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| 26. Mitt on GOP ticket, Palin on 3rd party ticket (Teabaggers unite) |
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and Obama will have a cake walk because Mittens and Princess Palin will divide the GOP vote
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Mon Dec-20-10 06:07 PM
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He's got to be getting bored with beating whatever sad sack we nominate for governor every four years.
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Mon Dec-20-10 07:26 PM
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| 31. The Mittster is their only chance on that list and he isn't going to cut it. |
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Mon Dec-20-10 07:36 PM
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| 32. I felt that way when Scott Brown announced. |
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Mon Dec-20-10 08:10 PM
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What many are forgetting here Is Republicans always nominate a front runner.Even back In 2008 Mccain was running second national In polls behind saint Rudy.It are Democratic Primarys that can get unpredible.Look at polls the frontrunners are Palin,Romney,Huchabee,and Gingrich.The rest will not be serious.I am convinced out of four Obama will be up against Romney or Palin. But there Is still a chance of Huchabee or Gingrich as the Republican nominee.
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Mon Dec-20-10 08:41 PM
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It will be more fun if she's in the race.
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Mon Dec-20-10 08:51 PM
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| 37. Hopefully a Presidential run |
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would be her final "blaze of glory" and after she self-destructs in Debate #1 (assuming she runs and, more importantly, makes it that far without quitting), people would finally stop paying attention to her. Of course, they'll be another useful idiot waiting in the wings to replace her. It sounds like Christine O'Donnell might already be getting groomed to be her back-up. :banghead: :puke:
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Tue Dec-21-10 04:25 PM
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| 51. I do too... so long as the economy is better in 2012..... |
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otherwise, she might have a slim chance of winning.
If there is ANY chance of a Republican winning, I'd rather their nominee be someone more centrist like Romney.
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Mon Dec-20-10 08:48 PM
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| 36. Whoever is the oldest whitest fattest man... |
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Is it Barbour? Not sure how old he is?
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Mon Dec-20-10 08:56 PM
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| 39. LOL!! Are we sure he's the fattest? |
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He is pretty damned white.
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Mon Dec-20-10 09:01 PM
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| 40. I didn't see Jindal on your list |
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not that he stands any better chance that anyone else on the list, but his name has been tossed around.
I'm thinking JeB is gonna do it. The crazies will fall in love with and romanticize the idea of keeping the Presidency in the family. Besides, this will be a great time for a trial run. I don't think he has a snowballs chance in 2012, but He can whet some nut case appetites and whip them into a frenzy for the real run in 2016.
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Mon Dec-20-10 09:24 PM
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| 41. It was always going to be Mittens and if unemployment is still around 9% in 2012... |
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It's projected to be above 8%. Use your imagination.
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Mon Dec-20-10 09:26 PM
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| 42. What makes you think they're going to lose? |
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Mon Dec-20-10 10:05 PM
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| 44. Palin would sell more commercials and Americans are already programmed for her... |
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Tue Dec-21-10 10:07 AM
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| 48. I'm going with the white haired white guy. n/t |
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Tue Dec-21-10 02:32 PM
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| 49. Mitt Romney and Chris Christie...nt |
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Wed Dec-22-10 01:52 PM
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| 53. Missing Herman Cain. If he runs, it will be interesting race. nt |
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