Huckabee: Sarah Palin’s wrong, Michelle Obama’s right

[DemocratSinceBirth]

Potential GOP presidential candidate Mike Huckabee says Sarah Palin’s wrong and Michelle Obama’s right, at least when it comes to the first lady’s push to combat childhood obesity.

“With all due respect to my colleague and friend Sarah Palin, I think she's misunderstood what Michelle Obama is trying to do,” the former Arkansas governor said Tuesday on the “Curtis Sliwa Show.”



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[valerief]

1. Dissing his 2012 competition. nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

2. If You Ignore His Views On Gay Folks Which Is Impossible To Ignore

He's actually a pretty reasonable felllow...

[valerief]

4. He's a Republican. You'll never convince me he's reasonable. nt

[JackintheGreen]

6. And this is why the discourse is a poisoned well...n/t

[valerief]

21. Yeah, it's all my fault. I heard his crazy desk story. He's a nutcase and

magic thinker and he supports Republican "ideals", which means ship American jobs to the cheapest labor force in the world.

[JackintheGreen]

26. You're avoiding the point to win a point

In the comment I responded to you made a blanket statement about republicans. You said: he's a republican (so) you will never convince me he's reasonable. Your implication was: ALL REPUBLICANS ARE UNREASONABLE, from which I inferred: and therefore we don't/can't talk or listen to them.

Now here your setting limits your didn't before observe: *He's* a nutcase. *He's* a magical thinker.

And I don't disagree with you on any one point. Not really. But I do take issue with your dismissing everybody designated with an (R) as beneath notice or unworthy of engagement.

Nor am I blaming YOU, and please let's be clear on that. But your comment is indicative of the poisonous political environment that Senator Specter railed against yesterday, the same environment created by (christian) fundamentalists over the last 30 years that we all (rightly) make fun of. It is just impossible to talk to some people.

Unfortunately, many of those people are in congress, and many of them have an (R) behind their names. But to respond in like way is simply childish. The republicans say essentially: Your ideas are stupid. We don't like you. We won't talk to you. Nyah! And people like you (sorry) respond with: No, you are!

He is a republican therefore he is unreasonable therefore I don't need to engage with him.

I get the anger, the resentment, the consternation. But there are a lot of reasonable what used be republicans out there, just not in the senate or the house. I don't agree with them, nor they with me, but the (R)politicians are pandering to what they think of as their base: the extreme right wing. That isn't a base, as in a foundation upon which to build anything lasting. By dismissing those in the demonized center we are conceding the conversation.

"Oh, he call himself and R so let's ignore him." Then they do the same and the whole process re-echoes a thousand-fold.

What we must do instead is engage with those in the middle. The far right won't listen to us. Fuck them. OK, ok, they are in power now, serving in the congress. We need to move the conversation towards those who will engage with us and get them to vote these intransigent motherfuckers out. The republicans in the congress keep moving the chains, and we keep letting them with comments like yours. You're saying stop the game. I'm saying find new people to play with.

[valerief]

30. Okay, all Republicans are not unreasonable. They're all just greedy shits.

They don't know how to share except among 1%ers.

Until that changes, nothing will.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

32. Please See Post 17

Huckabee seems to have given as much thought to the rich-poor divide as your garden variety Democrat. He reminds me of William Jennings Bryan...

[valerief]

33. That was an eon ago. McCain changes his position every few months.

Huckabee belongs to the Mitch McConnell, James Inhofe, Tom Coburn party, the party of the 1%ers. That will never change, no matter what campaigning pols say. Republicans do NOT toss crumbs to the hoi polloi. Only Dems toss crumbs to the hoi polloi.

Look at what they do, not what they say.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

34. If You Do A Google Search You Will See Huckabee Got A Lot Of Union Support In 08

Including the International Machinists Union which is one of the most liberal unions.

Huckabee might be a lot of things but I don't think he's John McCain...

[valerief]

35. That was then. Besides, that's talk. What did he do for his state? nt

[valerief]

37. No, it's because Republicans serve only the top 1%. nt

[vaberella]

8. No, not so much. But he may have some progressive views. This is one of them. n/t

[Grown2Hate]

27. But, as I fear is too often the case with Republicans, his progressive view on this comes ONLY

from his personal experience and struggle with obesity (he and his whole family). Until it affects them PERSONALLY, they could typically give a shit about (fill in policy position here).

[Papagoose]

28. Right on the money

I find that is the case with so many conservatives - they hold their close-minded, greedy and vicious viewpoints until it bites them in the ass. Then it all changes.

[valerief]

31. Eating vegetables is progressive? nt

[EC]

13. Or his views on Creationism, or his views on breaking unions,

or his view on abortion or his myriad of other repub nonscence...he's saying this because he was fat and learned that eating right will slim you down and make you healthier...that's all...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

14. I Didn't Know He Was A Union Buster

Actually his ideas on wealth and its concentration are much more nuanced... He must have done something to win the emnity of Rush Limbaugh...


Again, he lost me on the gay issue... I just don't think he's as easy to caricature as some here want to...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. Are These His Views On Breaking Unions?

"The real fact is, unions are going to take a more prominent role in the future for one simple reason: A lot of American workers are finding that their wages continue to get strapped lower and lower while CEO salaries are higher and higher.

And the reality is that when you have the average CEO salary 500 times the average worker, and you have the hedge fund manager making 2,200 times that of the average worker, you're going to create a level of discontent that's going to create a huge appetite for unions.

So unions are the natural result of workers finally saying, "Look, I can't go from a $70,000 year job to a $15,000 a year job and feed my family of four." That's when unions are going to come back in roaring form.:

http://www.changetowin.org/connect/2007/10/huckabee_unions_are_the_future.html

[bullwinkle428]

15. Watch him address a primarily Christian audience, like a church group

or something similar. He goes into complete "Taliban Huck" mode.

[Arkana]

43. The guy's a nut. But he hides it well with a wonderful sense of humor.

Hell, he even went on the Daily Show during the primaries and was willing to lampoon himself.

Which makes him infinitely more frightening.

[xxqqqzme]

42. And evolution and faith based

everything.

[JoePhilly]

3. Positioning himself as the sane Christo-facist candidate.

[valerief]

5. Ha!!!! That nails it! nt

[Jim Lane]

19. Call me naive, but I think he's sincere on this one.

He himself lost a lot of weight. He probably wishes he'd never put it on in the first place, and so he doesn't want to see a whole new generation of obese kids.

The chance to dis Palin and to appear reasonable by comparison to her is just the icing on the cake an added bonus.

[RamboLiberal]

22. +1 I too think on this issue he is sincere

I disagree with him probably on 90%+ but I do admire he had the willpower to lose that weight. It's not easy. Now he needs to talk to Christie of NJ about losing weight.

[vaberella]

7. And the line of war has been drawn and the battle will soon begin. n/t

[COLGATE4]

9. Let the 2012 Primaries begin!!!

[Kdillard]

10. I am going to enjoy watching them rip her apart.

[WI_DEM]

11. Didn't Huckabee lose a significant amount of weight several years ago?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. Over One Hundred Pounds

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[Jennicut]

16. And his children were overweight too. I think he actually may get this issue.

[Still a Democrat]

18. That's the problem,

only when he has personal involvement or experience does he recognize the value of government.

[Kber]

24. Bingo!!

And a very good observation.

Look - I'll take my allies where I can get them, so long as we keep in mind that a like mindedness on one issue will not necessarily translate into others.

[Jennicut]

44. I agree, these conservatives never get it until it effects them personally.

[Life Long Dem]

20. Let the attacks begin!

:)

[randr]

23. Sarah Palin wins title---Miss Understood

[Dokkie]

25. oh yea

hes definitely running in 2012. Just last week, he died ever supporting cap and trade

[Vicar In A Tutu]

36. I'm not so sure about 2012.

I recall his post midterm comments and my suspicion is that 2016 could be a massive chance for him to win. I think he lets Palin scoop the religio vote and fight Romney this time around and strolls through the field four years later.

[brooklynite]

29. It's nice to think that the Republican Primary is going to be decided on the REAL issues...

S'MORES !

FRUIT SALAD !

[yellowcanine]

38. Invoking the stopped clock rule..........

[Hello_Kitty]

39. He's right. Gotta give him credit.

FLOTUS isn't trying to impose an oppressive mandate on parents or schools. She's promoting education and healthy habits.

[Puzzler]

40. Huckabee has had weight problems all his life (nt)

[RoadRage]

41. I honestly think this was one of Palin's BIGGIST MISTAKES

and considering her laundry list... that says a lot.

Palin appears to eat pretty "healthy". She's an avid runner, and stays in shape. If there was ever ONE STUPID POLICY where she could find common ground with the Obama's - it's this. "Health lifestyles & Healthy Kids". But, she can't even allow herself to be reasonable for 2 minutes... so she opposes something that 90% of the country actually agree's with the Obama's on. It's going to make her look utterly foolish (yet again).

I swear to God.. if Nancy Reagan was a Democrat, I think Palin would tell kids to pick up a crack pipe and take a couple of hits before bedtime just to be "oppositional" to the war on drugs. She's that much of a fuckin' idiot.