Do any of you have your original birth certificate?

[LeftyAndProud60]

I don't :scared:

And why wont the record keepers just give me a copy of the original instead of this abbreviated shit? :grr:


Just asking :shrug:

[jody]

1. I do. n/t

[SharonAnn]

101. Well, I have an old copy that's black background with white letters.

The copy is from about 40 years ago.

[Joe Bacon]

109. I do

I was born in Pennsylvania. My original certificate shows:

My name,
My date of birth,
What borough I was born in,
What county I was born in,
My mother's full name
My father's name.

And it has the impressed seal.

I dare Orly Taitz to say I wasn't born here. She won't utter a peep about it because of the color of my skin.

[Skittles]

2. yes

[Pirate Smile]

3. No

[Blue_In_AK]

4. I think I might have it somewhere,

but I wouldn't even know where to begin to look.

[TBF]

5. Yes - born in 1966 and my mom gave me the original when I moved out -

we were not a wealthy family. I kept it in a lock box with other important documents and still have it.

[Polly Hennessey]

6. Birth Certificate

I do.

[femmocrat]

7. No idea.

If I do, it's in a safe deposit box. I guess.

[cherish44]

8. Nope, Just a legal, notorized copy from the courthouse

No one has ever questioned its validity

[RaleighNCDUer]

10. Exactly. nt

[tledford]

46. Same here.

And I used it to get a passport a year or two ago. No one questioned it.

[butterfly77]

60. The President used...

his birth certificate when he was a Senator,and the teabaggers in the congress and senate didn't question it then either..

[Joanne98]

9. No

[Lucinda]

11. Yep. Well ...certified full copy.

[TheCowsCameHome]

12. Sure. n/t

[rucky]

13. Impeach!

[Kurovski]

81. !

:rofl: someone should impeach your naughty little ass.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

14. I don't think it's the original one...

But whatever it is, it was good enough to get me a passport.

:shrug:

[valerief]

15. I was never born. Nor certified. I'm not even here. nt

[proud patriot]

16. I have a copy the county where I was born sent me

same with my husband.

[ClassWarrior]

17. Yes. So what? It doesn't matter. A legal birth certificate is a legal birth certificate.

Original or not. End of story.

NGU.

[Kurovski]

80. That's it exactly.

I washed my original certificate many, many years ago. (left it in my pants pocket.)

I have my notarized replacement in a wooden box on a shelf, along with my ammo and spare teeth.

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

18. Yes.

[HockeyMom]

19. My original, along with my parent's, was lost by the VA

when my Dad applied for benefits when I was a kid. The ORIGINAL was sent to the VA by the NYC Dept. of Health and the VA lost the originals. Nothing exists except the notation in the Birth Index record. What is on my "offical" copy is just my name, date and place of birth. It doesn't even contain the names of my parents. And they think OBAMA's BC has no info?

I had a hard time getting a passport back in the 70s. It took weeks of them calling back and forth to get a passport. When I renewed my passport a few years ago, I was told that if I didn't have one from so many years ago, with today's increased security, I would not have been issued one today.

[former9thward]

20. I do.

[old mark]

21. Yes, but it is from the hospital where I was born, it is NOT a government certificate -

I have never had one of those.


mark

[jwirr]

29. That is the kind they are demanding Obama produce. Most of us

do not have the hospital copy. Only what was sent to us from the courthouse in our county of birth.

[tledford]

47. I have one of those hospital certificates, too...

...a "Certificate of Live Birth" from the hospital in which I was born. It is totally useless, can't be used for anything at all.

[old mark]

62. Mine looks good, but most people who want to see a BC don't know

it is...Mine is from 1947.

mark

[YvonneCa]

32. That was my situation until last year...

...when I applied to work for the Census. I had to order the official one from the state in order to be hired. :)

[JoePhilly]

22. Doubtful anyone here has the "original" ...

In most states, the hospital kept the original and distributed COPIES.

In my case, where I was born in PA in the 60s, it appears that they create MULTIPLE originals. That is, they take your foot stamp on two or three and then complete those as the "originals". The Hospital keeps one, and your parents got one.

Years later, if you request one, you get a copy.

As hospitals have closed and merged, and as technology has changed, so have the records. So it varies by state.

[east texas lib]

23. Yes.

My hometown school district required it (as well as immunization records) to enroll in classes.

[Exilednight]

24. Yes.

[Art_from_Ark]

25. I don't have the original

But I have requested and received copies of the original from the state board of records on two or three occasions

[LadyHawkAZ]

26. Yes, got it in '89 when I got my driver license

Somehow it has survived all the moving around.

Edit to add: it's not the original, but a certified copy of the original. The quote, long form, unquote.

[jwirr]

27. I do. It is a bit battered but still got it. It still does not have all the info

that orly wants so I can run for president.

[Q3JR4]

28. I have the one the hospital gave my parents.

Does the one with feet qualify as "original?"

:shrug:

Q3JR4

[quaker bill]

30. I do

[GoCubsGo]

31. Nope. Even my parents have a copy.

They never got the original.

[Clear Blue Sky]

33. Yep

[Raine]

34. Yes plus the original baptismal certificate

which can also be used if you don't have a birth certificate. I know because I used to use it before I was given my birth certificate.

[Politicalboi]

35. I have mine, but

When I lived in Pa I brought it to the DMV, and they told me I needed to re-apply for a new one which costs me 26.00. Now I have both. But now I live back in Ca. And I never got a Pa license even though I lived there for 3 years. LOL!

[doc03]

36. I have the original from the hospital, it has my mother's

fingerprints and my foot prints on the back. They do have the my father's birth year wrong so if I was President the birthers would probably be disputing it. On the back it says this certificate of birth should be carefully preserved as a record of value for further use:

1. To establish age for entering school.
2. To establish age when applying for working papers.
3. To establish legal rights of franchise.
4. For jury and military service.
5. To prove citizenship.
6. To obtain passports for travel in foreign countries.
7. To prove to inheritance of property.

It is not from the government though, it says it is recorded in Charleston, WV.

[tledford]

76. When I applied for a passport a couple of years ago, the government wouldn't accept the hospital ...

... certificate, only the one from the county in which I was born. By "hospital certificate" I'm talking about the one with my tiny footprint on it and a picture and the name of the hospital in which I was born.

Of no value as far as the federal government is concerned.

[taught_me_patience]

37. I have a Hawaii birth certificate

and it looks exactly like Obama's.

[Kurovski]

82. So like, then that means

you can enter the white house anytime? Is that how it works? I think Dick Armey suggested this to be the case.

You should try it.

[zbdent]

38. funny story there ...

Mrs. ZBDent and I were going to go to the Bahamas for a vacation a few years back.

However, prior to this, we didn't leave the country at any time before a passport was required. So, off we go, trudging off to get our passports in process, hoping they would arrive before our trip.

In the process of getting the passport application done, I realized that I didn't actually have a "birth certificate" like I thought I had all these years ... don't recall what it said right now ... but the clerk said, essentially, "Well, we will start the ball rolling, and when yours is returned to you for the certified/notarized copy, then you can send it in after you get it from your home state (PA)."

So, we sent ours in (wife's said "Certificate of live birth", which amused her, since she was a premature baby not expected to live, stubborn girl). I contacted PA to have a certified/notarized copy sent to me for the processing.

A few nail-biting weeks went by, and finally, we got the mail from the Passport center.

Both passports ... no hassle ... go figure ...

Had a really nice vacation in the Bahamas ...

[tabbycat31]

39. I do

And my birth certificate from 1980 is less detailed than the version of Obama's available online.

[MrMonk]

40. Had one that was issued by the city (as surrogate for the county).

The city/county would not provide a replacement copy, but provided a certified document with the data from their file copy. This has been accepted by every entity, including the U.S. Government, as a birth certificate. I have since been told that the "official" city copies do not exist in paper form, but are actually microfiche.

[rufus dog]

41. I actually do but here is the cool part

Mine has the nice embossed letters, picture of the Catholic Hospital, my daughters, born in CA, both have Certificates of Live Birth (original) which look almost exactly like Obama's BC.

[PurityOfEssence]

42. Yes.

I was born about a year and a half before our President, but I do have the original.

Then again, I am the product of a fairly stable family with a marriage that ended with the death of one of my parents, so I have all sorts of documents for myself and my ancestors.

This means nothing, though, except that it's not arcane and incredibly uncommon for someone to have the document.

When is this crap ever going to end? Too bad the guy can't have an affair or something so they could go on a good old fashioned Clintonian witch-hunt and quench their pathetic little blood-lust.

[NV Whino]

43. Yes

As well as a notorized copy of the one on file at the county seat..

[Rhythm]

44. I have a certified one from when i was 6, and about to enter 1st grade

My mom had it in her safe deposit box until recently. Now it's in mine.

[Caretha]

45. Yes

One in German and one in English from the US Army Hospital in Austria.

Neither of them did me any good when I lost my SS card and had to apply for a new card in 2007. Had to have a certificate from the Department of State (signed by Condoleezza Rice). It took about 8 weeks to obtain. They had to apply to the Austrian Government for a certificate of birth by US parents and it cost me over $100.

My father would have been so proud. Not.

[BlueMTexpat]

69. That sounds a bit crazy - but perhaps the DOS became that way during

Condi's tenure. What a disaster BushCo was all round!

********
My younger son was born abroad - and not even in a USG facility. I took the original birth certificate from the clinic to the US Consulate and had his birth registered there. That may have been a step that was missing in your case.
At the Consulate, they misspelled his name on the certificate and, instead of correcting the typo, the consular official simply wrote over the typo (an "r" was changed to "n") in black pen. That was in 1967 and people were a bit more understanding of such errors (you have to have worked with a manual typwriter to understand the hassle of typos in those days). Had I been older and wiser, I would have insisted that we be re-issued a new certificate without the error.
My son received his passports that way. But because his passport photos only showed him first as an infant, then as a child, he had to produce his birth certificate again to get a passport when he was an adult. When he presented the original of the Consular certificate to the official, he was accused of having altered the name. So he had to send to the DOS for a certified copy. It didn't take long and, as I recall, it may have cost USD 5 or USD 10, at a maximum. However, when we received the new certificate, we realized then that the original typo had never been corrected for the record. So if he uses the misspelled part of his name at all, it's only as an initial.
Perhaps some day, he'll get the spelling corrected or change his name legally. But it's a lot of hassle to go through for a typo that was never his fault.

[Caretha]

92. The Austrian Consulate

had me listed as a birth that year. That is how the State Department was able to verify the birth cert from the US Army Hospital. That's who I paid the money to, the Austrian Consulate. I realise that it is convulted and doesn't seem logical, but that's what happened. The logic is what drove me nuts and said a few bad words to the SS office employees who were sympathetic and said their lives had become hell because of these new rules. They blamed the Patrotic Act. Yeah, insane...that's the way it is now though, insane.

P.S. My register of birth is also listed in Leopold's Book of "Births in Austria".

P.S.S. Tell your son to never loose his SS card.

[BlueMTexpat]

94. Believe me, we had a lot of grief about the SS too!

It was - almost - more difficult than the passport situation.

Glad that you were able to get your birth certificate verified and am sorry to hear that you had to go through so much hassle.

:hi:

[BlueIris]

48. Yes. nt

[dflprincess]

49. Yes.

but I also have a newer copy (the one that looks like the form all states use now) and that's the one I used when I got my passport.

I didn't want to risk losing the original one with all the extra information on it.

[Clio the Leo]

50. Yes. I will be running as the GOP nominee in 2016...

.... it's a grand scheme. I have my birth certificate. Not only that, it says that I was born in genuine REAL AMERICA ALABAMA! It also has handy info like "caucasian." There's not a slot for cuteness but I was and, still am, pretty cute. Add to this mix the fact that I can quote actual Bible scripture and know all the words to Lee Greenwood's "Proud to be a American." The cherry on top is that I own an ACTUAL RHINESTONE ENCRUSTED American flag pen ... made in China.

I think ALL of these things qualify me for the nomination. With the likely weak field I think I could sweep to victory in the Presidential election of 2016. As soon as I was sworn in, I'd resign my office to my VP .... Former Sec. of State Hillary Clinton who'd been disguised as a white man from TX the whole time.

Yep, I got it ALL figured out.

[Kurovski]

83. Makes sense to me!!!!!!!

Damn the liberal media for not telling us about you!!!!! I think you should move into the White house right fucking now!!!

What's funny about all this BC stuff is that Shrubby was not legitimate in any true sense of the word, but the media rarely harped on those facts, as they do this weak and endless birther horseshit. Stolen Ohio, Florida, a Supreme Court appointment to the presidency. What a world, eh?

[OhioBlue]

51. no - just a certified copy from the Health Department in the

County in which I was born. I think there used to be an original in my baby book, but when my mom left my step-dad, everything was stored in my grandma's basement which flooded... I was in my early 30s when this happened - I never used the original (if it was indeed an original) for anything (tho they probably used it to enroll me in school?) - it always remained in the baby book, in my mom's possession. I used the certified copy that I got from the HD for everything.

[customerserviceguy]

52. I'm prohibited by law from having one

That's because I was born in Quebec City to an unwed mother, but I do have a copy of the one issued by the state of Indiana, listing my adoptive parents as my parents, which is fine by me.

It can get a bit fucked up when the church and the state are one, such as in Quebec province.

[la la]

53. I have what *looks* like

a 'Birth Certificate', but for legal purposes, it's no good! I was born in PA in 1940--have a fancy looking 'birth certificate'---but when i had to get a passport- i was basically laughed at---had to get a notarized legal copy from the commonwealth of PA---

those BC we have in a drawer or lockbox probably are not a real 'birth certificate' -----just sayin'----


( on edit---when hubby had to get his- also from PA--it said "Baby Boy Goodman" --so, all these years---he apparently should have been called 'baby boy'! heh heh)

[Igel]

54. Absolutely.

With vaccination certificates and my baptismal certificate.

Useful thing to have, a birth certificate. Why would I lose it, unless to fire or flood?


A lot of bureaus of records don't want to have to look up the original copies and duplicate them, or the originals include information that they don't want to hand out. Much of the required info was transferred to a database and that's easy to print out. They also control the release of information that way, info you might want to keep private. (For example, my birth certificate includes my mother's maiden name and date/place of birth, my father's full name and date/place of birth, my mother's marital status, and that I was the second live birth for my mother. Things like "mother's maiden name" can be used for ID theft. My mother's marital status could arguably have been a potential source of stigma. Similarly, I had to get copies of my aunt's Florida death certificate will not say she died of cancer because I am not closely enough related to get the unexpurgated birth certificate nor do I have a sufficient and compelling legal reason for that bit of information. For my purposes that proof she died is all that's needed; my father's death certificate says 'self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head'. Different states have different ideas of what's okay to release.)

[cherokeeprogressive]

55. Not the "original" but a certified copy of same, issued by the county I was born in. n /t

[bhikkhu]

56. Long gone...I just have a certified copy. n/t

[catrose]

57. Not the long one

I ordered it 33 years ago to get a passport. It has the same info as Obama's. So conservatives don't have theirs either? Otherwise, they'd know better.

After Katrina though, the shelters gave you the option of ordering the "long form." They wouldn't let me because I already had the "short form."

[eggplant]

58. Yup. And the one from my Moyl. n/t

[PADemD]

59. The original was filed with the state.

I have a copy which I needed to get a passport.

[Lisa0825]

61. Nope. I am 42, and I have had to order official copies three times so far. nt

[shirlden]

63. Original and

a certified copy. Born 75 years ago in Ohio

[vaberella]

64. It's split in half and brown but I still have mine. But I was born in Haiti. n/t

[ieoeja]

65. No. I've posed this Q to friends and family and never received a "yes". So shocked by this thread.

Maybe it's a location thing? Born in Indiana, live in Illinois. Maybe in other states this is common?

[BlueMTexpat]

66. I do. But I almost didn't get it.

It was apparently tucked inside a book that had been on our family library shelves for years. When we cleared out the family house after my parents' death and auctioned off lots of books, one of the purchasers found my birth certificate inside and very kindly returned it to us.
What it was doing there, I'll never know! It was only MY birth certificate; my siblings' certificates were found in my mother's safety deposit box at the bank.

*********

Whenever I have needed proof of birth, a certified copy of the state record (which states "certificate of live birth" and actually has more detailed information than my original birth certificate) has always sufficed. State records of birth ARE proof of birth, no matter how those records phrase it.

[vaberella]

70. That's good that you got yours.

It would have been great to find out the story on how it went missing though if it was found out when your parents were still alive. My mum had this long winded story about my birth certificate. My birth certificate and my sisters went through various name changes before she finally settled on putting my dad's name on it! ^_^

[BlueMTexpat]

95. I was amazed that it made its way back to me.

I guess it helps that I was born and raised in MT, one of the less populous states; just about everybody in that area of the state knew my family and several family members live there even now. But still ... .
And yes, I have often wondered just how it happened to get in the book and which book it was in.

[Arkansas Granny]

67. The birth certificate that was sent to my parents by the state following my birth

is a certified copy. It's the old style of copy (from 1946) that has a black background and white lettering, like a negative. It has the raised seal on it, but it's not the original birth certificate.

[JamesA1102]

68. No is was stolen 30 years ago when my parents apartment was robbed.

Several years later when I needed a copy to get a passport, the city issued me a standardized certificate similar to the one that they show for the President.

[Raine1967]

71. Abbreviated Shit???

I had mine until 3 years ago -- It got lost in a move. My birth state gave me a a certified birth certificate -- Nothing wrong with that.

Do you have a problem with that?

Just asking :shrug:

[a la izquierda]

72. I don't

My husband does, though, and I have the registration of live birth that was good enough to get me a passport.
I don't plan on running for President, so I don't really care.

[slackmaster]

73. I have a certified copy of the original

Embossed with the official seal of the state of Kansas.

[bigwillq]

74. Yes (nt)

[Beaverhausen]

75. Not the one with my footprints, but I have a 'certificate of live birth' from the state

the birthers are screaming about that one the hospital gives you with your baby footprints on it. That one, I don't have.

[tledford]

77. Figures they would want the one that carries no authority and is worthless. eom

[JCMach1]

78. I do... However, the State of Florida doesn't consider it 'official' any more

[CreekDog]

79. I don't and my county said even if I did, it would no longer be valid

as the standards have changed since I was born.

my certified copy from the county records department is the only legitimate document that i need for verification of citizenship.

if there's a long form, i don't remember it, nor would i ever show it to anybody since what's legal is all that is required and all that should be required.

[madamesilverspurs]

84. Photostat of the original

It was sufficient until a couple of years ago, when the county informed me it was no longer valid. I was required to go to the health department for an updated re-issue. The old one is about the size of a small index card, and I was amazed when the clerk at first refused to re-issue the document because I had mispelled my mother's maiden name on the application. Huh? She showed me the line on the old one, and sure 'nuff it was wrong. We went back and forth for a bit, then she decided she didn't need an old lady crying in her office. She issued the new one, collected my fee and sent me on my way. The new one looks like everyone else's now, it's a whole lot bigger and doesn't have as much information on it. The old one gave the address where my folks were living in 1948, I was able to go by and take a picture of the place for Mom's 90th birthday; couldn't have done that if all I had was the new one.

Anyhoo...

[ileus]

85. yeS, and two copies

[dionysus]

86. yes, plus several replacmement copies because i kept losing them. now i have like 5.

[treestar]

87. A certified copy

which is all anyone can get.

[XanaDUer]

88. I do n/t

...

[Travelman]

89. I doubt anyone here actually has the ORIGINAL birth certificate.

Those have been filed directly with the state health departments for many decades. What many people have is a photocopy of this which is then embossed with the seal of the state (similar to a notary's stamp). Lots of people call this "the long form," which is technically correct, in that it is longer than what most COLBs have, but it's not somehow "more" of a birth certificate than a COLB.

What most states have gone to is something generally similar to what Hawaii does: a certificate, with a raised seal, containing the pertinent information, issued on a single sheet of paper (many birth forms in states are now well over a page in length), commonly known as a COLB. This has long been deemed acceptable for proving one's citizenship status with the State Department for the purposes of getting a passport and such. Here in Tennessee, one may still get the "long form" from the state, but it may take several days (COLBs take minutes if you walk into the records building), they cost more, and they are often pretty unreadable. They're really rather pointless, actually, unless you're particularly interested in how much you weighed or how tall you were when you were born or whatever. In Hawaii, though, the state law forbids the state from giving out anything other than COLBs.



For those of you who have "hospital birth certificates:" those are not birth certificates at all. These are, basically, novelty items given to parents by the hospital. They often contain much of the same information as the official record, but they never have had any real official standing. For example, some years ago, I had a copy of my Tennessee "long form" birth certificate (this was before Tennessee went to COLBs), and I happened to compare it to the "certificate" that Baptist Hospital gave to my mother. One glaring difference: my fingerprints and footieprints are (quite thankfully) NOT on file with the state of Tennessee in the vital records bureau.

[texastoast]

106. +1

Thank you for explaining how it works in most states. The OP has an abstract of his long form.

Now if you would just post all this on the Fox snuz and Freeperville sites, so that the birthers can get a clue.

[treestar]

113. Great post

Explains it succinctly. This concept of the "original" is wrong.

[tnvoter]

90. nope. Most people I know don't have the original (they have a dupe)

[lunatica]

91. I do but in order to get my passport I had to get a new certified "original"

which doesn't look at all like the original. They won't accept the old one, so don't worry about not having it. Just go get yourself a new one.

[PSzymeczek]

93. I have a certified copy

of the original. Of course, I got it back in '76.

[robcon]

96. I have a copy with an embossed seal from the District of Columbia.

That makes it official. But it's not an original.

[DevonRex]

97. Um, nobody does. The original is in state records. nt

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

98. No, but I'll never run for president (or dogcatcher)

Now the birthers are probably unwilling to accept a copy of the birth certificate or a photocopy of the passport. But since I'm not running for any office, the birthers can rest easy.

If I decided to run, I would no doubt flunk my own party's vetting process. The consequences of past errors and bad decisions would come tumbling out like a closet full of skeletons.

Yikes.

:hi:

[DailyGrind51]

99. I do, and I scanned it, saving to my hard drive.

[Jennicut]

100. Nope. And I was born in CT, so I am not part of the "real" America anyway.

My kids were born in 2004 and 2005. I think I have their birth certificates somewhere in my house.

[closeupready]

102. No, the hospital kept it, and I guess since they closed, city/county authorities? But I DID once

get a copy of it. I don't know where that is now; I think I have it in my drawer full of records.

[AngryAmish]

103. Yes, found it in my parents papers after they died.

[golfguru]

104. Yes, I needed to present my BC when applying for US citizenship

even though it is not in English!

[kskiska]

105. I was born in CT in 1944

I have an unofficial Hospital Birth Certificate that only gives my name, birth date, sex, and birth weight. It's signed by the Assistant Superintendent of the hospital. It says on the back that this certificate is a record of value for future use:
1. To establish age to enter school.
2. To establish age when applying for working papers.
3. To establish legal age for rights of franchise.
4. For jury and military service.
5. To prove citizenship. 6. to obtain passports for travel in foreign countries.. 7. To prove right to inheritance of property.

There's a place on the back for Family History, which was filled in by my mother giving father's name, mother's maiden name and birthplace, and date and place of marriage.

It has an embossed seal but it's not a state seal. It's the corporate hospital seal.

The certificate notes that "Official" birth certificates can be secured from the Town Clerk in City Hall. The certificate I was given there was wallet-sized with minimal information.

I also have a "Wartime Proof of Birth."

[jesus_of_suburbia]

107. Yes. But my mother keeps EVERYTHING.

[jaysunb]

108. Sure, but they didn't ask for it when I was drafted

and sent to Vietnam....must not be THAT important. :shrug:

[Jeneral2885]

110. How about

George Washington? Is ther a original birth certificate of his?

[timo]

111. yes

mine, the wifes,4 kids...stored in a ammo can inside the safe in my office.

[sakabatou]

112. It's with my parents

[awoke_in_2003]

114. i used to...

but it was stolen by a band of socialist-fascist muslim liberation theologists :)

[GCP]

115. Yes

[mkultra]

116. no. I have a certified copy.

that's what they give out now. why the fuck do you care.

[jberryhill]

117. No, and most states no longer provide copies of the originals

Because nobody to whom you may be required to provide one needs all of that information.

Plus, states used to use a wide variety of forms, which was a forger's paradise. They are moving toward a more standard set of data and procedures.

I'm sorry you don't understand the reasons for the "abbreviated shit"

[yellerpup]

118. Yes, but the embossed seal has flattened out so I had to

get a (new) certified copy when I applied for my tribal membership. So I do have it, but it is useless as a legal document because the seal can no longer be detected.

[PufPuf23]

119. I have three documents.

1. Original "Birth Certificate" that I got from my Mother from St. Joseph's Hospital that has signature of attending physician, a Sister RN as administer, a gold embossed seal on the front and a "Statistical Record" on the back that has my places for Father and Mother (including maiden name), residence, birthplaces, birth dates, and date and place of marriage plus my birth weight, length and two footprints. There is a mistake in that my Mother filled in my own name etc. where my Father's belonged.

2. Original that I got from Mother labeled "Notification of Birth Registration"; one can see there is a serration where more of the document was removed.

3. "Certificate of Live Birth" that looks nothing like actual original in size and layout and has my father's correct information except middle name as first name and no middle name and correct date of birth. There is an inked State Seal on back only and no size statistics nor foot prints. I obtained this from State myself in order to get a passport in 1974.

My Dad was born without a Birth Certificate but I have his original baptism record somewhere not as handy (my Dad was not at all religious) dated in January 1942 that has him three years younger and has his middle name only and no first name. However, he never used his true first name on anything; the only place I ever saw it recorded was in my grandmother's Bible. He lied about his age because he wanted to go to flight school and was too old and had only gone to 8th grade(and he had been flying and had owned planes since the 1930s). He ended up an NCO and spent 3 years in England, France, and Germany. He never talked about France and Germany except leaving for home from Le Harve and brought back a German's Officer's Luger and holster with silver decorations. He was stationed by Salisbury in England.

[CreekDog]

120. OP not interested

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[Dokkie]

121. I do

I just took back from my parents and I plan on keeping it for a very long time