Neil Abercrombie vs Birthers..

[nmbluesky]

Poll question: Neil Abercrombie vs Birthers..

I know that you are so tired heard of this..
vote this What do you think of Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie?
Should he release Obama's birth certificate...
Abercombie was quoted by the Chicago Tribune as saying, "What bothers me is that some people who should know better are trying to use this for political reasons," he said. "Maybe I'm the only one in the country that could look you right in the eye right now and tell you, 'I was here when that baby was born.'"
"It's an insult to his mother and to his father, and I knew his mother and father; they were my friends, and I have an emotional interest in that," Abercrombie told the Times. "It's an emotional insult. It is disrespectful to the president; it is disrespectful to the office."
Do you agree with him?

http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/20101225_requests_increase_for_obama_birth_proof.html

Should GOV. Neil abercombie release Obama's birth certificate

[craigmatic]

1. I like how nobody is saying the obvious about this.

That he's doing this not only because he's a fellow democrat but also because he's trying to get on the president's good side so that Obama will choose Hawaii as the location for his presidential library.

[butterfly77]

2. Why didn't the..

teabagger members of the house and senate want his birth certificate when he was a Senator?

[Golden Raisin]

3. Cause it's OK for

a N-word to be a Senator but not to be a President. :sarcasm:

[butterfly77]

4. I think you've got it...

[Travelman]

8. I must have missed it somewhere ...

Who in Congress has been on this birth certificate nonsense?

From what I've seen, Congress has been the one place thankfully bereft of this BS. I'd be curious to see who in Congress has been demanding a birth certificate.

[butterfly77]

11. That is what they want you to think..

there are some in the Democratic party as well as the RepubliCON party. Just because they aren't stepping up doesn't mean they aren't there.

Many did do a damn thing to help out the President on this or other issues because they agree with the teabaggers,some of them are teabaggers,are you?

[Travelman]

14. Well, OK.

I was looking for a name of someone who specifically went to the floor of the House and said "I demand to see Barack Obama's original birth certificate and also his fifth grade spelling tests, and if I don't see them, then he's not a citizen!"


Point well taken, though, about silence equalling consent. I wasn't thinking of it that way, but it does make sense.

[butterfly77]

18. The main point is...

that they think that many of us don't see it,I have been watching what has been going on since the primaries. When he began winning and he was going against McCain and the crazy ----- became his running mate.

That is when things began heating up and I kept saying where in the hell are the Dems,then I began watching as soon as he took office they started complaining some even started while Bush was still President and I kept saying this is the perfect time to nail Bush ass to the wall but what did we see or hear,not a damn thing.


Then came the healthcare debate and then that was when it became clearly evident what was going on,it was like they had to find someone to come out there and help the President out,and they finally did send out a reluctant Ed Rendell but,you could tell from Carville,and the usuals they weren't going to help in some cases they joined in.

They did nothing to rally people to the town halls to knock the TEABAGGERS down with the bullshit they were throwing out there to twist and tangle up the issues. I watched townhalls where Dem senators and congress people clearly told the audience that they weren't going to vote for the President's bill.

As the President tried to deal with all that Bush/Cheney left him I could see that he was out there alone and he knew it but he couldn't say it and they were coming at him from every direction from day one. He couldn't say that the cop who arrested Gates in his own house "ACTED STUPIDLY"when he did.

He had to spend time on something he answered long before he took office. BIRTHER BULLSHIT. He had to say things a certain way,choose the dog they wanted,choose the school they wanted for his children and other nonsense and then they ask as crisis after crisis occurs why can't he stick with that one issue only, as though he doesn't have many other things to do. Top to it off the so called liberal media joined in and helped out.

I still scream everytime I hear one of these moderators ask a Dem "If you have a majority why can't you pass the bill" knowing damn well why it wasn't going to pass,because of BLUEDOGS who in most cases are really republiCONS who CON many in the Democratic party by talking this shit about how diverse our party is but when it counts, they always vote NO!

[Ptah]

17. Arizona Birther Bill Would Require Obama's Birth Paper

I know it's not the US Congress, but AZ legislatures are
all over this:
http://www.azcentral.com/community/tempe/articles/2010/04/19/20100419birther-bill-arizona-approved-by-house.html

The so-called birther bill won initial approval from the state House on Monday,
advancing legislation that would require presidential candidates to produce a birth
certificate before they can be on the ballot in Arizona.

The bill originated from a group that believes President Barack Obama is not
a natural-born citizen of the U.S. and is ineligible to be president.

Rep. Judy Burges amended Senate Bill 1024 to include a requirement that Arizona's
secretary of state inspect a presidential candidate's birth certificate before
that candidate could qualify for the ballot.

[baldguy]

5. Why should Obama be any different than anyone else?

His birth certificate - the same as anyone else would get - has already been released & verified by the state. Why should he be required to provide further proof?

And what makes the birthers any different than anyone else? They don't have any special right to demand that Obama prove anything.

The thing that's always missed with this birther bullshit is that that validity of the birth certificate is not the issue! A black man is sitting in the White House, and he's a Democrat to boot. In their view that's enough to prove he's unfit for office. And they won't accept anything that proves otherwise.

[Beaverhausen]

6. release what? It has been released.

What are you talking about?

[ellisonz]

10. Correct

[Travelman]

7. I cringed a little bit when I heard this on the radio

While I'm sure it's well-intentioned and an attempt to "put it all behind us," this will only serve to stir up the pot again, just when it was finally starting to settle down.

The Hawaii law is clear on this: neither the governor nor anyone else has the authority to "release the original" as the birthers are demanding. Been that way since 1974. Barack Obama gets a COLB just like Don Ho or anyone else born in the Hawaiian islands does these days. Personally, I like it that way: no special treatment; the President is just like every other citizen.

I would caution the governor to not go overboard and violate Hawaii law, even if it IS in the interest of finally putting this foolishness to rest.

[DrToast]

12. Yeah, I don't think he's helping

Anyone who still doesn't believe Obama was born in Hawaii will never be convinced.

[ROFF]

9. No Do not release

It is an issue that divides the teabaggers from the more sane mainstream republicans. A future republican Presidential candidate will be asked if s/he believes that President Obama is an American citizen qualified to be President.

No matter what the answer, one side or the other will be pissed off and may not vote.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

13. If what he submitted to establish his eligibility to run for POTUS was sufficient

then 'nuff said IMHO.

President Obama, et. al should just ignore this insanity and go on doing the people's business and let the birthers and the stupid lawmakers whom support this c**p chase their tails until they get tired and quit or end up in a psych ward with Glenn Beck (whichever comes first).

[CreekDog]

15. Nope, share the legal minimum that any of us would need to prove citizenship

and share no more.

[Bluenorthwest]

16. You are asking several questions here

What do I think of Neil Abercrombie? He's a great guy, and it was his endorsement that got me to support Obama. So in that regard, I'd give his opinion a great deal of weight. It is very personal to him, as it would be to me.