Which statement is true of President Obama

[ProSense]

Poll question: Which statement is true of President Obama

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[tekisui]

1. It could be all of the above.

[hlthe2b]

2. I'm always curous about polls that don't seem to distinguish...

nor shed light on the issue to any degree. Most DUers will vote that Obama wins and loses some battles even when he fights and I did as well. But, I'm left wondering what is the point?

[ProSense]

5. "I'm left wondering what is the point?" It

doesn't appear that there is much interest in the points if they don't fit a particular narrative.

"Most DUers will vote that Obama wins and loses some battles even when he fights and I did as well."

How did you (if you did) vote in the poll?

[hlthe2b]

6. I told you in my previous thread:

"Most DUers will vote that Obama wins and loses some battles even when he fights and I did as well." :shrug:


So, what was the point you were trying to make?

[Mike 03]

3. A, B and C could all be true, depending upon which battle is in question,

but the question itself should hopefully animate people to consider the possibilities.

[ProSense]

8. No, they can't

"depending upon which battle is in question"

It states "every," not "depending upon."

It's all inclusive so it can't be true. That would mean, for example, that choice C precludes that the President didn't lose any battles he fought, which is absolutely not the case.

[Mike 03]

16. Yes, you are absolutely correct.

I stand corrected.

[Little Star]

4. All of the above.

[Hello_Kitty]

7. I think politicians shouldn't make promises they know they can't keep.

Take the public option, for example. According to the political experts here on DU the P.O. was never possible because the votes in the Senate were never there. Okay, fine, I'll take their word on that. And if that's the case President Obama had to know that long before he dropped his support for it in public.

[ProSense]

10. Interesting

"Take the public option, for example. According to the political experts here on DU the P.O. was never possible because the votes in the Senate were never there."

So a politician should be able to see into the future and play it safe? At the time of the election, the Senate was split 51-49. By your logic the candidates shouldn't have promised anything. The composition of Congress was decided along with the Presidential election.

[Hello_Kitty]

11. I have less of a problem with candidate Obama promising it than President Obama.

Who, if you guys are right about the votes for the PO not being there, had to know the votes were not there very soon into the HCR process. Yet President Obama was promising a public option until well into the fall of 2009. Then he suddenly drops it and pretends he never promised it in the first place. Then we find out he'd cut a deal with insurance companies in the summer of 2009. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/miles-mogulescu/ny-times-reporter-confirm_b_500999.html

Why was he still promising a P.O. after he'd dealt it away?

[ProSense]

12. "Yet President Obama was promising a public option until well into the fall of 2009."

What would he be accused of if he hadn't mentioned it and continued to push for it?

Who is saying that he should have dropped it because there was a chance it couldn't pass?

[Hello_Kitty]

13. Cut the crap, ProSense.

The WH made a deal with health care companies for no PO in the summer of 2009. If there were a time for Pres. Obama to stop promising one and be honest about abandoning support for it that would have been it.

[ProSense]

14. Sorry, I don't buy into

BS conspiracy theories.

[Hello_Kitty]

17. Take it up with the reporters

If you think they're not credible perhaps you should contact them and the publications who printed their reports and demand a retraction.

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[Union Scribe]

15. Not your best effort.

[tekisui]

18. The choices aren't mutually exclusive.

Every battle won could be because Obama fought. The wins could be dependent on Obama fighting. But, his fighting may not be sufficient to win every battle.

Every battle lost could be because Obama did not fight. And, it could still be true that not every time he fought he won.

In other words, only when he fights do we win, however the win is not guaranteed solely due to his fighting. If he does not fight, a lose could be guaranteed.

The poll doesn't work, unless you add an all of the above.