Hoyer: House Will Accept Public Option-Free Bill

[jefferson_dem]

Hoyer: House Will Accept Public Option-Free Bill

House Democrats can't always get what they want, Majority Leader Steny Hoyer told reporters today. But if they spin it right, he said, they just might find they got what they need.

Faced with a likely public option-free health care reform bill from the Senate, Hoyer said House Democrats will vote to move the reform process forward without government-run insurance included.

Much as his colleagues in the Senate Democratic leadership did last night, Hoyer said the political reality in the Senate means Democrats have to look past things like the public option to the "guts" of the bill itself.

" Reid has does not have the votes for a public option, obviously," Hoyer said. "In a world of alternatives, you have to take what you can get."

Though they may have to sacrifice the public option in order to craft a reform package acceptable to the the fickle Senate Democratic coalition, Hoyer said House Democrats still reserve the right to tinker with the carefully-crafted Senate compromise, whatever it may be.

"Just take the Senate bill? That's not gonna happen," Hoyer said. "There are key differences between the Senate proposal and ours and we'll just have to work that out."

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[villager]

1. well of course they will. Their master's voice, and all that.

n/t

[liberal N proud]

2. It's over then

The uninsured can go to hell as far as Congress is concerned.

[MNDemNY]

3. Are you "celebrating" this news??

Put down the fucking pails!

[Armstead]

7. Those pesky progressives have been beaten. For some that;s a victory

[MNDemNY]

9. Apparently.

:o

[jefferson_dem]

14. Loony tunes.

Dems, en block, support the bill. Repugs, en block, oppose the bill.

So what is victory again? According to some DUers, it's obvious. Defeat the bill. :crazy:

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[jefferson_dem]

18. "Win"? Sure. "Ilk"? LOL.

Be honest. You are still bitter over Hillary's loss in the primaries. You should get over it. She has.

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[AndrewP]

27. Yeah, that's true. And sad.

[jefferson_dem]

12. Just reporting on it...

Why do facts offend you?

Whatever.

Feel free to cozy up to the scumbaggish Repugs and cheer for defeat if you like. I choose to stand by the Democrats and am rooting for passage.

[MNDemNY]

15. Those are not "Democrats"

Sucker!!!!

[jefferson_dem]

19. Now you're just making shit up.

So all the Dems who vote for this bill are not really Dems? You need to take a rest.

[MNDemNY]

23. If it is not "spoon fed" to you, or suckled from Obama's teat, you turn a blind ear and eye.

Life is easier when you are told what to think, isn't it?:think: :rofl:

[Clio the Leo]

4. lol, now you know this is just gonna make everyone more bonkers...

.... *I* wasn't going to share this little tidbid. ha ha

[Armstead]

10. People will continue to needlessly get sick and die because we failed...hahahahahah

Barrel of laughs

[MNDemNY]

13. "ha-ha"???? You have truly shown your corporatist colors.

[jefferson_dem]

17. Fuck that.

All the haters and cynics can hop aboard the FAILboat if they want but...

I sure as hell won't help them row it.

[MNDemNY]

24. You got your hands full with those damn pails, anyway!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Clio the Leo]

26. Good point. NT

[MNDemNY]

28. .

:+

[jefferson_dem]

29. ...Brought to us by the poster who refers to Secretary of State Clinton as a "whore".

:thumbsdown:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=433&topic_id=58891&mesg_id=58962

[MNDemNY]

31. "corporate whore"

What is your point??:crazy:

[abelenkpe]

5. Arg!

Dammit! Just announce you're willing to lay down and give up why don't you?

[still_one]

6. Sorry Hoyer, you are getting exactly what you want, and you believe that people don't know any

better

[MNDemNY]

25. From the looks of this thread, he is making a safe bet!

[Freddie Stubbs]

8. Nancy Pelosi: No public option, no bill

As the White House signals that it is willing to move forward on a health reform plan without a public option, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) sent a strong message Thursday evening: not so fast.

In her strongest statement yet, Pelosi said that any bill "without a strong public option will not pass the House":

“Any real change requires the inclusion of a strong public option to promote competition and bring down costs,” Pelosi said. “If a vigorous public option is not included, it would be a major victory for the health insurance industry.”

Pelosi’s remarks come less than one week before President Barack Obama delivers an address to a joint session of Congress as part of a re-launched campaign effort to sell his health care reform bill to both lawmakers and the public. White House aides have said the president will use the speech to offer more detail than he has so far about what sort of bill he'd like to reach his desk.

more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/26742.html

[MNDemNY]

11. That is "water under the bridge".

That is so "last week":rofl: :rofl:

[DrDan]

20. you really should mention that the article was from September

that is fairly important

[Rosa Luxemburg]

22. PELOSI should keep her word!

[MNDemNY]

30. do not hold your breath.

[tekisui]

32. Son of a bitch.

More disappointment.

[DCBob]

33. Unfortunate but that's the reality of poltiics... I really thought the medicare buy-in would pass..

Seemed like a good compromise.