Senate roll call now on a procedural vote on the Ryan plan. Needs only 51 votes to pass.
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Wed May-25-11 04:24 PM
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Senate roll call now on a procedural vote on the Ryan plan. Needs only 51 votes to pass. |
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Edited on Wed May-25-11 04:25 PM by flpoljunkie
There will be four votes on budget plans and each will need only 51 votes to pass. Interesting. Assumed it would be a 60 vote threshold.
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Wed May-25-11 04:27 PM
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1. So ending the tax breaks for big oil required 60 votes |
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Edited on Wed May-25-11 04:27 PM by ProSense
but destroying America's safety net only needs 51?
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Wed May-25-11 04:27 PM
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3. I think the difference could be that this is a procedural vote. n/t |
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Wed May-25-11 04:29 PM
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4. No, the bills will advance if they receive 51 votes, according to C-Span. Obama budget up next. |
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Wed May-25-11 04:34 PM
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5. I suspect It only needs 51 because nobody wants to filibuster. |
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Edited on Wed May-25-11 04:39 PM by Skinner
The Republicans don't want to filibuster their own bill.
And Democrats want to make sure the Republicans vote for it.
(ON EDIT: Not sure. There might be special rules for the budget.)
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Wed May-25-11 04:37 PM
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Sun Jun-05-11 10:00 PM
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15. From what I've seen, they do cloture motions for everything now |
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I think they even did one for the START treaty, which makes no sense to filibuster since it requires 67 votes to pass and only 60 are required for cloture.
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Wed May-25-11 04:27 PM
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2. Could this be part of what changed about the filibuster rules? |
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I remember it having something to do with preliminary votes.
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Wed May-25-11 04:38 PM
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7. It's not a change in the rules. |
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The Dems know they have the votes to stop it, and are forcing the Rs to vote for the bill, making them own it for use in Fall 2012. Not a bad move, imho.
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Wed May-25-11 04:44 PM
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8. Ryan budget fails by a vote of 40 to 57. Wonder who didn't vote. |
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Wed May-25-11 04:46 PM
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9. Republicans voting NO: Brown, Collins, Paul, Snowe, Murkowski |
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Wed May-25-11 05:05 PM
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10. Thanks, jefferson_dem. |
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Wed May-25-11 06:08 PM
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11. Democrats didn't filibuster...they wanted the GOPers to vote on it |
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So why would they filibuster? They want yes votes on record, and they already knew it couldn't pass.
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Sun Jun-05-11 09:41 PM
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14. Filibustering is something the minority does |
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What the Democrats actually did here was to put eight Republican-held seats into play in 2012, because people on Medicare vote in very high percentages.
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Wed May-25-11 07:17 PM
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12. A budget resolution cannot be filibustered |
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They represent only a framework, they are non-binding and do not go to the President.
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Wed May-25-11 07:22 PM
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13. Looks like the repubs are now on record |
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