Howard Dean Speaks For Me - Sign In If He Speaks For YOU!

[demwing]

I'm "Demwing" - It comes from Dean's remark that he's from the Democratic Wing of the Democratic Party. Dean has spoken on our behalf from day #1.

He is not irrelevant. In fact, his is the most sane and relevant voice in the HCR debate.

Thank you, Dr. Dean. You speak for me.

[budkin]

1. Me.

[Laelth]

2. k&r for the Good Doctor Dean. n/t

Kill the bill.

Forcing people to buy insurance is no more the answer to a failed health care system than forcing people to buy houses is the solution to homelessness.

:dem:

-Laelth

[wackywaggin]

9. Demand all Senators and Congresspeople be in the plan!!

For that matter all Federal, sate and local public employees as well. If it is good enough for the gereral public it is more than sufficient for all of them... Otherwise, Kill the Bill!!

Heretic Wack

[Sebastian Doyle]

3. Howard Dean speaks for me!

And for REAL Democrats everywhere :patriot:

[bigwillq]

4. Checking in.

:bounce:

[potone]

5. Me, too.

[Honeycombe8]

6. I speak for myself. Altho I agree with Dean. nt

[alterfurz]

7. count me in

"Health care for profit" just guarantees that health care will be denied, for profit.

[PassingFair]

8. You know that "Arc of the Moral Universe"?

It only bends towards justice because people
like Howard are slugging away day in and day
out to outweigh the greed of the "right" and
the "pragmatism" of the centrists.


"Let us realize the arc of the moral universe is long but it bends toward justice. I must confess, my friends, the road ahead will not always be smooth."

[LiberalEsto]

10. 100% nt

[angee_is_mad]

11. Signing in to say

HELL NO he doesn't speak for me.

[demwing]

27. Thanks

for the kick

[tbyg52]

12. My gratitude to Dr. Dean knows no bounds.

:patriot:

[Odin2005]

13. The Good Doctor speaks for ME!!!

[Milo_Bloom]

14. He seems to be one of the few speaking for me.

It is sad to see the democratic party go as bat shit crazy as the GOP.

[Iwillnevergiveup]

15. Dr. Governor Chairman Dean

One of the best!

:kick:

[PBS Poll-435]

16. Nah. Not really into the hero worship

He would have been my primary vote in '04 if it would have mattered past Iowa, however.

[democrat2thecore]

17. Absolutely! Dean is right on this. -nt

[Joe Bacon]

18. Dean speaks for me.

If you do not kill this bill, it WILL kill the most vulnerable people in our society.

[dkf]

19. He's my only hope.

If he caves on this I'm going to have to find someone else to support. I sure hope he doesn't.

[Hepburn]

20. I'm here....

...and pissed. This is NOT the change I voted for.

:puke:

[DKRC]

21. K&R

:kick:

[Vidar]

22. Yes, Dean speaks for me.

[girl_interrupted]

23. K&R

[Howler]

24. Me Also!!!! n/t

n/t

[jillan]

25. Me!

[AVID]

26. rah rah hoot hoot go team go! *high kick* *split*

[Name removed]

28. Deleted message

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[brentspeak]

29. Present n/t

[levander]

30. Has Howard written any books?

I'm headed over to Amazon now to find out if he's tried his hand at authoring anything decent. It's horrible how few we got that are willing to talk simple truth through all the political smoke and mirrors.

[AzDar]

31. Here.

:thumbsup:

[ima_sinnic]

32. YEARGH! I'm in!

and if Dean doesn't run in 2012, as he says he isn't, I'll probably vote for him anyway (if things haven't improved quite a bit by then with the current candidate).

[Raine]

33. I'm in! nt

[depakid]

34. Anyone who tells it like it is- has responsible solutions that can get done

with political will and fortitude speaks for me.

Dr. Dean happens much more often than not to be that man.

[slipslidingaway]

35. I find it strange, when Dean backed the public option idea many signed on...

to that idea, even though there were no details. But Dean said the PO would be like Medicare and that people could choose single payer, the public option, or they could stay with their private insurance.

When it was apparent that the public option had been severely weakened and would not be like Medicare, Dean still backed the HC reform bill and told people it would be like Medicare... and many people remained loyal to HC reform.

When Dean spoke at the annual AHIP convention and told representatives that the bill would not be that bad, the government would give subsidies to purchase their private insurance, many people still backed the public option.

When Dean said only 5 to 10 million people would be enrolled in the public option by 2019, people still supported the proposed legislation.

Now that these 5 to 10 million people will not be enrolled in the public option, Dean is against the bill and many seem to follow.

Very confusing.

:shrug:


Am I happy that he is speaking out now - Yes.

Is it too late???

Do I appreciate what he has done to put the Republicans in the minority - Yes.

Many people abandoned single-payer and backed the proposed bill because of the people, Dean included, who supported an idea with no guarantee of passage.

IMO that was not helpful in trying to achieve universal health care for everyone.

[demwing]

38. Dean believed that his colleagues would do the right thing

And though there is still time for them to do change course, it is clear that the momentum is against such change. Everyone has a breaking point. I believe I hit the wall at the same time Dean did, and am ashamed of the way he has been treated and dismissed.

[slipslidingaway]

51. Maybe, but it was clear to many when the proposed bills were introduced ...

that the PO was weak and most likely would not get stronger in the Senate. Yet the association between the PO and Medicare was still being made months later.

Better late than never, or the harm is already done???

:shrug:

[inna]

43. +1

I feel the same way.

[slipslidingaway]

49. Thank you ...

a courageous +1 as this view is not popular.

I really wonder how many people would have withdrawn their support for Medicare for All and switched to push the public option if certain groups and individuals had not endorsed the idea of a public option.

:hi:

[clear eye]

53. And no guarantee of what the "public option" even was.

If it weren't for Dean going along w/ taking single payer off the table at the very start of the debate in Congress, we might have had a huge DC protest ready to roll this week when the bill was basically finalized. He kept loyalists on board way too long and crippled our ability to fight back.

On edit: I have to wonder if he was trying to get back into the leadership's good graces by co-opting the desire for single payer, more than trying to get good reform.

[slipslidingaway]

54. Agreed, public option was the reason, for some, to switch from supporting ...

single-payer. Same thing the Dems have done before, take not for profit HC off the table.

:(

[donheld]

36. Yes

:hi:

[joeprogressive]

37. He is the authority on this topic and one of the few with enough

guts to stand up for what he believes.

[HughMoran]

39. He speaks for me

He went a little bit overboard in his comments a few of days ago, but I would never throw my boy Dean under the bus. I still have my Dean pin on my sun visor.

[stewartcolbert08]

40. Yeah! I agree 100% with him!

This bill is a joke! I am furious that Obama isn't putting his foot down about this!

[Clintonista2]

41. I've always loved Dean, and I agree with him 100%

[jannyk]

42. Count Me In! nt.

[KansasVoter]

44. +33 so far! Nice!

[bahrbearian]

45. K&R

[Cha]

46. Yeah, he speaks for me too..

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"This morning, Howard Dean walked back from earlier statements encouraging Democrats to “kill” the Senate health care bill. On Thursday, Dean wrote that “this bill would do more harm than good to the future of America,” but during his appearance on Meet The Press, Dean argued that yesterday’s manager’s amendment significantly improved the legislation. “I would let this thing go to conference committee and let’s see if we can fix it some more,” Dean said:"

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[fadedrose]

47. Thanks Dr. Dean

too late to R..

[Armstead]

48. Yeah

[jefferson_dem]

50. Nevermind.

Wrong thread. :)

[salguine]

52. I want a T-shirt that says "YEEEEAAAGGHH! DEAN 2012".

[DCBob]

55. Dean was just on Rachel and he has caved.. he basically supports the bill now.

One comment he made: "if the Republicans hate it so much, there must be some good in it."