Sen. Mary Landrieu: “Maybe it’s just for his election, which I hope isn’t the case.”

[dennis4868]

“That offset is not going to fly, and he should know that,” said Democratic Sen. Mary Landrieu from the energy-producing Louisiana, referring to Obama’s elimination of oil and gas subsidies to pay for the jobs bill. “Maybe it’s just for his election, which I hope isn’t the case.”…

Can you all believe this bullshit coming from Obama's own party? I know I know, if the bill fails in the senate or Obama is forced to water it down to at least get UI for millions because of people like Landrieu, Obama will be blamed here at DU and by the PL...I know the meme...and it's getting old.

Here's another:

“Terrible,” Sen. Jim Webb (D-Va.) told POLITICO when asked about the president’s ideas for how to pay for the $450 billion price tag. “We shouldn’t increase taxes on ordinary income. … There are other ways to get there.”

http://theobamadiary.com/2011/09/15/liberal-sorcery/

[montanacowboy]

1. Webb a total waste of the word Democrat

Landrieu tool of the oil companies

Most of the Democratic party are NOT democrats and that is why we always lose

It won't change ever

[dennis4868]

3. sad but true....

[TheDebbieDee]

16. I agree...........I'm sick of these turncoat Dems!

Landrieu, Feinstein, Lincoln (she's gone now) and a couple others whose names escape me. They showed themselves during the healthcare reform debate and they make me SICK!

[xxqqqzme]

2. Webb is retiring and

there is nothing Landrieu can say that I will treat w/ any respect. She is lieberman wearing gumbo perfume.

[DontTreadOnMe]

32. "Lieberman with Gumbo Pefume"

classic!

[Davis_X_Machina]

4. There are three parties in Congress...

...but only two labels.

Democrats who are Democrats, Democrats who are Republicans, and Republicans who are Republicans.(1)

Coalition government is never pretty, and only occasionally effective, but the alternatives for the Democrats-who-are-Democrats are 1.) coalition, or 2.) permanent minority. Studying the recent periods of cohabitation in France may be more fruitful that conjuring up the spirit of the deceased FDR, or LBJ.

(1) Up until recently, certainly within living memory, there were Republicans who were Democrats, but they're extinct.

[dennis4868]

5. but there are very few...

Democrats who are actually Democrats. :-(

[Davis_X_Machina]

6. 90-110 in the House.... perhaps 30 in the Senate.

Yet people here expect what is actually only the junior partner in a coalition to be driving the bus.

[totodeinhere]

24. Who gets to decide who the real Democrats are?

Are they the ones that you agree with on the issues? Or do you have some sort of litmus test that they must pass before they qualify? Or do only liberals qualify to be real Democrats? The party has always been a big tent party. And actually, all you have to do to be a real Democrat is register as one.

[Recovered Repug]

31. Determining a "Real Democrat" is a strenuous process.

It consists of 1. Personal interview 2. Talent competition 3. Swimsuit competition 4. Evening wear 5. the onstage question. There is a panel of judges scoring the contestants in each event. A total score of 80 or higher earns the contestant the title of "Real Democrat".

[Imajika]

7. The jobs bill as is, with the offsets, has zero chance of passing the Senate...

There are enough Dems that will vote with Republicans to kill it. The GOP won't even have to filibuster it.

My guess is Harry Reid will never bring it to the floor, at least until it is watered down or changed significantly.

[dennis4868]

9. so fucking sad...

the jobs bill as is is not big enough and because of demsd in our own party it will be killed or watered down (much like the stimulus, affordable care act, etc...)...and after this happens all hell breaks loose here and many will blame Obama of course, that's the way it goes here as the PL gives them their marching orders :-(

[woolldog]

43. I will not blame Obama for.that

because in this case he's taken a clear stand wrt what he's for. He presented the entire bill and has been fighting for it....more or less. He needs to continue to do that. That's not what happened with health care.

[Vicar In A Tutu]

33. It's exactly why Obama needs to keep blaming "congress"

..I addition to the Republicans - more so, in fact. He started calling out Republicans and, as usual, Democrats crawl out of their holes to snip away at his efforts.

It is NOT just the GOP at fault, outrageous and pathetic as they are. The simple fact is that Democrats have done greater damage to his agenda in many cases- they SHOULD back him up, give him a shot. Instead, there's always something to complain about. Just because some political pygmies here scream from the rooftops that he should jump up and down and never compromise, ever doesn't mean that the reality isn't that the GOP is probably the ONLY party he can negotiate with in numbers sufficient to give him a few crumbs of what he wanted. Trying to hammer out a deal with Democrats is pointless, because there's always someone too far to either end of the political spectrum who wants the glory of "making a stand" and fucking it up completely.

Congress are the villains.he should explicitly name Democrats and Republicans from now on - both parties. Rise above the fray completely and look stronger for it.

[Oceansaway]

8. Mary Landrieu=Corporate Whore...n/t

[dennis4868]

11. I don't think I will ever get excited..

anymore if a dems wins a senate seat...as soon as they come to Washington they get their marchinbg order from the republican caucus...onky good thing is that Elizabrth Edwards is an angel from god!

[Supersedeas]

19. her bread is buttered by the oil following from the Gulf

[shraby]

10. Didn't Landreau want to get BP off the hook for the oil spill?

She knows where her bread is buttered and isn't from being a solid Dem.

[dennis4868]

12. I think you are right...

she might as well be a repub, in the pocket of big oil...

[Supersedeas]

35. She also did not like the temporary ban on offshore drilling

Even as the oil was being dumped into the Gulf.

[vaberella]

39. You are correct and she was ridiculously angry about the moratorium on oil companies.

But sadly it's not just her. Her constituents also agree with her and there was a massive backlash against Obama in Louisiana.

[Andy823]

13. Yes,

With "friends" like this who needs enemies, of course I am sure the right wing is loving this BS!

Any member of congress that is going to defend the oil companies over the people of this country, need to be voted out of office, plain and simple, no matter what party they are in! We need to find "real" democrats to run against them in their primaries!

[valerief]

14. Blue Fuckin' Dogs. nt

[demwing]

15. Thats what I said

and was corrected that the Blue Dogs were only in the House.

I say "So What?"

I can hear a dog bark, no matter what house it lives in.

[valerief]

17. Well, D-I-fuckin'-N-Os. Whatever. Thieving, American-hating bastards. nt

[Blaukraut]

18. Everything she does is for her election, so who is she to talk? n/t

[YellowCosmicSun]

20. thanks for the kind words, Benedict Landrieu

[MrSlayer]

21. Yet, when you point out that the Democrats are bought out corporate whores too, you're crazy.

Or disloyal or whatever. It is quite obvious that we have very few people in Congress that aren't on the corporate payroll. Certainly far more than are on the side of the working man. We'll never have anything good done for us again because nothing can pass without the approval of the overlords. It's truth, it's actual and everything is far from satisfactual. We're fucked.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

22. Why oh why is she repeating a Republican talking point?

:banghead:

[Rosa Luxemburg]

27. Makes you wonder!

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

23. DU BLAMES OBAMA!! NOT THE FUCKING BLUE DOG/DLCers IN CONGRESS!!

SHAMELESS!!!!!

[vaberella]

40. It's never about them it's always about Obama. This is how we lost the PO b/c of those two.

But also Lincoln, Bachcus, admittedly Lieberman is not one of us but he was another one. And about 5 other Dems in the Senate---where we needed the votes.

[Cosmocat]

44. I have had endless go arounds ...

with people here on this - BO knew the math from day one, he knew there was ZERO chance of any kind of single payer or public option clearing the senate, and to try to push it from his platform would have hurt his political capital enough to maybe sink the whole deal, like the Clinton effort in the 90s - they were too far out in front and gave the "liberal media" the grist to help the Rs kill it.

BUT, sadly, here at Democratic Underground, people put the knives to the only president in most of our lives to actually PASS ANY kind of NCR reform because he did not go onto the white house lawn and hold his breathe until he turned blue in a fit over the PO or single payer - HE sold us out, don't you know.

:(

[lumberjack_jeff]

25. No Jim, $250,000+ is *extraordinary* income. n/t

[eridani]

26. If Webb was referring to eliminating special treatment of capital gains--

--or proposing a wealth tax, then good on him.

[LiberalFighter]

28. If that ordinary income tax was on ordinary taxpayers I would agree.

Come on people! Challenge people like Webb on their tax lies.

Ask them how much of their income is not taxed. And why the hell should they have more of their income exempt from taxes.

[JI7]

29. hahah i remember when DU was full of Jim Webb For President threads

[Inuca]

36. That's exactly what I was thinking

while looking the message subjects in this thread! In fairness, he has (had?) his good points as well. But for a while he was one the favorite flavors of the month around here.

[Vicar In A Tutu]

30. Wait until the pious amongst progressives

~ tell us how Obama should have forced it through with all his might.

How comic book heroes,

Sanders

Kucinich,

would have hacked down these walls

with nary a fright.

;)

[janet118]

34. This has always been the problem . . .

We get a majority of Democrats and a big chunk of them vote (or lobby) like Republicans. Obama has been fighting this since Day 1. That whole super majority crap was a cover for the fact that Dems would not stand together to pass a decent health care bill or financial reform bill or environmental bill. As long as money talks, these moles will vote as their masters tell them to.

There is no way to get a progressive majority as long as there is corporate and DLC support for Republicans and DINOs. And how do you get any meaningful campaign finance reform passed with greedy incumbents and a corporate majority in the Supreme Court?

[frazzled]

37. And to add insult to injury ...

Aside from these predictable sellout Democrats, we have all the other Democrats sitting quietly in their corners--or, when they are pressed, trying to pass off the blame for their inability to get their caucus together on the president's leadership.

You know, I don't usually bother to write to my Dem Senator (Dick Durbin) or Representative (Danny Davis) because they are reliable votes. But I plan to write/call them both to say "get off your duff and make some noise out here; voting is not enough; you've got to give this bill and this administration your vocal support with constituents and in the media."

I should write Harry Reid, too ... because truly, for too many years he has been unable to maneuver his caucus into a reliable voting bloc. I don't want us to become like the Republicans, who do everything in lockstep. But on the really important shit, he seems unable to muster the leadership to control his caucus. At least make them stop making statements like this to the media. It's his job, not the president's.

[leftyohiolib]

38. ode to mary

mary, mary quite contrary
how does your bank account grow
from silver and gold from exxon and shell
and oily ceos in tow

[Thrill]

41. Says the Senator who votes on things all the times for her election

lol

[truebrit71]

42. Neither Senator is worth a damn...

Both DINO's...