GOPer HAWKs Refuse Loss of Face,,,Grooming Newt to pilot Kamakazi Presidential Campaign 2012

[opihimoimoi]

Limiting Damage to the GOP by using OLD and OUT DATED Individuals....

At 68....Newt is Prime Pilot Material(PPM)

A DeFacto Throwaway GOP Soldier(Ret Div) Newt is Perfect for the Terminal Job

A SALUTE to the Ole Warrior.....Loyal to the Bone....He Starts his Engines and is about to take off...

and he will go on to crash and burn....

Such is the story of a Suicide Pilot in the Arena of Public Power Competition...

There is a time to DIE.....for NEWT.....it will be nx yr

[MADem]

1. I keep thinking it will come down to Newt and Mittsy, and neither side will be able to stand the

other....

So it'll end up being Huntsman.

Mittsy gets VP, Newtie is promised SECSTATE.

Obama in a landslide.

[AlinPA]

2. Huntsman would have to quickly say that he does not believe in science & evolution, that he

hates gays, immigrants, anyone not a Christian (denouning his Mormon faith) and throw out a few birther statements.

[MADem]

6. They might be at a point where they're into mutually assured destruction...

Pick a bottom tier candidate no one likes, and laugh about it.

Kind of like Warren G. Harding...only hopefully, with a different outcome.

[Ter]

8. Define landslide

I think it's at least somewhat close, although everyone has a different opinion as to what a landslide is. I say 400+ Electoral Votes.

[MADem]

15. Like Nixon in 72....w/o the jowls...!

[Ter]

20. A 49 state landslide?

Not gonna happen ever again, the country is too divided.

[MADem]

22. Ya never know!

I thought the country was divided back then. Then again...

"Don't Blame Me--I'm From Massachusetts!"

I actually had one of those bumper stickers on my car!

[Ter]

23. I can see at maximum a 48 state landslide

Utah and Idaho will never go blue. OK and Mississippi would be next to impossible as well. Likewise, Republicans will never win NY or Massachusetts.

Oh well, 46 will be enough, I won't be greedy. :)

[MADem]

24. Works for me, too!

:thumbsup:

[arcane1]

3. Just like McCain

Four years ago, nobody wanted him, and it was all about Thompson,Romney, Huckabee, etc. They ended up with McCain because he was the only one left :rofl:

[MarianJack]

4. A newt gingrich nomination in 2012 would be a concession of the election,...

...just as Mondale in 84, Dole in 96 and mcsame/palin(comparison) in 08.

Sometimes when a party knows it's going to lose they'll put up a sacrificial lamb to take the beating. Another example would be Stevenson in 52 & 56 when NOBODY was going to beat Eisenhower.

Sometimes, like the rethugs in 64 & us in 72, party regulars who were stunned in the primary process will just sit back and allow a nominee that they didn't want just take a beating so they can get rid of what they perceive as extremists from positions of power after a trouncing. I suspect that many of the few sane rethugs hope that a teabagger nominee gets POUNDED next year so they can get rid of them.

The difference between this campaign and the rethugs in 64 and us in 72 is that there was a considerable resistance by the moderates and party regulars to Goldwater and McGovern. For the rethugs this year however, insanity seems to be more and more the litmus test.

BTW, saying what I said about George McGovern is personally painful. At 16 I worked for him in FIVE primary stated and at 17 I broke my ass in the general election. I think that George McGovern would have been a very good president. As McGovern himself said however, in the few years following the 72 campaign, he certainly learned that there were worse things that can happen than losing an election.

PEACE!

[opihimoimoi]

5. Thanks for your post.... :o) Peace is so Left Behind.... :o(

[MarianJack]

7. Thank you!

I end every post that way as a tributr to a DUer who passed away a few years ago. I'm embarassed to say that I don't remember her neme, but I think that the expresion of the idea is important.

PEACE!

[Ter]

9. I think there's considerate moderate conservative opposition

Mitt is in the lead, and Newt, despite being hated, it's really an extremist. None of them are Pat Buchanan/Jesse Helms types. Even Bachman and Santorum support the Patriot Act. The far right opposes it.

[opihimoimoi]

14. The weak Feild suggests a weak COMMONALITY...what Holds the GOPers Together

is a Common Philosophy...

which in this case...

displays a STUNNING LEVEL OF IGNORANCE from all 8 or 9 of them....

Painful to watch, even...

[vaberella]

17. Hello...every candidate so far is a concession of the Election. How is Cain no.1 in Iowa for Repubs?

After the coverage lately. It's a ridiculous state of Affairs.

[MarianJack]

21. With this field that certainly is true.

A party is never served better by defeat than victory, but sometimes if the powers that be in a party KNOW that an election is a lost cause, they put up a scarifice to keep somebody who may have a real chance in a future cycle.

An example that I can think of in a state election is when I lived in PA in 1998, the Dems knew they didn't have a chance againt tom ridge so they nominated a retireing state rep who was nearing 80 to take the beating.

PEACE!

[jmowreader]

10. The question for the GOP is, how do they want to commit suicide?

Do they want to pick a person who's qualified to be president (Huntsman or Romney) and risk the wrath of the tea party, or pick a candidate acceptable to the tea party (basically, any of the others) and find out the tea party is nowhere near as large as they think it is?

If I was running the GOP, and thank every deity I am not, I would work my ass off to get Romney the nomination knowing two things: the choice of Romney means Obama is a two-term president (and really, the choice of ANY of them means Obama is a two-term president) but his presence on the ballot means the down-ticket races won't default to the Democrats. If they were to choose any of the baggers, a lot of Republicans will stay home in 2012.

Something I am really wondering is, if the GOP chooses one of the baggers over one of the Mormons, how will it play in Utah, North Utah (southern Idaho) and Northeast Utah (Wyoming)? I think there's the definite possibility that, if the GOP shuns the Mormon Church by picking one of these clearly unelectable candidates over one of theirs, the Mormons will sit out 2012--which means the Democrats might win Idaho for the first time in forever.

[opihimoimoi]

11. Me think smart GOPer monies will move to 2016,,,,leaving 2012 to Obama

Who will be the Rear Guard Suicide Campaigner for the GOPers??

[jmowreader]

12. Exactly

It suddenly occurs to me that the GOP may also want to throw the downticket races.

Consider: Right now, this country is fucked up due to Republican policies. The Kochs KNOW there have to be tax increases. They won't tell you this has to happen, but they know it does. They KNOW there have to be a lot of regulations reimplemented. They KNOW Glass-Steagall has to come back. They KNOW the Commodity Futures Modernization Act needs to be repealed and complex derivatives need to be banned. They also know it can't and won't be the Republicans who do any of these things because they cannot go back on their sacred oath to Grover Norquist.

So...who's the candidate that's most likely to cause Republicans to stay home? Michele Bachmann and Herman Cain are at the very top of the list, and I think it's going to be Cain because he provides the greatest opportunity for the Republicans to throw Alabama and Georgia.

[opihimoimoi]

13. The HEAT is in the WHITE RANGE for Cain....he is already melting beyond repair....

Newt is safe Bet to carry the GOPer Flag.....but....as in Pickets Charge.....a dooms day strategy

[vaberella]

18. They've said this in the past. And I'm sure they'll be picking Christie as their candidate. n/t

[vaberella]

16. I knew they were going to go back to Newt. Christie as Vice.

Cause he can't take the clowns running for office now as a running mate...it would be detrimental to his career.

[opihimoimoi]

19. Newt/ALLEN...the Macaca Guy??