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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 02:29 PM Original message |
If you kill someone who is pointing a gun or shooting at you it is NOT execution or assassination. |
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Capitalocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
1. I could see them shooting him either way... |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
2. The White House didn't claim UBL was holding a gun. |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 02:35 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. At todays WH Briefing, Director Brennan said Osama put up afight |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 02:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. But Brennan refused to give a yes-or-no about whether UBL was holding a gun. |
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Distant Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
3. Why is this and issue. Most drone strikes can't distinguish innocent and guilty, aggressive or not |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 02:40 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. Because the Seals killed him, not a drone |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
4. If you kill someone after you're ordered to kill someone, is that |
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JustABozoOnThisBus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 04:50 PM Response to Reply #4 |
16. Yes. Either. Both. What you have to ask is... |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 05:02 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Executive Order 11905, signed by Ford and subsequently retained |
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JustABozoOnThisBus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 09:57 PM Response to Reply #19 |
30. Would that apply to Osama? |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 10:37 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. I don't honestly know. I suppose from a purely technical point of view, |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 10:17 PM Response to Reply #4 |
35. Depends on the target. |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
5. He is a legitimate military target |
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jp11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
7. I agree with the title but just because you send an armed team to infiltrate someone's |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
9. All right! An eyewitness account |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
11. I thought he used a ping pong paddle |
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joe_sixpack (655 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
12. I feel pretty confindent there was no plan to take him alive. |
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Bold Lib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
13. That is true. BUT, if you initially started out going to that persons home with |
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Harmony Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 03:13 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. If it is true that he used his wife as a shield |
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Bold Lib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 03:20 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. I do not doubt that he had a gun at all. |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
17. They should have asked more nicely... |
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Contrary1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 06:29 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. Or hired this guy to do the job: |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
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Mz Pip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 05:02 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. If I'm on the worlds most wanted list |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 05:28 PM Response to Reply #21 |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 06:16 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. What you really need to do is actually read what I wrote & try hard to understand it. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 06:18 PM Response to Reply #23 |
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Fool Count (878 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 06:46 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Except that the cop would have been well within his rights |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 07:11 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. Not if I was responsible for thousands of deaths |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 07:19 PM Response to Reply #18 |
29. Not if you're a cop. |
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Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
20. I'm glad they killed him instead of capturing him |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
28. Come on; this was a kill expedition! |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 10:22 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. You say that like it's a bad thing... |
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bighart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
31. Any significance to the phrasing of the following from President Obama's adress last night: |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
32. What were the SEALs supposed to do? Use harsh language? |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
33. I am glad bin Ladin is dead. However, your rationalization is wrong. |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 10:14 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. How about we call it "killing an enemy on the battlefield." |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 10:24 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. What have you got against assassination? Do you feel better about yourself if you think |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 10:25 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Good point. Out of all the people in the world, OBL was the one that most deserved to be whacked. nt |
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LostinNY (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 11:30 PM Response to Reply #33 |
42. You are right |
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NOLALady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 10:57 PM Response to Original message |
40. Aren't they backing away from |
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Charlie Chipps (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-11 11:10 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Some of it may be true but alot seems to be off the cuff propaganda |
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