I think that third-party votes abdicate a voter's influence.

[LoZoccolo]

[Common Sense Party]

1. I think that pimento loaf is nasty.

[TheKentuckian]

2. I like to grill chicken

[madinmaryland]

7. I like chicken breaded with corn flakes!

[TheKentuckian]

24. That is sooo good!

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

3. So? You're conceding that Nader voters in 2000 DIDN'T cause Gore to lose?

Glad to see it.

[LoZoccolo]

14. I do not think that the two ideas exclude each other.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

25. How does that work? They "abdicated" their influence..but swung an election?

Either:

a) they didn't have influence to abdicate
b) they had enough influence to get Bush elected
c) they had influence but not enough to swing the election
d) you're statement about 3rd party voters abdicating their influence by voting is full of holes

[LoZoccolo]

32. Did they intend Bush* to win?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

39. Rhetorical question?

Obviously, they didn't intend Bush to win. Did the Democrats who spurned their votes intend Bush to win?

[dionysus]

4. the gallagher borther do too much cocaine.

[Blue-Jay]

5. I think more people should have monkeys as pets.

[Common Sense Party]

6. I think more monkeys should have people as pets.

[bobthedrummer]

8. I think therefore I am...

[Common Sense Party]

13. I think I can, I think I can, I THINK I Can...

[bobthedrummer]

16. Well what do you know, I know I can, I know WE can, I know THEY CAN...

[madinmaryland]

9. I think the Olive Garden is a great italian restaurant when you are in Manhattan!

[KamaAina]

10. I think that breastfeeding in public should not only be allowed but encouraged.

:evilgrin:

[CrownPrinceBandar]

11. I think Leonard Coen is overrated.

[blondeatlast]

44. I think undertipping is crass. nt

[tekisui]

12. Pure tripe.

[LoZoccolo]

15. Can you provide an example where a third-party vote provides influence?

[bobthedrummer]

17. ^

:rofl:

[bobthedrummer]

20. ^

:nopity:

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[tekisui]

22. Remember Ross Perot?

Remember Ralph Nader? There are more examples. Every vote is a voice and is an influence. You can argue the degree, but their is no abdication of influence.

[LoZoccolo]

35. Did Ross Perot voters intend to elect Bill Clinton?

[tekisui]

37. It had an influence, which you claimed it didn't.

[LoZoccolo]

42. I should have said "intended influence".

[tekisui]

45. I would still disagree. Third parties shift the debate.

And effect the respective platforms. Your obsession with 3rd parties is evidence that they have some influence. You sure think they are important enough to go on and on and on and on about them.

[LoZoccolo]

46. Is Obama more progressive than Gore?

[tekisui]

51. I don't think so. Hard to say, and irrelevant to your argument.

Different elections, different candidates, different issues.

[LoZoccolo]

52. You will have more authority to say that it's irrelevant after you answer the question.

[tekisui]

54. lol. have fun harping on. I'm getting off here.

[mod mom]

23. It got Clinton elected over HW bush.

[LoZoccolo]

36. Did Ross Perot voters intend to elect Bill Clinton?

[mod mom]

55. No, they were libertarian types that usually side w Republicans

[Ichingcarpenter]

18. I think Jar Jar Binks posts on DU sometimes

Yipe! How wude!

[jwirr]

19. Most of the time they do. One exception I can think of was Jesse

Ventura in MN governors race. From what I read so far the liberals in Canada split their voted between two parties allowing the conservatives to take back the government. The only time it does not abdicate your vote is if and when you are absolutely sure the 3rd party candidate is going to win. That has also not happened often. Bernie Saunders comes to mind as a good example. Lieberman as a bad example.

[bobbolink]

26. Only if it is radioactive.

[Warren Stupidity]

27. I love lamp.

Brick Tamland: I love... carpet.

Brick Tamland: I love... desk.
Ron Burgundy: Brick, are you just looking at things in the office and saying that you love them?
Brick Tamland: I love lamp.
Ron Burgundy: Do you really love the lamp, or are you just saying it because you saw it?
Brick Tamland: I love lamp. I love lamp.

Read more: http://www.reelmovienews.com/quotes/movies/anchorman/#ixzz1LJa9cpue

[PufPuf23]

28. I have seen a mathematical analysis that the most powerful way

to lever one's vote in national elections is to register GOP so as to be able to vote in the GOP primaries and then vote Democratic in the final election.

This was long ago as I actually used the strategy and registered GOP to vote against Saint Ronald and Bush I in the GOP primaries.

In my entire life, I have voted straight Democratic except for one Independent and one Green at the county level.

I would have a hard time justifying a vote for DiFi again. She should retire at the end of her term.

[LiberalAndProud]

33. My brother did that to vote against Reagan. Then Bush I gave his vote to Reagan.

My brother still turns green when he remembers.

[PufPuf23]

34. There was another semi-prominant primary GOP candidate in 1980 -

John Anderson -- my GOP primary vote -- who ended up running as an Independent in the General Election.

Bush I was too Iran-Contra related for me ever.

[LiberalAndProud]

47. John went Independent after Wisconsin. Too early for us to vote for him in our primary.

Still, I think about switching my registration some days, because that party nominates ever loonier candidates on a regular basis.

[Better Believe It]

29. My vote and your vote has never influenced a federal election outcome and never will.

But, I vote anyone understanding that fact.

So, if you cast your vote for a candidate who is a socialist or independent, that had absolutely no impact on the election result.

So no person in their right mind should blame your vote for the defeat of any candidate!

It just didn't fricken matter!

Just keeping it real.

[Bluenorthwest]

30. You do?

Huh.

[City Lights]

31. Thanks for sharing. nt

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[Throd]

40. I think flour tortillas are better than corn tortillas.

[blondeatlast]

43. Now those are fightin' words. Besides, corn is more authentic.

So there. Nanny-nanny boo-boo; I've got taco cred more than you!

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[Canuckistanian]

48. I think I'll have another beer

:beer:

[mmonk]

49. I think that a vote for someone that never listens abdicates a voter's influence.

[Baby Bear]

50. I think OP's without text are annoying

I also think it is a waste of time to comment on OP's with no text. So why am I here? Good question!

[LoZoccolo]

53. Do you always speak in entire paragraphs when you converse?

[H2O Man]

56. ...under the influence of what?

[Bonobo]

57. I think that a vote for the lesser of two evils is an abdication of responsibility. nt

[Ikonoklast]

58. Every single vote is for the lesser evil.

Even if there were ten thousand possible choices on a ballot, each person would vote for the perceived lesser evil.


Not logical, otherwise.

[Bonobo]

59. We are talking about motivation.

Has every vote you cast been "for the lesser of an evil"?

Have you never voted based on positive motivation?

I have.