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Capitalocracy
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Thu May-05-11 04:26 PM Original message |
For those of you who believe execution was preferable/acceptable in the case of bin Laden |
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fascisthunter
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Thu May-05-11 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
1. this ought to be interesting |
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dkf
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Thu May-05-11 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
2. I support what was done because I don't believe we would have taken him alive. |
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JustFiveMoreMinutes
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Thu May-05-11 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
3. I'm not going to discuss a speculation on your part that has not been proven. |
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Capitalocracy
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Thu May-05-11 04:39 PM Response to Reply #3 |
16. I'm not speculating. I don't know what happened. But people are saying they don't care |
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EFerrari
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Thu May-05-11 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
4. This is the new normal. |
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dkf
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Thu May-05-11 04:35 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Clinton tried to bomb Bin Laden. |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu May-05-11 04:37 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. Key phrase there is "anywhere in the world." Obama started it (in |
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EFerrari
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Thu May-05-11 04:40 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. The idea that our entire planet is a war zone is grotesque |
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PufPuf23
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Fri May-06-11 03:17 PM Response to Reply #18 |
97. The entire planet, the USA itself, cyberspace, and outer space |
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hack89
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Thu May-05-11 04:45 PM Response to Reply #12 |
29. Don't forget Sudan, Somalia and Yemen |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu May-05-11 04:57 PM Response to Reply #29 |
39. OK. Someone once accused me of "hysteria" when Cheney said we |
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Abq_Sarah
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Thu May-05-11 04:38 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. There was oversight |
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EFerrari
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Thu May-05-11 04:39 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. You can't oversee yourself. In case you were confused. n/t |
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Abq_Sarah
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Thu May-05-11 04:45 PM Response to Reply #17 |
30. We are a soverign nation |
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EFerrari
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Thu May-05-11 04:58 PM Response to Reply #30 |
40. That has exactly zip to do with oversight. n/t |
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Zhade
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Thu May-05-11 05:33 PM Response to Reply #30 |
57. I suspect imperial Rome shared your viewpoint. |
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Johonny
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Thu May-05-11 04:53 PM Response to Reply #17 |
34. vote his ass out then |
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Solomon
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Fri May-06-11 07:30 AM Response to Reply #34 |
87. Thank you thank you thank you |
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Johonny
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Thu May-05-11 04:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
33. This isn't new |
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EFerrari
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Thu May-05-11 04:59 PM Response to Reply #33 |
41. Well, that's true. But recently Cheney fought for it |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu May-05-11 05:29 PM Response to Reply #33 |
56. Puh-leeze. You think this was a "military tactic"? Maybe in XBox 360-land, but |
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Taverner
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Thu May-05-11 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
5. A: It should be acceptable in other cases also, but they need a solid reason |
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cliffordu
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Thu May-05-11 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
6. I think killing him was just fine. |
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Rex
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Thu May-05-11 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
7. Well show me another person that caused as much damage |
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Capitalocracy
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Thu May-05-11 04:41 PM Response to Reply #7 |
20. Easy. Bush. |
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qazplm
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Thu May-05-11 05:05 PM Response to Reply #20 |
45. OBL led to Bush |
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Thu May-05-11 05:07 PM Response to Reply #45 |
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Rex
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Fri May-06-11 01:08 AM Response to Reply #20 |
74. Not so easy and your apples to oranges fails. |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu May-05-11 04:42 PM Response to Reply #7 |
21. Bush caused way more damage and death than OBL could in |
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Rex
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Fri May-06-11 01:07 AM Response to Reply #21 |
73. The two comparisons are moronic. |
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Fri May-06-11 01:13 AM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Deleted message |
Rex
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Fri May-06-11 02:56 AM Response to Reply #75 |
82. No your post was pure garbage. |
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Ikonoklast
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Fri May-06-11 03:11 PM Response to Reply #21 |
96. That 'one million' dead Iraqi number is false. |
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spanone
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Thu May-05-11 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
8. oy |
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robinlynne
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Thu May-05-11 04:37 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. ! |
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KittyWampus
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Thu May-05-11 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
9. IMO, it's acceptable in cases where evidence is overwhelming and it minimizes risk to civilians. |
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The Wielding Truth
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Thu May-05-11 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
10. Here's something to ponder. Is this exceptional? How many OBL's have we bombed? |
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cleanhippie
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Thu May-05-11 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
14. In this case, it was perfectly acceptable. |
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karnac
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Thu May-05-11 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
19. Are you prepared to pay the piper! that's the answer. |
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dmallind
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Thu May-05-11 05:28 PM Response to Reply #19 |
55. Speak for yourself only here. |
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karnac
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Thu May-05-11 08:07 PM Response to Reply #55 |
66. dang, you seem more hard core than i. |
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dmallind
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Thu May-05-11 10:18 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. It's hard-core to prefer the avoidance of ten lives ending over one suffering pain? |
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TheKentuckian
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Thu May-05-11 11:46 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. You also count on having the right person to torture, granting everything else. |
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dmallind
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Fri May-06-11 01:40 PM Response to Reply #70 |
91. as did you, when you said 10 lives saved was not worth it |
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TheKentuckian
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Fri May-06-11 05:17 PM Response to Reply #91 |
101. You don't get to answer questions without answering. |
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dmallind
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Sat May-07-11 07:24 PM Response to Reply #101 |
105. Never seen it - but you have not answered at all, and changed the question to boot |
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TheKentuckian
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Sun May-08-11 10:57 AM Response to Reply #105 |
106. I don't refuse to answer, I don't accept your premise. |
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themadstork
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Sun May-08-11 11:14 AM Response to Reply #69 |
108. I'm guessing the guy being tortured would disagree. |
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OHdem10
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Thu May-05-11 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
22. From day the day we declared war on Afghanistan, I said we |
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Capitalocracy
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Thu May-05-11 04:51 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. I'm all in favor of using special forces to get him |
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OHdem10
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Thu May-05-11 06:11 PM Response to Reply #32 |
65. This was a kill mission. |
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Withywindle
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Fri May-06-11 01:06 AM Response to Reply #22 |
72. This is exactly the way it should have been done in fall of '01, IMO |
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slackmaster
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Thu May-05-11 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
23. I have to recuse myself because I hold bin Laden responsible for the death of a family member |
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robinlynne
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Thu May-05-11 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
24. Are you trying to be the ACLU defending the Nazi Party? I dont think it applies here. |
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Capitalocracy
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Thu May-05-11 04:44 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. No, I'm not talking about forcing people to be sad about it. |
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robinlynne
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Thu May-05-11 04:59 PM Response to Reply #28 |
42. I would rather spend our tax money on food and medicine, personally. |
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Capitalocracy
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Thu May-05-11 05:00 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Apparently that's not an option either. |
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robinlynne
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Thu May-05-11 05:01 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. true! we give it to oil companies, banks, and pakistan..... |
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Distant Observer
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Thu May-05-11 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
25. ABSOLUTELY NO OTHER OPTION: Too many Govs, Agencies, People, could be implicated in OBL saga |
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kath
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Fri May-06-11 01:19 AM Response to Reply #25 |
76. "Too many Govs, Agencies, People, could be implicated in OBL saga"& "executed quickly and before he |
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bighart
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Fri May-06-11 06:43 AM Response to Reply #76 |
83. And by not allowing the capture and trial bin laden, the current administration |
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qazplm
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Thu May-05-11 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
26. It was acceptable, though not preferable |
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FLPanhandle
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Thu May-05-11 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
27. Every standard requires common sense be applied when enforcing it. |
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JuniperLea
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Thu May-05-11 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
31. OFFS |
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Capitalocracy
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Thu May-05-11 04:54 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. In the U.S., a civilian, democratic government has authority over the military |
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JuniperLea
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Thu May-05-11 05:55 PM Response to Reply #36 |
61. You still have no right to information... |
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Politicalboi
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Thu May-05-11 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
35. How is killing your target worse than bombing |
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Capitalocracy
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Thu May-05-11 04:55 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Where did I say special forces shouldn't be used |
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think
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Thu May-05-11 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
38. In a perfect world I would be dissatisfied |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu May-05-11 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
46. Kudos to you for posing what may be the best question to come out |
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Capitalocracy
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Thu May-05-11 05:07 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Thanks, but... |
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coalition_unwilling
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Thu May-05-11 05:24 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. A thought by any other name would burn as hotly (with apologies to |
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Fuzz
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Thu May-05-11 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
49. It was OSAMA BIN LADEN. /ends argument. |
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damntexdem
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Thu May-05-11 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
50. Exceptional case. Nothing else was in practice possible. |
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Capitalocracy
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Thu May-05-11 05:14 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Why should we let them make those decisions? |
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guitar man
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Thu May-05-11 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
51. I think this case was exceptional |
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Capitalocracy
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Thu May-05-11 05:25 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. I wouldn't have a problem with that, but it's not what we've been told. |
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guitar man
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Thu May-05-11 05:36 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. That's the problem with instant news |
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uppityperson
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Thu May-05-11 08:14 PM Response to Reply #58 |
68. + a brazillion |
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JoePhilly
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Thu May-05-11 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
59. As a candidate, Obama said that given the chance he would "take him out". |
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JuniperLea
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Thu May-05-11 05:58 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. Thank you |
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Ohio Joe
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Thu May-05-11 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
60. I believe I made myself clear |
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Demoiselle
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Thu May-05-11 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
63. He declared war on the world. |
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Thu May-05-11 06:09 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. are you talking about George Bush? |
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Thu May-05-11 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
67. For any top terrorists figure, killing on sight is the best option. nt |
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Lil Missy
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Fri May-06-11 12:48 AM Response to Original message |
71. He needed killing. He commited an act of war upon the US. |
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kath
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Fri May-06-11 01:26 AM Response to Original message |
77. Thanks for this thread - your questions provide good food for thought. |
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Capitalocracy
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Fri May-06-11 08:03 AM Response to Reply #77 |
90. Thanks, although most people haven't responded to the question |
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kath
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Fri May-06-11 02:34 PM Response to Reply #90 |
95. I've been hammered a bit in another thread for asking a question (though not as important as yours) |
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themadstork
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Sun May-08-11 11:17 AM Response to Reply #77 |
109. Yeah, I had the feeling going in that the responses would not be systematic arguments for when |
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BzaDem
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Fri May-06-11 01:29 AM Response to Original message |
78. We will continue to go after declared combatants against the United States, just as any country goes |
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LiberalAndProud
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Fri May-06-11 02:00 AM Response to Original message |
79. Yes, this is an exceptional case. |
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coalition_unwilling
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Fri May-06-11 03:20 PM Response to Reply #79 |
98. Glenn Greenwald has said it best: |
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kath
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Fri May-06-11 10:13 PM Response to Reply #79 |
103. "His actions led directly to the declaration of two wars" - this statement |
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Raine
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Fri May-06-11 02:33 AM Response to Original message |
80. It is completely acceptable to me |
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shoutinfreud
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Fri May-06-11 02:35 AM Response to Original message |
81. I am now with holding judgment on this until a few weeks when the story is solid |
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leftynyc
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Fri May-06-11 07:08 AM Response to Original message |
84. For anyone responsible for the |
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Matt_in_STL
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Fri May-06-11 07:19 AM Response to Original message |
85. This is a pretty easy case, IMO |
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RegieRocker
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Fri May-06-11 07:27 AM Response to Original message |
86. First: How do you know he was executed? |
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Capitalocracy
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Fri May-06-11 07:48 AM Response to Reply #86 |
88. If you read the OP, I say I don't know. |
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RegieRocker
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Fri May-06-11 07:53 AM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Hind sight statements mostly. Had he been captured there still would |
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Cerridwen
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Fri May-06-11 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
92. I'm relieved that |
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blondeatlast
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Fri May-06-11 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
93. There are leaders who are assholes, there are leaders who are murderous assholes, |
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Fri May-06-11 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
94. While you may think .. |
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Karenina
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Fri May-06-11 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
99. Neither. It's another case of "S/he's outta here. NEXT. |
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Fri May-06-11 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
100. whoops, didn't read this thread |
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Capitalocracy
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Fri May-06-11 08:30 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. That's an unpopular opinion... |
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blondeatlast
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Fri May-06-11 10:19 PM Response to Reply #102 |
104. Kudos for respectfully addressing points of view not shared by you. |
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HysteryDiagnosis
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Sun May-08-11 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
107. If he could have been captured and turned, he might have shut the whole thing |
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