Fourth marijuana conviction gets Slidell man LIFE in prison

[Tx4obama]

Fourth marijuana conviction gets Slidell man life in prison
http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2011/05/fourth_marijuana_conviction_ge.html#incart_hbx


WOW! That is HUGE waste of taxpayers' dollars not to mention just plain stupid!

[bluerum]

1. What a waste.

[TheDebbieDee]

10. That's what the "3 strikes" sentencing requirements do to

non-violent offenders!

[MrsBrady]

2. i think drugs should be legal and regulated like alcohol, prescription drugs, etc...

However, I do not like to be anywhere near marijuana.
I do not want to go to jail.

[aikoaiko]

8. Its true. I stopped smoking weed by the time I was 17 because jail was unappealing.

I'm all for legalizing pot, but until then I stay away.

[rl6214]

34. I think we have a whole lot more problems with alcohol

than we do with pot. Legalize it already. And no, I don't smoke or drink.

[RKP5637]

3. It's the American way. Build more prisons, big profits, throw as many in jail as

one can = big bucks for some. US = "Jailed Nation."

[Tesha]

5. The Prison-Industrial Complex consumes a huge swath of taxpayer dollars...

...and has no intention of giving up one cent of them.
Ergo, drugs *MUST* remain illegal so the tax dollars
keep flowing.

It's also helpful that a huge number of African-
American males are currently incarcerated or have
been incarcerated, removing their ability to vote
(likely for Democrats).

Tesha

[TheDebbieDee]

11. We ARE a prison nation.................

Here, we have 5% of the world's population yet 25% of the world's prisoners!

[sarcasmo]

13. +1

[RKP5637]

15. Each day is just one more WTF. If anything, that should tell us we're F'ed up, but no,

the US will just plod along, US = United Stupidity, Inc.

[Odin2005]

4. This is the new slavery, cheap manual labor that can't say no.

[RKP5637]

7. Yeah, it is, isn't it ... and their answer will be, "well, we're bringing manuf. back to the US."

[midnight]

6. I agree with you 100 percent....

[barbtries]

9. cruel and unusual punishment

this is wrong, so wrong.

[sarcasmo]

12. Tax it and legalize it now! Life in prison for weed is just plain wrong.

[Mojeoux]

14. On taxpayers dime too! Legalize it!!!! ~nt

[FLPanhandle]

16. I think it should be legal, but this guy was an idiot too.

Just out on 5 year probation after his 3rd offense and he's caught with 2 pounds of the stuff along with a digital scale and a dozen baggies already filled with pot?

Someone wasn't too bright.

[TheKentuckian]

18. Hell, there are folks who have voted for Bush and Bachman multiple times.

That is dumber than dogshit, legal or no.

[here_is_to_hope]

17. I am reading this story while sitting

in a room filled with 16 legally growing immature marijauna plants.
What a difference a State makes.




(edited because some were mature a few weeks ago)

[palmtree guy]

19. meh

if he was just a smoker and it was smaller quantity I could see the outrage, the guy was dealing...after being caught multiple times, plus I dont like the carnage weed causes my friends to the south, rules are rules,change them or play by them!!

[here_is_to_hope]

20. Carnage eh?

That evil fucking weed just causing carnage...Yeah, can't see it bro.
I like pizza after getting baked.
You?
Yes, he was dealing, mid street level if he was using baggies (every one I know here in the NW uses jars any more) but to go from slinging 1/8ths to life in prison, well, just fuck no.

There are far more pressing issues for Louisana to be dealing with.


I personally do not wonder why the South can't have nice things besides its landscape.

I think thats why Uhaul was invented.

Not just no but fuck no.

[palmtree guy]

26. carnage

I was reffering to all the dead people in Mexico, some of which were innocent by standers 2 of which I knew personally, yes carnage every time you smoke out you do your part to encourage the wholesale slaughter of Mexican citizens, some of them deserve to get killed, a lot of them don't!!!

[here_is_to_hope]

29. Mexican weed? wtf?

Nope, I do not contribute to any cartels, domestic or otherwise.
I would no more puff mexican weed than shoot myself.
You have me confused with some one else.

Aside from which, all the more reason to legalize it, eh?

Sorry about your 'friends'.
Done here.

[palmtree guy]

31. you think

the cartels dont own any domestic grow shows?

[here_is_to_hope]

32. Not in the State of Jefferson, no.

And I would be remiss if I didn't say welcome to DU and enjoy your stay.

Back to the point you brought up, we do not see mexican weed up here nor any activities of any cartels. Our border brothers up here are hard working, tax paying Americans-regardless of legal status-quite unlike the riff raff that has been allowed to pollute the southern climes.
To the south a bit, there are rumors of border brothers planting on State and Federal lands, ignore these rumors propogated by those who need the money in the law enforcements schemes.
We would not allow it to happen. And I am speaking for every legal and otherwise grower up here.
They wouldn't be able to buy materials, fertilizer, food, gas, tools, nada.
Locals won't sell that stuff to people they don't know and without the basics, you ain't growing shit.

[palmtree guy]

35. sure i believe you

http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2010/05/mexican-drug-cartels-in-oregon-and.html

you know we recently had a narcofosa (thats a mass grave ) discovered about an hour and a half from my house, the guy who was in charge of filling it up?? he was raised in Yakima Washington, you might think you have it all shored up safe n sound, I hope your right but I bet your not.

[here_is_to_hope]

36. Right, give me a link to a site that

is funded by those who profit from the war on weed.
A thorough Google search turned up.....ZERO busts on Fed or State land by ANYONE here in the Northwest.
Are you following along?
I didn't think so.
I call bullshit on your claims to mass graves any where near your house.
Dare to think for yourself, done here, for some, the lies are easier than the truth.
mfw...

[palmtree guy]

37. ok here you do the search

ok, I live in Mcallen Texas, google san fernando tamaulipas in mexico...genius!!
http://www.themonitor.com/articles/grave-48888-san-source.html

[palmtree guy]

38. here, surely you can believe this??

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4826094http://o.seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2014830371_estrada21.html

takes about an hour and half to drive from Mcallen to San Fernando.

[palmtree guy]

39. seattle article

http://o.seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2014830371_estrada21.html

[here_is_to_hope]

40. So this loser grows up in Yakima

And that means that Mexican cartels are growing weed up here and killing people?
Buddy, you need to get out more. Up here is different. As a society, we seem to be more involved in day to day goings on around us. We speak up.
I see Peter or Pedro growing dope in the woods, armed and polluting and I make phone calls.
It just doesn't happen up here.
I think we are just a bit more civilized than where ever the fuck you are living.
But go on, live in fear, some get used to it, some accept it and some...

[palmtree guy]

41. your so right

i am totally wrong in assuming that your areas are being infiltrated by the cartels, those guys would never set up indoor/outdoor gro shows and meth labs, and that the polite society you live in has no drug/gang problems, my bad, please send map quest directions to your utopia the rest of the country is missing out on.

[here_is_to_hope]

44. Right, like I want

those who think and act like you to fuck things up for those who live in reality.
You can continue on your merry way to where ever it is you are going.
Done feeding you.
plonk.

[Javaman]

45. People like to think that MS-13 doesn't exist.

I live in Austin. I completely understand what you are talking about.

[Romulox]

53. Isn't a big part of MS13 *people* smuggling, too, though?

Every time you buy a tomato, it may have been picked by someone smuggled into the country by MS13! THAT MEANS THAT YOU HAVE BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS!!1!!!!1!!!11!!

:rofl: :hi:

[Javaman]

56. They deal in everything.

and I buy my veggies at a local farmers market. I know the farmer very well. He hires illegals all the time and pays them a living wage.

So you were saying?

You really don't have a clue about MS-13 do you?

[Romulox]

57. You admit to participating in illegality. The blood on YOUR hands? "That's different", I guess.

"You really don't have a clue about MS-13 do you?"

I know at least as much as you do about the drug trade. :hi:

[Javaman]

61. You haven't a clue about me.

You have no idea what you are talking about nor do you have any insight regarding the MS-13.

so please try and get down off your "you are just like me" BS because, I can asure you, I am nothing in the least like you.

I always find it amusing by people who think they know everything.

[Romulox]

63. I'm not interested in you--merely demonstrating the logical inconsistency of *your argument*

You've threatened to pout off now two or three times, btw. :hi:

PS: I find the Drug Warrior with Hurt Feelings routine quite pathetic! :hi:

[Romulox]

"Human trafficking in Mexico targets women and children"

http://articles.cnn.com/2010-01-13/world/mexico.human.traffic.drug_1_maria-ciudad-juarez-trafficking?_s=PM:WORLD

[palmtree guy]

65. no no no

really its all utopia up there, no cartels no gangs, meth isnt a problem, they have hot and cold running cool aid and every house comes with your choice of a pony or 2 unicorns!!

heads in the sand

[Romulox]

66. Logic problem: Drugs are *already* illegal! You gonna make 'em SUPER DUPER illegal?

:rofl:

[palmtree guy]

71. head in the sand problem

people thinking that their state is immune to Mexican drug gangs because their growers of dope are somehow held to a higher standard and wouldn't "allow" it to happen, evidently its bad if the government profiles but Oregon dope growers can do it just fine!!

[Romulox]

74. You aren't coherent. You complain about the status quo, and in support of it at the same time.

"people thinking that their state is immune to Mexican drug gangs..."

Drugs are ALREADY illegal. And yet your gangs thrive in spite of (or, more likely, because of) your senseless prohibition.

You have gotten your way, and yet you still aren't happy. So... What change are you arguing for? Death penalty for the first joint?

[PeaceNikki]

69. *you're

That's what we call a "tell" in poker.

[Romulox]

51. LULz. What stops cartels from owning ANY legitimate business?

OMG--you think the cartels dont own any Joann fabric shops? You MURDER someone every time you crochet!!!!! :silly:

[Romulox]

50. This is a bizarre argument. Care to do the math for us? Show your work.

"yes carnage every time you smoke out you do your part to encourage the wholesale slaughter of Mexican citizens"

Bullshit. Prove it! :hi:

[bullwinkle428]

21. How much carnage does alcohol do in comparison to weed?

[palmtree guy]

27. carnage

www.blogdelnarco.com

[Romulox]

52. "That's *different*!!!" ™ nt

[Warren DeMontague]

23. Any 'carnage' you're referring to is due to the stupid drug war.

It's nice of you to be 'reasonable' enough to understand the outrage at putting a pot smoker in prison for life, though.



You DO realize those are YOUR tax dollars paying to incarcerate this dude, too, don't you?

[Javaman]

46. We can legalized it here all we want...

but if Mexico doesn't, there will still be many people killed.

[Warren DeMontague]

47. The drug violence in Mexico is primarily around cocaine.

I don't think pot is the problem.

[Javaman]

54. Pot is a big seller. Think of it this way...

cocaine sells for big profits, but pot is the bread and butter industry.

While huge shipments are found now and then, virtually every month huge loads of pot are found coming across the boarder.

Living in Texas has given me a huge education in the drug trade.

What I want to know is this: when and if pot is legalized here in the US, how will pot smuggled across the boarder from Mexico be classified?

Frankly, in the real world, I think Mexico will legalize both pot and coke before the US does.

Watch the right wing anti-immigration nuts go into overdrive then. It will become virtually impossible at that point to for pot to become legal in the states as long as the repukes maintain control of the message.

[Romulox]

55. Any evidence to support your otherwise naked assertions?

I notice that you PUNTED on the MS13/people smuggling connection, too! YOU have blood on YOUR hands! :silly: :hi:

[Javaman]

58. ?

I didn't punt. As I stated, they smuggle everything. And I refuted your charge regarding how I get my vegetable. So I have no idea what you are saying and frankly, I don't think you know either.

And it appears as if you enjoy being obtuse and not having an adult conversation.

So we are done.

You seem to want the last word. If that makes your day, have at it. I prefer to have a real conversation instead of accusations.

[Romulox]

59. I assert the opposite of everything you say. I have presented the same amount of evidence as you.

And I know, I know. You COULD make a cogent, logical, and factually supported argument.

You just *don't want to*. :silly:

[Javaman]

60. ?

what are you after? do you have this overwhelming desire to be right? Or do you just refuse to take a persons personal experience from living in an area that his heavily populated by MS-13 as not evidence?

Nor do you care about how I provide information regarding my willing to pay a bit more from a farmer that pays his illegal vegetable pickers a living wage.

I don't know what game you are playing but frankly, I think you are a bit nuts.

So as a result, you may now have the last word and as an added bonus, you will also be ignored.

Have a nice day. Ta! :)

[Romulox]

62. You said, " but pot is the bread and butter industry". I assert the opposite.

We have presented the same amount of evidence on this matter.

"do you have this overwhelming desire to be right?"

LOL. I've asked you to back up your otherwise naked assertions. If that is "nuts" to you, then you're not ready to participate in a discussion. :shrug:

"Nor do you care about how I provide information regarding my willing to pay a bit more from a farmer that pays his illegal vegetable pickers a living wage. "

That's because this neither backs up your point, above, about the profitability of the Mexican drug trade, nor does it support your broader argument in support of Drug Prohibition.

[Warren DeMontague]

64. "how will pot smuggled across the boarder from Mexico be classified?"

Crappy, full of stems and seeds.

Unless things have changed significantly since I was in High School.

[LetTimmySmoke]

22. Expect this kind of thing to continue

So long as the Prison-Industrial-Complex has lobbying power.

[leftynyc]

24. A stupid criminal

You want me to feel sorry for someone who was stupid enough to try again after 3 convictions for the the same crime? There are plenty of stupid laws - we don't get to choose which ones are enforced.

[phleshdef]

25. No, but we do get to debate which ones should and shouldn't exist...

...which is exactly the point of this being posted here in the first place.

[leftynyc]

28. True nuff, however,

while I think pot should be legal, I can't bring myself to get outraged when somebody behaves this moronically.

[Cid_B]

30. Thats my point...

You see these guys on prison shows who have been in jail 5 or 6 times...

You'd think at that point they would realize they aren't very good criminals and should choose another profession.

[Bragi]

67. Amazing how many are disadvantaged minorities, eh?

What do you make of the fact that the best way of predicting if someone will be one of those criminals you view as incompetent is whether a person is socially and economically marginalized and disadvantaged?

Odd that, that and everything else we know about criminology, eh?

[Warren DeMontague]

48. No, some laws are simply fucking WRONG. Would you say the same thing to a gay couple in Texas

before the Lawrence decision? Maybe you would.

I suppose that it doesn't matter that IT'S NOT THE GOVERNMENT'S PLACE TO TELL TWO CONSENTING ADULTS THEY CAN'T HAVE SEX WITH EACH OTHER IN THEIR OWN HOME, nor does it matter that IT'S NOT THE GOVERNMENT'S PLACE TO TELL A CONSENTING ADULT THEY CAN'T SMOKE A RELATIVELY HARMLESS PLANT IN THEIR OWN HOME.

I guess THE RULES are THE RULES!

Yay RULES! :eyes:

[Hannah Bell]

33. he gets life, the drug-running bush family gets taxpayer-funded retirement.

what a world.

[madokie]

42. Must be young and strong

the prison industries needs able bodied men and women you know.

[AlabamaLibrul]

43. "attempting to possess and distribute marijuana" nt

[Romulox]

49. Approves (along with a disturbing number of DUers!)

[TK421]

68. lol...WHAT THE FUCK?

[fascisthunter]

70. he gets life and war criminals get interview in our Fascist Media

[-..__...]

72. As much as I disagree with the War on Drugs...

and that marijuana at least should be legalized... this guy fucked up, pure and simple.

One would think that after the 2nd/3rd time, he should have realized that dealing in weed wasn't

the best career choice.

He knew the rules... he knew the game... he knew the consequences, but still chose to take his chances.

He gambled, and he lost.

He has no one to blame but himself.

[Romulox]

75. LOL. Just like black men KNEW which lunch counters they were allowed to eat at.

Civil rights = not for potheads? :shrug:

[Zax2me]

73. LIFE?!

Silly...

[Blue_Tires]

76. He should have been a Wall Street hustler...Those guys never even get arrested