Obama's speech in Ireland moved the crowd and, for the first time, really moved me!

[Snoutport]

I was a big Hillary supporter...in fact, she was the first politician that I have donated money to. So, I've been kind of a skeptic about Obama. BUT....I just watched his speech from Ireland. One of the best political speeches I have seen in a long time...and I graduated in speech with an emphasis on speech writing.

That was one hell of a speech.

[Tx4obama]

1. For those of us that weren't big Hillary supporters ....

Obama gave many speeches that moved me before he became president.
The first was his speech at the 2004 convention.
Several of his campaign speeches were also very moving.

I am happy that "you've been moved" because now perhaps you can understand what many of us have felt many times before now :)

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[DFab420]

10. Oh yea?

How about the bombs dropped on Iraq for the past decade thanks to Junior and his lackeys.

Or afghanistan?

But thanks for your concern.

Obvious .... is obvious.

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[madamesilverspurs]

21. Fernhill?

Hey, I grew up with a Jackie Fernhill. His family moved in next door when I was about 7. We were neighbors until my dad's job transferred us right before I started high school. Jackie used to think it was funny to sneeze on our food at lunch.

Anyway, Fernhill isn't a name you hear every day, so I wondered if you're related?

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[fernhill]

23. Naw, just one of my fave poems by Dylan Thomas

Fern Hill

by Dylan Thomas

Now as I was young and easy under the apple boughs
About the lilting house and happy as the grass was green,
The night above the dingle starry,
Time let me hail and climb
Golden in the heydays of his eyes,
And honoured among wagons I was prince of the apple towns
And once below a time I lordly had the trees and leaves
Trail with daisies and barley
Down the rivers of the windfall light.

And as I was green and carefree, famous among the barns
About the happy yard and singing as the farm was home,
In the sun that is young once only,
Time let me play and be
Golden in the mercy of his means,
And green and golden I was huntsman and herdsman, the calves
Sang to my horn, the foxes on the hills barked clear and cold,
And the sabbath rang slowly
In the pebbles of the holy streams.

All the sun long it was running, it was lovely, the hay
Fields high as the house, the tunes from the chimneys, it was air
And playing, lovely and watery
And fire green as grass.
And nightly under the simple stars
As I rode to sleep the owls were bearing the farm away,
All the moon long I heard, blessed among stables, the nightjars
Flying with the ricks, and the horses
Flashing into the dark.

And then to awake, and the farm, like a wanderer white
With the dew, come back, the cock on his shoulder: it was all
Shining, it was Adam and maiden,
The sky gathered again
And the sun grew round that very day.
So it must have been after the birth of the simple light
In the first, spinning place, the spellbound horses walking warm
Out of the whinnying green stable
On to the fields of praise.

And honoured among foxes and pheasants by the gay house
Under the new made clouds and happy as the heart was long,
In the sun born over and over,
I ran my heedless ways,
My wishes raced through the house high hay
And nothing I cared, at my sky blue trades, that time allows
In all his tuneful turning so few and such morning songs
Before the children green and golden
Follow him out of grace.

Nothing I cared, in the lamb white days, that time would take me
Up to the swallow thronged loft by the shadow of my hand,
In the moon that is always rising,
Nor that riding to sleep
I should hear him fly with the high fields
And wake to the farm forever fled from the childless land.
Oh as I was young and easy in the mercy of his means,
Time held me green and dying
Though I sang in my chains like the sea.

[KT2000]

2. Great speech -

I am so proud he represents the American people abroad. He knows how to give the love and receive it too.

[Snoutport]

29. That was some crowd

I know he is very popular abroad but that crowd was INTO IT. You'd think he was THEIR president.

[DefenseLawyer]

3. Nobody ever accused our President of not being able to give one helluva speech. n/t

[zalinda]

4. The problem is, he has no follow through. n/t

[DFab420]

9. Except for

A) HealthCare Reform
B) Consumer Financial Protection Bureau
C) Capturing/Killing Osama bin Laden
D) Significantly increased funding for the Violence Against Women Act
E) Cut prescription drug cost for medicare recipients by 50%
F) Signed New START Treaty - nuclear arms reduction pact with Russia
G) Signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, restoring basic protections against pay discrimination for women and other workers
H) Signed the Children's Health Insurance Reauthorization Act, which provides health care to 11 million kids -- 4 million of whom were previously uninsured



So what else would you like to see follow through on?


You can always go here: http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/

[Snoutport]

15. remind me not to cross DFab420

:o)

if this was a debate i think you just won.

[malaise]

19. LOL

:rofl:

[zalinda]

32. Yeah, sure the limousine liberals got some of their wish list.

A)How about keeping the tax cuts for the rich.
B)Extending the patriot act.
C)Not only keeping the wars in Iraq (yes, it's still a war, he just changed the name), Afghanistan, and now Libya.
D)Health Insurance Reform.
E)Catfood commission.
F)Guantanamo still open.
G)Drug raids on medical marijuana clinics.
H)Trillions of dollars given to bankers, with out accountability (they still don't know where all the money is).
I)Not one banker has yet to go to prison.
J)No one in the Bush administration is even being investigated, much less going to trial. Obama even stopped Spain from investigating.
K)Has not changed the conditions with NAFTA, but has now added other 'trade' agreements to the table.
L)Supports charter schools rather than public schools.
M)No re-importation of drugs (big pharma back door deal)
O)Doesn't think that it is the governments responsibility to create jobs.

Would you like me to go on?

All the crap that Obama has done, means absolutely nothing to those people who are without jobs, without a home, without food, and think they are lucky to live in a tent. When he gives a damn for the 80% of the people who are suffering, then I'll think better of him. Until then, I won't be giving him an 'atta boy' for making those who have a comfy life feel better.

zalinda

[Obamaforthewin]

22. "Read" one helluva speech.

NT

[Lucian]

5. Speeches are meaningless unless they're backed up by actions.

[DFab420]

8. Sometimes I wish I could just hide replies, but keep threads

Cause posts like this are just silly.

[fernhill]

13. It's silly to point out that talk is cheap?

[Qutzupalotl]

18. Politics and diplomacy are done almost entirely with words.

So, yes.

[csziggy]

14. Talking points are rampant here! n/t

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[Luciferous]

11. Yep, we all know the man can give a good speech. It's the

follow through that's the problem.

[Snoutport]

16. He spoke of being friends with Ireland and how we have a shared history

wasn't a speech about promises

[NYC Liberal]

26. Speeches themselves (of any sort) can inspire their listeners to take action.

So actually, no, a speech is not always "meaningless" if it isn't "backed up by actions" by the speaker.

Of course presidents should be getting things done, but a speech on its own doesn't have to be meaningless.

[treestar]

30. Amen.

It is ridiculous to say speeches can do nothing.

[malaise]

6. The speech was brilliant - must watch

http://www.cspan.org/Events/Obama-Visits-Ireland/10737421696-1/
Video
http://www.shallownation.com/2011/05/23/president-obama-dublin-ireland-speech-video-may-23-2011-address-at-college-green/
Transcript

[madokie]

25. Thanks for the link

This man makes me so proud to be American because even though we've briefly lost our way, soon we'll find it again. All inclusive President Obama, good man great President and I can say that even though he's barely past the half way point of his first term.
Wow :hi: :hug:

[KittyWampus]

20. I would seriously like to hear you critique his speech from an academic standpoint.

It'd be fun.

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[WinkyDink]

27. His speeches leave me stone-cold any more.

[fernhill]

28. "Stone-cold anymore?" Is that regional?

'Stone-cold now' is more like it! And I concur...

[uponit7771]

31. There are a lot of other people who hate him too

[TomCADem]

33. It Was Great and I am Sure Its Blowing Donald Trump's Mind

:)