@&#%&% #@^%#&# !!!!!!! The answer is 75. SEVENTY #&@%$* FIVE!!!

[Snoutport]

The question is this: How many carbs were in my student's breakfasts today?

A 2.5 oz pre-packaged buttermilk bar and a .7 oz fruit strip. 4 oz of funky fruit juice.

That was breakfast for teenagers on the federally funded lunch program. 3.2 oz of food and 4 oz of juice. I have two diabetic students. They also got sent the 75 carb breakfast. At lunch I drove to show a nurse and she was appalled. 30 carbs is what a breakfast should have, she said, "This is why we have a diabetes epidemic."

Lunch had a turkey sandwich (on a small bun-no lettuce, processed meat, processed cheese) a 2" across apple (a mini apple, basically) and a small bag of corn nuts.

You know it is EXTRA pathetic when the packaging for the .7 serving of "fruit" actually has to write on it, "One full serving of fruit!"(boiled down to a sugary strip) and the "vegetable" -corn nuts has printed on the package "contains 3/8 cup of vegetables!" Corn nuts have been the vegetable probably 30 times this year.

I got someone to cover my class and headed to the head of nutrition's office. Even though I have been told to leave it alone and not make waves (I've been barred from the cafeteria for complaining) I could not longer take it.

What the $@%$ do they expect me to do? Cut the 3.2 oz of food in half so my diabetic students could eat 1.6 oz of food for breakfast? How is that student supposed to perform when they are starving? I mean, ethically, how can I be expected to feed that $%&@ing garbage to my students?

I was ready to call the newspaper...and then I decided I wanted to keep my job.

But it is enough to bring a grown man to tears.

[DainBramaged]

1. You are a DU hero, and I do not understand why this is in the Lounge

this is an important nutrition lesson, but I guess it has comedy relief......

[Snoutport]

3. it got locked and it was moved. I don't understand the move either.

[DainBramaged]

11. Could have been a response to the title, maybe you can change it?

[Snoutport]

12. I sent a message and asked if I could edit it if that would help

It is a bit insulting to be in the DU lounge between "do you remember lps" and someone complaining about speeding.

Lps, poisoning children, speeding, cute kitty vids.... "one of these things, is not like the others, one of these things just doesn't belong."

[Obamanaut]

2. My local paper has an anonymous rant/rave feature every week. If yours

has such a thing, you might try that.

Interesting that an OP having to do with saving birds from cats stayed in GD, and this was moved to the lounge.

This seems to be more important than a potential danger to a crow or mockingbird.

[Snoutport]

7. I do advocate for crows and mockingbirds too though...

They just want to eat a healthy meal too!

[CaliforniaPeggy]

4. Check your PM...

[Snoutport]

5. You are a most excellent supporter!

:0)

[Curmudgeoness]

6. Why was this moved to the Lounge? We are not supposed to

have things to piss us off here. But it is here so....

Do you know anyone who would be willing to write a LTTE or call the paper? A LTTE is better, since they have to put their name on it, and it will not be your name (sounds like they will blame you otherwise), you troublemaker you. I am always the one who is willing to write those letters for people who are afraid to have their names listed for whatever reason. You will just have to find a way to make it less technical so the general public can see the problem easily.

Good luck.

[Snoutport]

8. I have one more year as a probationary teacher.... :0) I have to be good!

[flvegan]

9. Honestly

I'd be more concerned that (short of a small apple) they were fed nothing but garbage, top to bottom. Carbs just being a small part of it.

Or maybe that's what you're saying, and I just focused on the subject line.

[Snoutport]

10. Yeah, it is pretty much across the board crap....

the fresh fruit is OK but they get the tinyest apples you have ever seen.

[flvegan]

13. I almost laughed at your "head of nutrition" part.

Obviously if that is someone's job, they've failed massively.

[Snoutport]

14. Out of classroom budget money and the pockets of me and my EAs we've supplemented

The food is better on some days but on days like today we have oatmeal, peanut butter, other stuff to share. Some kids from the other classes don't take their fruit sometimes so I snag that and we make fruit smoothies out of them so they get some more fruit. But, jeez, I have a busy enough day without having to figure out ways to feed hungry teenagers!

[flvegan]

17. They don't do a set menu?

I obviously have no clue about your school (public/private/charter) but my limited exposure to school lunches (think documentaries and Jaime Oliver's tv show) makes me think that they should be. I'm a LONG way from being in school and I know that we had very little choice (most of which, looking back, was still crap). I'm just surprised that one can be one who delegates nutrition for a living and do such a horrible job. I'm glad that the kids have folks that will go the extra mile. My mom was a teacher for over 20 years, so I know how that goes.

[Snoutport]

23. our class is not in a regular school so we get sack lunches.

so there are some limits on what we can get...but it could still have nutritional value even if it is a cold lunch.

[CreekDog]

29. how many districts put special needs kids all together, offsite, with substandard food...?

i'm not an education expert by any means, but i thought schools weren't doing that, nor allowed to operate that way.

and Portland? Portland/Multnomah County is hardly a backwater.

[Snoutport]

41. charter schools very rarely accept kids in special ed.

so portland has closed dozens of schools. students are bussed all over and special ed kids are ending up in buildings by themselves. It must be happening in other cities as well.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

15. Yay!

You're back where you belong!

:kick:

[KittyWampus]

16. Actual advice- contact diabetic kids' parents to inform them. They may not know or understand.

It's up to the parents to change this, IMO.

[Snoutport]

19. I keep food for them at the ready

and the parents have been good about sending in extra stuff. I have made sure that the needs are being met. But that only helps my classroom. There are 50 other kids in the building getting the same food.

I am fighting for a systematic change so everybody is getting a good breakfast. MY students never want. I make sure of that!

[KittyWampus]

26. Do what you can. But for your sanity remember- it's up to the parents. That's when things will chan

change. When parents decide to get involved.

[NYC_SKP]

18. Deep fat fried salted funky CORN NUTS are frickity frackin' VEGETABLES????

Did I read that right????

Salty greasy corn nuts are VEGETABLES?

:banghead:

:banghead:

:banghead:

[Snoutport]

21. Says it right on the package for complainers like me! Just in case I got confused

OMG...3/8 of a cup of cornnuts...I bet they measure AFTER they puff it up. It isn't even 3/8 cup of actual corn, I'll bet!!

[DainBramaged]

24. What are corn nuts not like?

[Snoutport]

34. But how does the corn industry profit from those?

[NYC_SKP]

35. AND... If you add "batter-coated French fries" to the meal, you'll have TWO fresh vegetables!!!

Well, it almost happened.

What almost happened (but didn't) was to classify Ketchup as a fresh vegetable.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2004-06-15-fries_x.htm

I'm looking for other strange healthy foods...

Hang in there.

[Snoutport]

39. Have you seen chicken fries?

It is a hollowed out french fry filled with a squirt of chicken goo. most disgusting food item i've ever seen on a school lunch plate.

[NYC_SKP]

46. Who the Hell Comes up with this shit? Mengele???

I'm scared if I'm a chicken, I'm terrified if I'm a child having to eat that thing!


Chicken Goo (on way to becoming nuggets):

[CreekDog]

47. Since Portland schools already seem to buy a lot of fresh food, feeding kids this seems costly

like a costly addition.

[CreekDog]

20. why don't they serve the Portland schools menu?

also the special ed class students you teach, are you saying Portland puts them in a separate and in a less than standard facility away from non-special needs children?

and Portland is a total foodie town, not that this automatically translates into good school lunches, but considering the effort they appear to put into their standard menus, and the putting your special needs students offsite --the whole thing strikes me as rather odd.

[hobbit709]

22. When Donna was in charge of the kitchen at her emergency shelter

They had to comply with all the USDA crap. The didn't like some of her breakfast menus becuase they contained too high a percentage of fat. So USDA substituted sugar and carbs in their suggestions.

[DainBramaged]

25. YAY YAY YAY YAY

Back in the groove

:fistbump:

[CreekDog]

27. is this in Portland?

or Denmark?

[DainBramaged]

28. I don't understand the question....

[CreekDog]

30. i don't fully understand anything here

:shrug:

[DainBramaged]

33. OH, sorry, it's about lack of nutrition in Portland schools

:hi:

[Snoutport]

36. it might have been the "welcome back" that was confusing...

might have thought i was on vacation! (to the DU lounge)

[CreekDog]

40. Well this makes nutritionists and staff at Portland schools look like monsters --but I'm skeptical

yes, there's low quality school food in various places.

in Portland? Portland people complain if the coffee isn't perfect. In Portland, they complain if "organic" isn't the right kind of "organic".

heck, even the food carts do sustainable things.

this doesn't make any sense to me.

and what school forces foster kids with the same developmental disability to be offsite and served substandard food --in a major US city --not even a poor one!

i need more info to be convinced.

(does that answer your question?)

[Snoutport]

42. and how am i supposed to do that? invite you to my school for lunch?

can't do that so you win and you don't have to believe me.

[DainBramaged]

43. Sometimes it is best to cut bait and fish another day

or go to the market and buy fillets.......


:fistbump:

[CreekDog]

52. So you're saying I need to just accept this and believe it

i guess that's what i'm expected to do.

[Snoutport]

54. I posted a picture--here it is again.

[CreekDog]

57. so the other school prepares the bag lunches for you in their kitchen?

ok.

[Snoutport]

59. yes.

And Portland has 7 school districts, some of them funded better than others, some have federal grants, some do not and some are on an awesome farm-to-school program.

I am doing my best by: supplementing, and writing a grant to put in a garden area so we can grow vegetables, it was pretty much approved today so next year we can grow some stuff ourself.

I'm not a lazy-ass sitting around--believe me, I'm busting my chops to change things!

[DainBramaged]

65. (sigh) no my friend, but the author TEACHES in the school system

so I have to take his word for it.

[Snoutport]

66. Merci

Appreciate the support :0)

[CreekDog]

44. it's an extraordinary claim

if it's true, then convincing me is the last priority one should have.

[REP]

48. I posted what was served in Portland schools today - no Corn Nuts, no fruit leather ...

In fact, I posted what was served all year! Is your school a private school?

[Snoutport]

51. No

but we are a small school with no kitchen so we get sack lunches from another school. Other schools have full service.

Here is a picture of the food.

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[Snoutport]

49. A PHOTO OF TODAY'S FOOD on the DATED PAPER BAG

That's the best I can do for you.

[REP]

50. I can to do that, too.

You're allowed to take photos of your special needs students?

[Snoutport]

53. No, I took a picture of the food I was sent

[CreekDog]

60. what should the district do about this situation? should they change things wholesale?

i mean, is it some sort of systemic problem?

what could fix it?

[Snoutport]

68. I hope not

I'm hoping we are the only ones in the situation and that it can be fixed. The nutritionist asked me to look for healthy options in the price range so it might be that simple. I did a previous post a few months ago about the sodium in the lunches...128% of the daily amount in just their breakast and lunch. They now use cheese with half the sodium. It is a start.

[Phentex]

71. and you took it home, right?...

cause I KNOW you weren't posting from school after you found out they know who you are.

[Snoutport]

74. I take a picture of the food every day-

so I have a case in case they fire me for complaining about the food.

I do not post from work, I've never even signed in to DU from work. But I can take a picture and chart the nutritional value of food...it is part of our nutrition class.

[geckosfeet]

31. High carb diets (typcial american diet) - major cause of obesity and type 2 diabetes.

When are they going to revise the food pyramid?

[REP]

32. Portland schools served a chicken biscuit sandwich for breakfast; bean or beef burritos for lunch

http://www.pps.k12.or.us/files/nutrition/breakfast.pdf
http://www.pps.k12.or.us/files/nutrition/May_2011.pdf

All menus:

http://www.pps.k12.or.us/departments/nutrition/3983.htm

Maybe I just didn't see the meals you mentioned...?

[CreekDog]

45. they must pick up multi packs of corn nuts at Costco for the special kids

I'm having trouble coming up with another explanation.

[Snoutport]

55. sisco, they deliver it.

[DainBramaged]

77. They probably think crisco....

My bud has two certificates from Sysco, cooking sanitation and food sanitation. They have a cool school.

http://kc.sysco.com/aboutus/diversity/industry_connection.html

[DainBramaged]

75. I am very disturbed that you will not accept the writings of this DU member about an experience they

are living. It bothers me that you basically doubted everything snoutport has stated, and are trying to force them to expose more about themselves than is necessary.


Sometimes you have to accept what others do here as truth even though you yourself cannot physically verify the facts presented.

[CreekDog]

82. Do you not understand how serious the poster's allegation towards Portland-area schools is?

there are a whole bunch of issues that are very serious.

however, a number of us have noted legitimate problems with the story (actually a long, story arc about a Portland area public school) that features anecdote after anecdote that appear to be against the stated policies of the school districts in question.

further, a number of us have noted that the stories suggest special education is being done in a way that seems highly unusual in the US in 2011, not to mention Portland.

the upshot of all this is that the stories paint a damning picture of a lot of staff and officials --provided the stories are true and fair.

so what you should understand is that people are being maligned by the stories --if the stories are not supportable, then people are being maligned unfairly.

if you think it's our duty as DUers to give the benefit of the doubt in this case, that's wrong.

---------------

to the larger point, personal stories about struggles with weight, smoking, pain, traveling should not be held up to the same level of scrutiny --if this story was of that nature, you would have a point. but not here.

[DainBramaged]

86. Then you need to get the so-called proof you demand to refute it

Way too many people here shoot the shit out of anyone who tries to tell PERSONAL FUCKING EXPERIENCES and berate them into silence.


Get your proof to refute the story or apologize for hassling the poster.

[Name removed]

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[Snoutport]

90. I'm OK with debate!

Just prefer it to be cordial.

[NYC_SKP]

37. Here's what might be a helpful link:

If not for you (you're pretty well-informed), then for others:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/12/13/president-first-lady-child-nutrition-bill-basic-nutrition-they-need-learn-and-grow-a

:hi:

[REP]

38. Here's a good one

http://www.pps.k12.or.us/departments/nutrition/3983.htm

[Snoutport]

56. I THINK THE PICTURE OF THE FOOD SAYS ENOUGH

Dude, I get it, you don't think I'm telling the truth. Fine. You must be right...no district ever scrimps on food to save money.
A PICTURE OF TODAY'S FOOD:

[REP]

63. I can put together that same photo; claim anything I want about it

Weak sauce, Madame; weak sauce indeed.

[Snoutport]

67. Whatever... why would I lie? I have posted my story, with a photo

of the food I discussed. I can't do better than that. So, shoo, go pester someone else. Other people might not mind being called a liar, but I do.

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[Snoutport]

73. Then stop reading and go read something you like

And, while I am at it, piss on your own leg. I have a problem I am sharing and trying to deal with. You have your own motives. Mine is making a problem public and risking getting in trouble for it. I met with all the teachers in my school, I met with the cafeteria, I met with my supervisor over it and I met with the head of nutrition for the district. I provided a picture of the meal.

You did nothing but call me a liar.

Go bother someone else

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[DainBramaged]

85. Is that some kind of threat?

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[Snoutport]

88. thanks man!

[kick-ass-bob]

78. Would you like his name, address and phone number

as well as the diabetic child's one as well? Coupled with his supervisor's? Make and model of the camera?

Good god, chill the fuck out.

[CreekDog]

83. no i wouldn't, but it might be nice to know what school is (apparently) doing this:

putting a large group of special needs kids (autistic and in foster care) in a building that seems to be separate from other schools and other policies in that school system.

and nobody here should be criticized for questioning this story (which has its problems) while keeping in mind what was said about this school in previous stories.

[Snoutport]

89. :0) Thanks!

[marions ghost]

80. Thanks for the picture

Says it all....candy bars for lunch.

Once I was in a Cracker Barrel in the position of being hungry. Unfortunately. I knew this was not going to be a good experience when I asked the waitress what the "Vegetable of the Day" was...and she said, "rice." (true story!)

Kids growing up on the average American junk food diet can't even recognize healthy food.

Thank you for trying to educate them.

[BillyJack]

58. Here are some links to Portland, OR Public School's Nutrition Services

From what you are saying it doesn't sound like they are in keeping with their own standards that they have set. But check for yourself, of course, since you see what the kids are actually getting at your school.

Home Page:
http://www.pps.k12.or.us/departments/nutrition/index.htm

Here's the Breakfast Menu: (looks yucky to me)
http://www.pps.k12.or.us/files/nutrition/breakfast.pdf

The first four links on this page are pretty interesting:
http://www.pps.k12.or.us/departments/nutrition/3986.htm

The following is from the second link on the above mentioned page. It says in part:

<snip>
Elementary and Middle Schools
School Meals

REQUIRED
•Available to all students
•Meals meet US Dietary Guidelines
•Unlimited fresh fruit and vegetables offered with lunch
•No a la carte foods sold EXCEPT water, 100% juice and milk

RECOMMENDED
•Vegetarian option offered daily
•Locally grown and less processed foods preferred
</snip>

If you go to the US Dietary Guidelines, and look under Carbohydrates & also under "Supplemental Information" 'Resource 1: Children’s Dietary Intake' at the bottom of the following page, the recommendations are surprising (to me)....seems like ultimately a pretty 'low-bar' is set there - definitely a lot of blah, blah, we-don't-know, blah, blah in there :shrug:
http://www.cnpp.usda.gov/dgas2010-dgacreport.htm

Snoutport, I'm just wondering if some of that REQUIRED •Unlimited fresh fruit and vegetables offered with lunch can figure out a way to make it into a fruit/vegetable bowl that you can offer at the next breakfast? Perhaps you are doing this already. Or maybe your kids all go 'vegetarian' at school if that'll get them a better meal? ;-)

Not to make excuses for the school districts, but I deal with one component of several school district's meal program around the country and they, as well as a lot of other institutions are under huge pressures right now - from all different directions. It's unbelievable the different 'forces' that Food Service Directors (FSD) have to balance and try to keep happy - I hear it all day long from the ones who care. However, there ARE some FSDs who really don't care AT ALL what kind of junk the people at their institution eat. Diplomacy is key to getting things improved for your kids, especially if the FSD in Portland really cares, but I'm sure you know that. I hope that you find some of this searching around helpful to your efforts. Best of Luck!

[Snoutport]

61. THey might go for the veggie/fruit thing! That is awesome!

We get our lunches in bags since our school doesn't have a kitchen...so we don't have any hot food or any buffet style eating. Just whatever they have to stick in a bag.

They can't do things that are peeled and served but the fruit bowl might work--(we keep a bowl of fruit in my room and kids from other rooms come in and eat it...would be nice to get that funded for everyone) hmmmmmm.....

[spanone]

62. k&r...

the human condition is pretty damned appalling. so it goes

[muriel_volestrangler]

70. Can someone translate from American fashionable shorthand to normal food measurements?

This breakfast had '75 carbs'. A child's breakfast should have '30 carbs', a nurse said. What is this, Calories from carbohydrates? Grams of carbohydrate (has the US suddenly go metric, after all)? Something to do with a glycemic index value?

[Obamanaut]

72. I'll rec again because it's back in GD, even though the new rec doesn't count. nt

[marions ghost]

79. Reminds me of Chef Jamie Oliver on American food

Jamie Oliver (British--The Naked Chef) did a documentary on the efforts to bring nutritional change to the city designated the most unhealthy in America--Huntington, WV. It was called "Eat Your Peas."

He found as you did that school lunches are increasingly damaging to health.

"As Oliver got to know the residents of Huntington, he realized he faced a formidable information and education barrier. One class of first graders could not identify a tomato. (They insisted it was a potato.) Others, including many adults, did not know how to use a knife or fork. After years of fast food like hamburgers and pizza, they didn’t have to. Nor did the school cafeteria provide knives or forks; the menu didn’t require them."

Article at:

http://m.strategy-business.com/article/11205#authors

After all the efforts to change their tastes that Oliver's team undertook, the students still preferred McNuggets...:-(

[BillyJack]

81. Thanks for posting that article! I read the whole thing - it's fascinating

However, Marion's Ghost, your stated conclusion in the final sentence of your post that "After all the efforts to change their tastes that Oliver's team undertook, the students still preferred McNuggets..." IS WRONG.

Quite the contrary, per the article, it was VERY MUCH A SUCCESS:

<snip>
Formal and Informal Change
After several months in Huntington, Jamie Oliver managed to catalyze change among many groups of people — at the elementary school, the high school, and in the community at large. Jamie’s Kitchen is still operating; according to its website, it is funded by four local organizations, including a clinic and a not-for-profit hospital. There were other efforts in place to change attitudes about food, but Oliver’s energetic outreach brought many more people to embrace the idea that eating healthy gets easier over time and feels better.

<snip>
You are likely to encounter resistance at first, as Oliver did, if you approach changing your organization’s culture in a heavy-handed, top-down way. But when you approach culture more thoughtfully, taking a holistic view of how the organization works in practice, you can make a real difference, even in parts of the culture that seemed intractable before.

Perhaps the most powerful aspect of culture change is the way goals expand after an early success. As Steve Willis, pastor of the city’s First Baptist Church, said to Oliver, “This isn’t going to change lives. This is going to save lives.” He meant literally that people would live longer, but also that the whole city would see its capabilities broaden. Of course, there are still overweight people in Huntington, W. Va., and if the community overcomes one challenge, there will be many more to follow (such as rebuilding the economy).]/i]
<end snip>

As you can see from the following articles, Jamie's Kitchen is still going strong, although it appears it is now a part of Ebenezer Medical Outreach:

http://www.emohealth.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=61&Itemid=73

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10077/1043535-34.stm

Also, if you take a look at the school's breakfast & lunch menus for the month of May 2011, I think they look pretty darn good & healthy - certainly NOT McNuggets and Pizza! I'm going to post the links, but I am also going to post the lunch menu (b/c June 2 is their last day of school and the menu will probably be 'gone' soon). Sorry I don't know how to post it in the calendar format like on their webpage.

http://boe.cabe.k12.wv.us/schoolshomepage.php?sid=22

http://boe.cabe.k12.wv.us/cnp/Current%20Breakfastmnu.htm

http://boe.cabe.k12.wv.us/cnp/Current%20Elementary%20Middle%20Lunchmnu.htm


ELEMENTARY MAY 2011

Monday
Tuesday
Wednesday
Thursday
Friday

2

STEAK & GRAVY
MASHED POTATOES
GREEN BEANS W GARLIC
APPLESAUCE
HOT ROLL-WHEAT
MILK - Variety

View Nutrients
3

CHICKEN AND NOODLES
CREAMY COLE SLAW
BROCCOLI, STEAMED PARMESAN
PEACHES
CORNBREAD
MILK - Variety

View Nutrients
4

BEEFY NACHOS
REFRIED BEANS
CORN
ORANGES,FRESH
MILK - Variety

View Nutrients
5

CHILI CON CARNE W/ BEANS
CORNBREAD
QUICK BAKED POTATOES
APPLESAUCE
YOGURT - 4 oz
MILK - Variety

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6

ROTISSERIE CHICKEN
POTATOES, ROASTED RED
CALIFORNIA BLEND VEGETABLES
KIWI
BREAD STICK, WW
MILK - Variety

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9

CHICKEN FAJITAS
Lettuce & Tomato
Sour Cream
RICE,Cooked Brown
CARROTS HONEY COINS
STRAWBERRIES 'N BANANAS
MILK - Variety

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10

PIZZA, CHEESE
CUCUMBER SLICES
RANCH DRESSING DIP
CALIFORNIA BLEND VEGETABLES
FRUIT COCKTAIL
MILK - Variety

View Nutrients
11

BEEF VEGETABLE SOUP
CRACKERS, SALTINE(4)
TOASTED CHEESE SANDWICH (WW)
FRESH APPLE WEDGES 1/2c
JUICE BAR
MILK - Variety

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12

CHICKEN NUGGETS
MASHED POTATOES
BAKED BEANS
FRESH PEAR
HOT ROLL-WHEAT
MILK - Variety

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13

LASAGNA WITH GROUND BEEF
PEAS & CARROTS
GRAPES,Fresh
BREAD STICK, WW
FRUIT SHERBET: 4 fl.oz.
MILK - Variety

View Nutrients

16

SUB, HAM/AM CHZ
Lettuce & Tomato
BROCCOLI, STEAMED PARMESAN
ORANGES,FRESH
CHOCOLATE PUDDING W/WHIP CREAM
MILK - Variety

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17

CHICKEN AND CHEESE QUESADILLA
Sour Cream
REFRIED BEANS
CORN
KIWI
FRUIT SHERBET: 4 fl.oz.
MILK - Variety

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18

MACARONI AND CHEESE
GREEN BEANS W GARLIC
PEACHES
CORNBREAD
YOGURT - 4 oz
MILK - Variety

View Nutrients
19

GRILLED CHICKEN/CHEES ON W.BUN
Lettuce & Tomato
BAKED POTATO
Margarine, cup, indiv.
GRAPES,FRESH
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[marions ghost]

101. I'm glad to see the program is still

going on. And the menus look good although we have no idea about quality. Am assuming it's reasonable. But in the documentary Oliver demonstrated that the kids who had grown up on McNuggets STILL preferred McNuggets over the healthy food. Whether the kids are more used to it by now...maybe. But it would take consistent effort to change their eating habits for life is what I'm saying. My nephew who grew up eating healthy food, went to college and ate junk food along with his friends. Now he struggles with it, is very overweight and can't kick the burgers and pizza habit.

One poster (this year 2011) --on the link you gave says:

"It may be a good thing but he (Oliver) sure isn't popular with the kids! LOLLLLL"

[BillyJack]

108. Please provide a link to the SUPPOSEDLY said comment

I can't find it. Soooooooo, I don't believe that comment really exists. You said:

One poster (this year 2011) --on the link you gave says:
"It may be a good thing but he (Oliver) sure isn't popular with the kids! LOLLLLL"

Where do you see that comment?

Btw, Sorry to hear about your overweight nephew. ;-( . "Change only happens over time/with effort" ~ per the brilliant article that you posted. :hi:

[marions ghost]

109. "Lisa" said it but

sorry, I lost the link. It was just a comment at the bottom of one of the many news articles on the subject. Why would I bother to make it up? :shrug:

OK, here's another article expressing the same things:

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/36099248/ns/today-entertainment/t/kids-jamie-oliver-bag-your-healthy-lunches/

"Children preferred pizza, chicken nuggets and the other school entrees they were used to by a margin of 4-to-1, with nearly eight in 10 "very unhappy" about Oliver's alternatives. Many stopped buying the chef's lunches, which the researchers said may be healthier than what children get at home."

[BillyJack]

111. Why would you "bother" to make it up?

Perhaps b/c PROCESSED FOODS ARE BIG BUSINESS
....and there is a growing/tsunami-like (read: unstoppable) tread toward local/sustainable/we-like-nature :-)

[BillyJack]

112. Very weird..... the DU Program wouldn't allow me to SAY/ADD

Perhaps b/c PROCESSED FOODS ARE BIG BUSINESS here in the United States, for one thing....and you're most likely "highly invested" in one way or another in the Processed 'food' industry, amirite?

....and there is a growing/tsunami-like (read: unstoppable) tread toward local/sustainable/we-like-nature :-)

edit to add: Ohhhhhh.........the money! I can see/feel it now!!! It's outrageous! It's orgasmic! .................

*it's shit*

[marions ghost]

113. I have no idea what you're talking about

:rofl: laughing all over the place about the accusation of me being in the processed food industry. I'm in the healthcare field and am concerned about nutrition, buy from local organic farmers, don't eat any processed foods whatsoever. As in, none. (I once bit into a McNugget and couldn't finish it).

Go Jamie Oliver and whoever else who wants to improve things in schools. I put up the link about Jamie Oliver in West VA as I have relatives in WV. I tried to say that it was not an easy task, and anyway they gave jamie an even harder time in LA:

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2011/02/jamie-oliver-thrown-out-los-angeles.php

You're really imaginative. Thanks for the laugh.

Roll on, Tsunami of Healthful Eating.

[Snoutport]

91. Thank you for sharing!!

The number one response I've gotten when I've asked for more vegetables is: "they just throw them away". And, sadly, many of them do.

[abelenkpe]

92. I'm confused

how is all that pre-processed packaged food cheaper than serving kids black beans, rice, and fresh oranges for lunch? That's what I made for my kids lunches. It was super cheap. Easy to make and nutritional. How about OJ, scrambled eggs and toast for breakfast? Do they not actually cook anything in the cafeteria?

[BillyJack]

95. Some people don't even know how to cook scrambled eggs.....

tis true.

[BillyJack]

96. ...and those people CAN vote (whether they do or not is another question/answer) eom

[CreekDog]

98. This thread just keeps on going...

[Freddie Stubbs]

99. Does anyone remember when kids ate breakfast at home?

[Name removed]

100. Deleted message

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[sudopod]

103. OH SNAP

[Freddie Stubbs]

104. What's Republican about feeding you children breakfast instead of the garbage that is

being served in school?

[NoGOPZone]

107. .

:D

[BellaLuna]

105. I certainly remember kids who go to school hungry

because parents really are too poor to afford the food. Or no parent is at home to prepare a meal for the kids since they're struggling to work to even pay their rent.

If this hasn't happened to you then you're lucky in addition to being in denial about the struggles many people go through.

Personally, feeding a hungry kid is a good thing in my book.

[CreekDog]

110. yes, when a lot of them didn't eat AT ALL

if that's what you'd like to go back to.

[sudopod]

102. Kick. WTF nt

[dana_b]

106. thank you for caring and

having the guts to speak up. I'll bet anything that most parents have no clue as to what their kids are eating. I didn't. All I remembered were the better balanced meals of my school days but things have changed so much (for the worse). Turns out my kid could have gotten the same nutrition from the gas station mini mart as what she got in school. I was clueless.