Poll: Are there certain issues that are out of any presidents control?

[NNN0LHI]

Poll question: Poll: Are there certain issues that are out of any presidents control?

I know all about the three co-equal branches of our government stuff but are there built in limits that go even beyond Congressional authority? No matter who is president? If you think there is, does someone sit the president down after he is sworn in and explain to him exactly the limits of what he can or can't do? And if so who does that? Who could possibly wield that kind of power?

There probably is absolutely no truth in what I am suggesting, but what do you think?

[BeFree]

1. heh

No person gets to be in the final running without being pre-approved.

A president has to follow orders and not color outside the lines in the playbook they are handed.

Who makes up the playbook? Big, serious, old money. Think of them as the Royals without a country.
A kingdom, yes, but no country.
Except for Saudi Arabia, et al. Where they still have real slaves!

[hifiguy]

2. TPTB take any Democrat who is elected

sit them down and explain what they will tolerate and what they will not tolerate. I am sure than the name of John Kennedy is invoked, at least by implication, as an example of what happens when you take on the MIC or the other PTB. That is the only thing that can explain the gutlessness of every Democratic president since LBJ.

And LBJ struck his own deal - he got the Great Society in return for giving TPTB/MIC the Vietnam war.

[Ozymanithrax]

3. The only rules that really matter are these:

what a man can do and what a man can't do.
-- Jack Sparrow

We the people, the Supreme Court and the Congress consists of men (and women) who will work to protect our own power and place more of what a president can do into the the what a president can't do column.

[OHdem10]

4. The President always holds the power of the VETO.

It depends upon how committed a President or
his party is committed to a particular issue.

There appears to be a built in practice which
gives the edge to DLC Conservative Democratic
Position.

As I remember, the last Democratic Presidents
willing to buck the system stopped with President
Johnson and Republican Presidents Eisenhour and
Nixon. Oh yes, GWB was willing to plow ahead and
push his Right wing policies totally ignoring
cries from the Public.

[damntexdem]

5. Else: there are limits but they are ignored.

More by Repukes than by Dems, but ignored by both.

[WingDinger]

6. Jimmy Carter was crestfallen, when he recieved his leash.

[msongs]

7. attempting, speaking out, and making efforts are all within a president's control nt

[PATRICK]

8. Unknown how it works

but presidents do get read the riot act and display it openly when they are careless, such as Nixon getting schooled by Hoover when he brought him into the WH in front of the cameras. It is secret and particular so who knows. God help us when a progressive Senate Committee gets a secret briefing then changes course, looking scared, the Intel people looking smug and righteous. Sometimes like with the sudden ascension of TR, the pressure is applied too little too late and with immense blowback. Nice guys with reasonable agendas must get floored by the intimidation. Obama's track record in following the lead of the briefings in the Senate is an indicator but who knows if it is about the economy, the terrorist scare or even the hopeless climate change issue or the plain political barriers to success, getting sh*t done creating a momentum to get what you really want or need.

Considering how roughshod the presidents run over obstacle, legal or popular- they must be unlikely to publicly admit defeat or powerlessness in the face of democracy mythbusting corporate overlordship. After all life and death issues- ours- ARE coming second to a lot things no one in their right mind would vote for.