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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:47 PM Original message |
DailyKos: "A Non-Hysterical Progressive Analysis of so called Social Security Cuts on the Table" |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
1. Naturally, anything NOT hysterical and based on bullshit is being ignored today. nt |
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LiberalAndProud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
15. Sorry, I was away reading the article so I could understand your position. |
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dennis4868 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
18. Well we are at DU.... |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
2. I don't give a fuck about the size of the cut -- it's the fact of a cut. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:26 PM Response to Reply #2 |
31. 14 cents is time to get hysterical? Maybe if you're a Rethug, |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 07:29 AM Response to Reply #2 |
52. Not exactly rational n/t |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
3. K&R despite the 0. |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
4. Theres a problem with that analysis |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:00 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Bingo! |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
5. It's like a breath of fresh non-hysterical air |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
6. More condescension towards the people by |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:55 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Hysterical is, traditionally, the word used to describe baseless lunacy. |
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dennis4868 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:09 PM Response to Reply #7 |
19. Train has left the DU station... |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 07:27 AM Response to Reply #19 |
51. +1...nt |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:12 PM Response to Reply #7 |
21. When the wealthy got a monstrous tax cut, I and a lot of other poor people got a tax increase.. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:23 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. So because something expired and wasn't replaced, you think Obama is Scrooge? |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:33 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. The tax cut for the wealthy was set to expire... |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:43 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. What poor people got was $600 billion dollars. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:55 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Eh, the payroll tax holiday is all about eventually destroying SS.. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 05:30 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. So, if Obama does something to benefit working people, it's for evil reasons |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 05:43 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. I don't know the reasons, I just know the effects.. |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:55 PM Response to Reply #7 |
37. "Hysterical" is pretending that a sovereign currency government can go broke... |
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orwell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 07:15 PM Response to Reply #37 |
48. We have a winner... |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 04:54 AM Response to Reply #7 |
49. I remember similar comments about DUers |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:01 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. I'll take a 14 cents cut if we can get the republicans to give up the Bush tax cuts for the Wealthy |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
8. K&R |
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Ineeda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
10. We're seeing a s*itload of over-the-top hysteria here on DU ... |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
12. When the President, HIMSELF, said the numbers aren't finalized, how can you say it? |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:09 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. It's a shame you didn't bother to read/comment on the OP & the linked diary. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
13. That was really interesting. |
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denverbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
14. $.14 x 12 x 32 million recipients is only about $57 million per year. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:06 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Not even a rounding error in SS expenditures.. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:17 PM Response to Reply #14 |
24. Basically, a "chained" CPI is thought to more accurately reflect people's behavior. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
17. TPM has a good analysis of this. Specifically, the cut will be compounded so that |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:12 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. It's a shame you didn't bother posting the rebuttals to this. It's not a cut. It's a tiny |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 06:33 PM Response to Reply #22 |
46. That's a shell game. You can call it something else, but it's still |
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LiberalAndProud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
23. So let's talk. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:20 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. You seem to have mistaken me for the author of the piece, which I am not. |
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LiberalAndProud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:26 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. You are correct. I made that mistake. |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
25. Sorry spectral dude |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:22 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Good catch... |
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Cali_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:24 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Yup...CPI doesn't even take into consideration food and energy costs |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 05:02 PM Response to Reply #29 |
40. Social Security COLAs are tied to CPI-W which has always included... |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:28 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. Author could be a Will Marshall "progressive" - |
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LiberalAndProud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:30 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. So the neoliberals are calling themselves progressive now, huh? |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 06:12 PM Response to Reply #33 |
44. "So the neoliberals are calling themselves progressive now, huh?" |
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Buns_of_Fire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
36. But I was promised hysteria, dammit, and I WANT HYSTERIA! |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
39. The message is not trivial. |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 06:36 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. The message is also that Social Security is the debt generator. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
43. 14 cents of what increase? |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
45. From a person who likes to write about economics - their |
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Shandris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 07:24 AM Response to Original message |
50. Ummm... |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
53. Stop with the non-hysterical analysis. We need more CAPS and EXCLAMATION POINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
54. Debunked - it's $4/month, not 14 cents - see the update, and here |
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ozone_man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 08:58 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Thanks for correction. |
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